From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #371 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, December 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 371 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OFFTOPIC-Shinkansen [John Roberts ] [idealcopy] OT - A farewell from a literary giant [Rick Hindman ] Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream [PaulR] Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream [Paul] Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream [MarkB] [idealcopy] Call that Baby 'Dome'/7" ["Cambra, Robert" ] [idealcopy] OCSID - OPENING SWEEP (2) [kevin eden ] RE: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream ["gil] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:30:37 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OFFTOPIC-Shinkansen Sarah Records!!!????????? Good grief. Bring back ELO. Bloody shoegazer. 8-) - --- Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk wrote: > Just wondered if anyone was going to the Shinkansen > (formerly Sarah > Records) Christmas Party tonight at The Spitz. 3 > great bands for > #7.50!!!!!!! > > Chris. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 03:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > Hmmm...I never would have thought of "Advantage in > Height" as > "talismanic": not a bad song, but hardly central to > my impression of Wire, > even Wire Mk. II. I think "Ambitious" might be a > good contender to > represent the early part of Mk. II (obviously > "Drill" must be there...) > Nah, you want a bit of 'Advantage in Height' in there. I must admit to being really pleased that they're doing Madman's Honey. Maybe Ahead could get an airing or did they overplay that last time out? Must also confess to partic liking Point of Collapse and Still Shows off of Ideal Copy. Other Mk II highlights for me? I wish they'd do Come Back in Two Halves, German Shephards and The Offer whilst I'm barking on. Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:59:18 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > Nah, you want a bit of 'Advantage in Height' in there. > I must admit to being really pleased that they're > doing Madman's Honey. Maybe Ahead could get an airing > or did they overplay that last time out? Must also > confess to partic liking Point of Collapse and Still > Shows off of Ideal Copy. I basically prefer them to go for the all new material approach. As much as I enjoyed seeing the old songs live, I'd even prefer any new song to Drill, which is one of my favourites and wasn't included at the RFH gig, the only Wire gig I've been too (yet, I hope). giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:08:17 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream Jeff, It's just one of the songs they revived that works really, really well under the current format. they're playing generally faster and harder than in the 80s, and AiH works well stripped down and played with venom. Funny that only songs from Snakedrill have survived from that era. Mark << Hmmm...I never would have thought of "Advantage in Height" as "talismanic": not a bad song, but hardly central to my impression of Wire, even Wire Mk. II. I think "Ambitious" might be a good contender to represent the early part of Mk. II (obviously "Drill" must be there...) >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:43:01 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream John, Madman's Honey got an airing at the RFH but hasn't been seen since. The '80s 'pop' stuff doesn't seem to fit the current style (Offer, Ahead etc), so I'd doubt if you'll see them doing it. German Shepherds would fit well though, and so would Comeback in two halves. Personally I've always loved the way Wire concentrated on new material, and I hope they'll go that way - with the occasional "crowd pleaser" from the vaults. And I'd like to see more of the D&E period stuff revived - lots of unfinished masterpieces there to rework - like Ally in Exile. Mark << Nah, you want a bit of 'Advantage in Height' in there. I must admit to being really pleased that they're doing Madman's Honey. Maybe Ahead could get an airing or did they overplay that last time out? Must also confess to partic liking Point of Collapse and Still Shows off of Ideal Copy. Other Mk II highlights for me? I wish they'd do Come Back in Two Halves, German Shephards and The Offer whilst I'm barking on. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:06:34 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > Personally I've always loved the way Wire concentrated on new > material, and I > hope they'll go that way - with the occasional "crowd pleaser" from the > vaults. And I'd like to see more of the D&E period stuff revived > - lots of > unfinished masterpieces there to rework - like Ally in Exile. I'd have liked that as well, but I think the new stuff should be completely new. What I hope is that Wire would get to the same level of creativity that they had at that period. