From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #360 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, December 2 2000 Volume 03 : Number 360 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] sustainable harvesting and box-sets [kevin eden ] Re: [idealcopy] Kinda On Topic [Aaron Mandel ] [idealcopy] Boxed Set [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] Kinda On Topic [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) ["Katherine Pouliot" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 03:36:17 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] sustainable harvesting and box-sets Anybody else in the UK see David Attenborough's 'State of the Planet' programme on 29th November BBC-1. Interesting programme on sustainable harvesting of butterflies and also sea horse trading. Check out He Said Omala's first CD. On the subject of a Wire box. The idea was floated some time ago by Reckless in the USA, to include all three studio albums (and singles), Behind The Curtain, live Rockpalast (with CD-ROM) and others. However, (BIG however), Reckless no longer had the rights to EMI material and when they did have the rights originally it appears there was some problems with royalties trickling back to EMI and ultimately Wire. The royalty situation is being looked into, shall we say. Until that is resolved an adequate box set is unlikely to appear. ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:26:38 +0000 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: [idealcopy] Kinda On Topic I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but Action Records (http://www.action-records.co.uk/) have the following: 215166 WIR - FIRST LETTER CD #7.99 202516 WIRE - 154 CD #6.99 239865 WIRE - 154 LP #12.99 6189 WIRE - 85-90 (A LIST) 2XLP #4.99 4059 WIRE - 85-90 (A LIST) CD #11.99 2062 WIRE - CHAIRS MISSING CD #6.99 68724 WIRE - COATINGS CD #11.99 6188 WIRE - IBTABA LP #4.99 223017 WIRE - KIDNEY BINGOS (3" CDS) CDS #3.99 6192 WIRE - MANSCAPE LP #6.99 210859 WIRE - ON RETURNING ( 1977 - 1979) CD #8.99 2060 WIRE - PINK FLAG CD #6.99 239866 WIRE - PINK FLAG LP #12.99 43837 WIRE - SKIN 12 #2.50 53099 WIRE - SNAKEDRILL (12MUTE53) 12 #4.50 4061 WIRE - THE DRILL CD #11.99 248626 WIRE - TWELVE TIMES YOU 7 #2.99 The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 08:37:59 -0600 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OFF TOPIC Global warming @Stockholm Zoo Paul wrote: well i just got back from the middle of sweden myself , and i'm afraid to say its true. no snow , +6 degrees and everyone very pissed off they have no winters any more. didn't see any polar bears but the elks all looked most displeased. p ===================== I'm feel terrible about the lack of snow in Stockholm, but we've got enough of it here in the western suburbs of Chicago. It's not sticking to the streets yet, but it will soon. We've been lucky enough that our 'deadly cold' days have not yet coincided with our 'snow days' but we'll get one of these soon enough. Weather patterns have always intrigued me... Chicago is farther south than London, which would make you think that it would be warmer, but from everything I read, Chicago's winters are MUCH more bitter cold and snowy than London winters. The really sad part, when I put on my parka, I look like the Michelin Man... not too embarrassing! Cheers, Ray Ciscon Remote Office LAN/WAN Support Manager Comark, Inc. In order to provide the best level of support, please contact: The I.S. Support Center at extension 4357 ** Every support call should begin with a call to the I. S. Support Center. ** Carthago delenda est. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 06:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) Hello all I posted this a few days ago: I am pleased to let you know that the hour you created via the MTV2 website (www.mtv2.co.uk) has been selected for forthcoming transmission. It will be shown on Tuesday, December 05, 2000, at 01:00 (UK local time). For those that are interested, here's the playlist. Those of you who get the channel at least have the knowledge that Wire are first. You're probably better off watching the first three tracks and ignoring the rest (although LFO's track is good)!!! Wire -- The Drill Moby -- Go Death in Vegas -- Dirge Depeche Mode -- I feel you Laika -- Uneasy LFO -- We are back Underworld -- Push upstairs REM -- Stand Prodigy -- Outta space Bjork -- Army of me Add n to [x] -- Metal fingers in my body Joy Division -- Atmosphere New Order -- Bizarre love traingle Moby -- Natural blues Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Kinda On Topic On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk wrote: > 6189 WIRE - 85-90 (A LIST) 2XLP #4.99 We must have been over this before, but are any of the tracks on A-List different versions from the ones on albums? a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 10:42:32 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Boxed Set >From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" >Or do you want something like the one someone made for Stooges - >7 CDs of "making Funhouse" - a whole CD of studio outtakes >for each song? I do, yes. Every single take. But what I want and what's going to happen only colide once in a great while. It's not going to happen, and neither, I would guess is a regular box set. Economics and all of that rot. ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 11:57:05 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Kinda On Topic << On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk wrote: > 6189 WIRE - 85-90 (A LIST) 2XLP #4.99 We must have been over this before, but are any of the tracks on A-List different versions from the ones on albums? //// no. i think they use the 12"/album versions of the singles. funnily enough its the 7" versions that are more rarely heard (ahead/silk skin paws/in vivo/illuminated). obvious candidates for the box set..... p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:38:22 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) You're probably better off watching the first three tracks and ignoring the rest (although LFO's track is good)!!! Wire -- The Drill Moby -- Go Death in Vegas -- Dirge Depeche Mode -- I feel you Laika -- Uneasy LFO -- We are back Underworld -- Push upstairs REM -- Stand Prodigy -- Outta space Bjork -- Army of me Add n to [x] -- Metal fingers in my body Joy Division -- Atmosphere New Order -- Bizarre love traingle Moby -- Natural blues Craig. ////// well if any of you havn't seen "the drill" vid , its awesome. i looked at the mtv2 site and sent one in too , you have to choose off a relatively limited selection. for wire you get 3 ; the drill/eardrum/vivo. i was hoping for at least silk skin paws. if they accept mine i'll post it up. given what you have as options i think craigs is pretty good , though i never liked "push upstairs" much. i must go think up a "dream hour" with all the things i'd really like to see.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:59:44 -0500 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) Isn't there another LFO here in the US who is a sucky boy band?? The one you're talking about must be the electronic/techno LFO, right? kath - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire on MTV2 (again) > You're probably better > off watching the first three tracks and ignoring the > rest (although LFO's track is good)!!! > > Wire -- The Drill > Moby -- Go > Death in Vegas -- Dirge > Depeche Mode -- I feel you > Laika -- Uneasy > LFO -- We are back > Underworld -- Push upstairs > REM -- Stand > Prodigy -- Outta space > Bjork -- Army of me > Add n to [x] -- Metal fingers in my body > Joy Division -- Atmosphere > New Order -- Bizarre love traingle > Moby -- Natural blues > > > > Craig. > ////// well if any of you havn't seen "the drill" vid , its awesome. i > looked at the mtv2 site and sent one in too , you have to choose off a > relatively limited selection. for wire you get 3 ; the drill/eardrum/vivo. i > was hoping for at least silk skin paws. if they accept mine i'll post it up. > > given what you have as options i think craigs is pretty good , though i never > liked "push upstairs" much. i must go think up a "dream hour" with all the > things i'd really like to see.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:22:47 -0600 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: [idealcopy] OFF TOPIC - Death in Vegas Wire -- The Drill Moby -- Go Death in Vegas -- Dirge ========================= I don't know what the opinion of the other listmembers are, but I think/thought that Death in Vegas' "The Contino Sessions" was one of the best releases of 2000. The way that 'Dirge' builds slowly into sonic mayhem, and the simple melodic joy of 'Lever Street'... it's a beautiful thing! Cheers, Ray Ciscon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:40:53 -0600 From: george.m.hook@ac.com Subject: [idealcopy] Wire Cult So, just exactly where IS that Wire box set? |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| |While hardcore fans of the Cult have been recently | |overwhelmed with new music thanks to the just released | |Rare Cult: 1984-1995 -- a six-CD, 90-track box set that | |features unreleased tunes, outtakes, remixes, radio | |sessions, demos, and alternate versions -- some lucky | |fans have been blessed even further, as some copies of | |the set come with a seventh disc of remixes. | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:05:04 +0100 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Sad News Got this message yesterday. Robert Rental, composer and Industrial Records artist died of cancer at the age of 48 years. It's very sad . It's not only Industrial records with