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:58:40 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A stupid (indirect) inquiry >And music is full of compositions embedding the name B-A-C-H ("H" >is B-flat in German notation). Also there was a composition on one of the John Cage tribute albums that employed 16 basses, 4 of them playing the note C, 4 - A, 4 - G and 4 - E) Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:05:23 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream Giluz, I don't think they will, simply because they live in three different countries! Also Colin, Bruce and Graham are all running solo projects alongside Wire which will syphon off a lot of their creativity. I'm just amazed they're still here, and as good as they were last Friday..... Mark << I'd have liked that as well, but I think the new stuff should be completely new. What I hope is that Wire would get to the same level of creativity that they had at that period. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 07:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > Madman's Honey got an airing at the RFH but hasn't > been seen since. The '80s > 'pop' stuff doesn't seem to fit the current style > (Offer, Ahead etc), so I'd > doubt if you'll see them doing it. German Shepherds > would fit well though, > and so would Comeback in two halves. > The thing for me at Nottm and RFH was that the 80s pop stuff fitted in the set in much the same way as my other faves fitted into their respective albums. I'm thinking The 15th, Outdoor Miner, Marooned etc. I can't see Ambitious fitting in with the new set at all. Partic if you bear in mind RG's objection to technology. Which will probably mean that they'll play it at the next gig... > Personally I've always loved the way Wire > concentrated on new material, and I > hope they'll go that way - with the occasional > "crowd pleaser" from the > vaults. Yes, I saw em several times in the 80s and whilst they never played old material and frequently reworked just released material and were excellent for it, you'd always go home wondering whether you were right to wish that they'd slipped one in. Much like the discussions on this list when they did actually play some "crowd pleasers" recently. What's done is what's done now I suppose so the should they or shouldn't they do the oldies row is redundant. The sooner they get a set whereby they can choose whether or not to do old material the happier we'd all be. The few new songs that I've heard have had my foot tapping. And I'd like to see more of the D&E period > stuff revived - lots of > unfinished masterpieces there to rework - like Ally > in Exile. You see, this is why this list can never cohere 8-) D&E very rarely gets near my turntable (and yes - for the record - I have a vinyl copy). John Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:07:15 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > Giluz, > > I don't think they will, simply because they live in three different > countries! Also Colin, Bruce and Graham are all running solo projects > alongside Wire which will syphon off a lot of their creativity. I'm just > amazed they're still here, and as good as they were last Friday..... > > Mark > > << I'd have liked that as well, but I think the new stuff should > be completely > new. What I hope is that Wire would get to the same level of > creativity that > they had at that period. >> ============================================ I didn't mean that it'd be as intense as it was back then, but Wire didn't reform just to play old favourites. In less than a year we had 2 new songs plus a new 7" (not counting the other pf releases) plus the tour - that's not too bad for a band whose members don't live in the same country and have their own solo projects as well. So I'm not really concerned about the time it's gonna take them to do anything. I just want them to do it. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:03:12 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream John, << The thing for me at Nottm and RFH was that the 80s pop stuff fitted in the set in much the same way as my other faves fitted into their respective albums. I'm thinking The 15th, Outdoor Miner, Marooned etc.<< I'm a great fan of 'PopWire' too - but generally I think it's a trick they pull off in the studio rather than live - listen to old bootlegs and you see the same thing. Right now I'm happy to go with their (obvious) conclusion that the pop stuff is not right for their current style of playing. Quite how much attention they pay to the current music scene is unclear, but against a backdrop of "bed-wetting" music the decison to play VERY hard is a sound one. >> I can't see Ambitious fitting in with the new set at all. << Ambitious, like Ahead, is somewhat of its time. Part of Wire's "New Order" period. Nothing worng with that, but again, not in line with the Y2K model. >>Partic if you bear in mind RG's objection to technology. Which will probably mean that they'll play it at the next gig... >> RG's not against technology - he's against drum machines. I doubt if he'd have a problem if Colin, Graham and Bruce all decided to play keyboards - so long as whatever song they played had real drums. On the opening number at Edinburgh (which had no drums) Robert appeared to be operating some form of mixing unit from his drum stool....maybe everyone is becoming more relaxed about being Wire now... >>The sooner they get a set whereby they can choose whether or not to do old material the happier we'd all be. The few new songs that I've heard have had my foot tapping.<< They're almost there now. Another three or four new songs and the new will outnumber the old. >>You see, this is why this list can never cohere 8-) D&E very rarely gets near my turntable (and yes - for the record - I have a vinyl copy).<< It's not so much D&E itself as the fact that there was more than an album's worth of stuff just left hanging - unfinished masterpieces in a raw form. OK, Colin used up a lot of them on Not To, and one or two ended up on Dome albums, but the Wire versions would have been different. I wish they'd gone into the studio on March 1 1980 and recorded the follow-up to 154. the non-existence of that album - when you know the songs it could/should/would have included is a tragedy - The Beach Boys' Smile album of the post-punk era..... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:16:05 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Map Ref G7 in the Metropolis of Your Dream 7.12 1930 The fun started at the Contact Theatre in Manchester. Wire biographer Kevin Eden invited me out to see Scanner and when a couple of Robin Rimbaud's videos showed dashboard views of roads being eaten up, it was a sign. It was the road to Edinburgh and I had to be on it! After 3 beers it seemed like a good idea to hop on an overnight coach to Edinburgh and doze the journey away. Woke up in Glasgow with a pain in my chest and a tongue swollen from mouth breathing and began to wish I'd waited until morning, but when the first grey light of Scotch dawn crept in to the sound of 'Men 2nd' I knew I was entering the Wirezone and began to hum. Women and children first! 8.12 0930 A dome of grey fog hung over Edinburgh. Spent the day wandering around looking and listening. Edinburgh is easily the most visually spectacular city in the UK, and seems far more continental than any English towns. London is a grimy rip off shit hole in comparison. The castle towers above, and the trains run on low down cutaway tracks. Noises reverberate across the nearly deserted sunken gardens. Needless to say, there was a lot of drilling going on. The drills constantly altered the pitch of their tune, like a choir heralding an immanent arrival. The theme from 'The Onedin Line' swelled over from the main drag, evaporating into train chug and pigeon squawk. Two fat squirrels coveted my hot potato. A happy black dog bounced past. Checked E-mail at the Tourist Information Centre and found out that Wire manager Paul Smith had put me on the guestlist and kindly invited me along to meet up with the Wire entourage! In the northern Avalanche branch they were playing the 'Ideal Copy' CD. I asked them to turn it up for 'Over Theirs' and they were nice enough to oblige. I picked up a secondhand copy of These Immortal Souls' second album, along with a couple of items that sold out too quickly in Manchester: the elph (aka Coil doing minimal electronica droning not a thousand from Ocsid) 20 to 2000 EP on Raster Noton and the Tokyo double 7" on Plastic Cowboy featuring Merzbow, Ruins, Gaji and Ex-Girl. All of these turned out to be well worth getting! The southern branch of Avalanche is just round the corner from the Queens Hall, where Wire were playing. Perhaps it wasn't altogether surprising that they were also playing a Wire CD, since the gig had been organised as Avalanche's Xmas party. Anyway, the 'On Returning' compilation proved to be far too good an excuse to waste time sound browsing and suddenly it was 4pm and Wire were due to arrive. I bumped into Susan Stenger on Clerk Street and got the lowdown on Wire activity. At the hall I chatted with Bruce and Colin whilst they strung and tuned guitars. Colin introduced me to Malka, and she took my photo for part of her 'Ideal Copy' art project. Then I retired to the pews to hear the soundcheck. Robert was surveying the stage like a farmer looking over his acres. The soundcheck began with Bruce and Robert checking their electronics out and things were beginning to sound intriguing - Robert seemed to have more observable active input into the track than Bruce or Graham, whose synth was looping and phasing, sounding like a variation on his 'pre>He' material. Robert's drum check was quick. painless and professional. Colin sang up to 9 but no feeding rabbits appeared. Graham did some inimitable Lewis vocal exercises and asked the monitor mixer his name. He played a chunky bass riff which reminded me of 'Take It' but it wasn't to be. Colin strummed the riffs to 'Heartbeat' and 'He Knows'. Bruce fired off a little open tuned thunder. They checked that all the parts of the new drone instrumental which was to open the set were rumbling in the right places, then tore through 'Ally in Exile' and a short new song called 'Germ Ship'. What a treat! It continues: Part 2 "On Returning to Map Ref G7: Zooming in on the Germ Ship" will follow soon Keep on lockin' Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:27:40 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] Odds and Ends Thank you guys for all of the Edinburgh info! It makes it more enticing to imagine what the next stage will be (no pun intended!). > I'm a great fan of 'PopWire' too - but generally I > think it's a trick they > pull off in the studio rather than live - listen to > old bootlegs > > Ambitious, like Ahead, is somewhat of its time. Part > of Wire's "New Order" > period. Nothing worng with that, but again, not in > line with the Y2K model. I've been following the pop/post/punk notes lately and wanted to mention that one of the items that has always endeared Wire to me is their ability to restyle familiar songs. I, for one, think that 'Ahead' would be a great candidate for a high-velocity upgrade! I may be a bit biased as it is my favorite number in IC! I also wanted to ask about an influence question I have been mulling over... I recently was able to find 'A-Z' and 'It Seems' and am struck by how much some of Colin's solo work sounds like the Residents! I was also recently listening to IBTABA and Manscape and get kind of a similar feeling. I am not sure if it is in rhythms or perhaps similar equipment used, but a songs like 'Morning Bell', 'Troisieme' or 'Sixth Sense' really get me that way.... (tosses a pebble into the water...) Stay wired all! Rick Hindman ===== - ----------------------------------------------------------- "Learn to handle hot things, keep your knives sharp, and above all, have a good time. - -Julia Child - ----------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:43:16 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] OT - A farewell from a literary giant Way off topic, but I want to share this with everyone I know! RJH A farewell from a literary giant Gabriel Garcia Marquez has retired from public life due to health reasons: cancer of the lymph nodes. It seems that it is getting worse. He has sent this farewell letter to his friends, which has been translated and posted on the Internet. Please read and forward to any who might enjoy it. This is possibly, sadly, one of the last gifts to humanity from a true master. ___________________________________________________________________________ If for an instant God were to forget that I am rag doll and gifted me with a piece of life, possibly I wouldn't say all that I think, but rather I would think of all that I say. I would value things, not for their worth but for what they mean. I would sleep little, dream more, understanding that for each minute we close our eyes we lose sixty seconds of light. I would walk when others hold back, I would wake when others sleep. I would listen when others talk, and how I would enjoy a good chocolate ice cream! If God were to give me a piece of life, I would dress simply, throw myself face first into the sun, baring not only my body but also my soul. My God, if I had a heart, I would write my hate on ice, and wait for the sun to show. Over the stars I would paint with a Van Gogh dream a Benedetti poem, and a Serrat song would be the serenade I'd offer to the moon. With my tears I would water roses, to feel the pain of their thorns, and the red kiss of their petals... My god, if I had a piece of life... I wouldn't let a single day pass without telling the people I love that I love them. I would convince each woman and each man that they are my favorites, and I would live in love with love. I would show men how very wrong they are to think that they cease to be in love when they grow old, not knowing that they grow old when they cease to be in love! To a child I shall give wings, but I shall let him learn to fly on his own. I would teach the old that death does not come with old age, but with forgetting. So much have I learned from you, oh men... I have learned that everyone wants to live on the peak of the mountain, without knowing that real happiness is in how it is scaled. I have learned that when a newborn child squeezes for the first time with his tiny fist his father's finger, he has him trapped forever. I have learned that a man has the right to look down on another only when he has to help the other get to his feet. From you I have learned so many things, but in truth they won't be of much use, for when I keep them within this suitcase, unhappily shall I be dying. GABRIEL GARCIA MARQUEZ ------------------------ ____________ Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:20:13 -0500 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Graeme's lowdown wow, behind the scenes...what fun! thanks for giving us the lowdown... kath ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:02:25 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream Hmmm...I never would have thought of "Advantage in Height" as "talismanic": not a bad song, but hardly central to my impression of Wire, even Wire Mk. II. I think "Ambitious" might be a good contender to represent the early part of Mk. II (obviously "Drill" must be there...) ////// to add my thought , i think "advantage" is one of the best tracks of the MK11 era and seems to fit well i nthe current set. CBI2H is a great suggestion too (laid back version?). but no more aheads or eardrum bingos (kidney buzzes?). still wish blessed state had made it from the 3rd day sessions onto a stage somewhere. but maybe that's being picky.p ps i'll tell you what i got at advantage then so you can compare it to graemes shopping list. these were #2-3 each; metal urbain ; paris maquis (always fancied this) god's gift ; discipline (are the other singles any good?) bok bok 7" (karl burns/steve garvey - a curiosity buy) bob n vi ; keep lying i love it (well i'd never seen a copy before) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:05:11 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream I didn't mean that it'd be as intense as it was back then, but Wire didn't reform just to play old favourites. In less than a year we had 2 new songs plus a new 7" (not counting the other pf releases) plus the tour - that's not too bad for a band whose members don't live in the same country and have their own solo projects as well. So I'm not really concerned about the time it's gonna take them to do anything. I just want them to do it. giluz //// hey c'mon , 4 new songs ; art of persistence / he knows / germ ship / zoom. respect where due! p ps ocsid cd arrived today but not played it yet. those these people are pretty efficient...... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:59:04 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream Paul, Advantage was good, as was a shop two doors down from it (the central branch) called Fopp. Mainly new stuff, but all nice price albums were a fiver, which is as cheap as it gets. Bought Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain by strategy for said amount. Also immensely cheap books. Bought the Julian Cope Head On/Reposessed twofer for #3 and the new Creation records one (the dave Cavanagh one, not the Hewitt one) for a fiver. Hardback. Mark << ps i'll tell you what i got at advantage then so you can compare it to graemes shopping list. these were #2-3 each; metal urbain ; paris maquis (always fancied this) god's gift ; discipline (are the other singles any good?) bok bok 7" (karl burns/steve garvey - a curiosity buy) bob n vi ; keep lying i love it (well i'd never seen a copy before) >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:06:25 -0500 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Call that Baby 'Dome'/7" I didn't pipe in the first time, but I'm hoping that Paul's new tyke will be named Dome. Do we get to vote on this? And has anyone checked the samples from new 7" on PinkFlag.com lately? Initially there were short samples of the two songs; now it's loops of the songs, and a window comes up and the pink flag icon dances all around it as the music plays--very funny. A new way to drive your coworkers nuts. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 20:30:56 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Call that Baby 'Dome'/7" Robert, If Paul named the sprog Dome, everyone would assume that it was in honour of our marvellous Millennium Dome, or worse, was conceived there. A very bad idea. Lubert is a far better name ;-) Mark << I didn't pipe in the first time, but I'm hoping that Paul's new tyke will be named Dome. Do we get to vote on this? >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 22:56:15 -0500 From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A stupid (indirect) inquiry Gavin Bryars did a track called "Cage Dead" that moved through the letters as a chord sequence. >From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A stupid (indirect) inquiry >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:58:40 -0500 > >>And music is full of compositions embedding the name B-A-C-H ("H" >>is B-flat in German notation). >Also there was a composition on one of the John Cage tribute albums that >employed 16 basses, 4 of them playing the note C, 4 - A, 4 - G and 4 - E) > >Syarzhuk > >Be healthy, stay wealthy... > >Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:25:19 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: CAGE was Re: [idealcopy] A stupid (indirect) inquiry In a message dated 12/12/0 11:10:45 AM, bamboo7431@hotmail.com writes: >a composition on one of the John Cage tribute albums that >employed 16 basses, 4 of them playing the note C, 4 - A, 4 - G and 4 - >E) never heard that one! description sounds gorgeous! :o) what tribute album is this? off to search the net... - -paul c.d. p.s. so, who was interested in assembling/participating in the exquisite corpse tape? maybe we can get it going with the new millenium. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 00:45:56 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] OCSID - OPENING SWEEP Now in stock: Ocsid - Opening Sweep. 75 minutes recorded live in Munich November 1999. Price: #12 plus P&P. (UK = 60p; Europe = 90p; ROW = #1.20) USA orders should consult with WMO (US) for details. Order now for Xmas and to avoid disappointment. ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:00:38 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] OCSID - OPENING SWEEP (2) Anyone wishing to pre-order their copy by e-mail can do so. It will then be reserved pending payment. Copies of the first Ocsid CD are now running low too. FYI - WMO (UK) still have one copy of H.A.L.O left, it includes the two singles as bonus tracks. This too can be reserved by e-mail. First come first served. ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:24:39 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] An Evening of Fun in the Metropolis of your Dream > //// hey c'mon , 4 new songs ; art of persistence / he knows / > germ ship / > zoom. respect where due! p Didn't intend any disrespect. I was saying that even though Wire's not a 'regular' band as far as activity goes, they still managed to do quite a lot in the last year. I just wish for an all-new material gigs. In the rate things are going, I guess that in a few months that's what'll happen (I hope). giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #371 *******************************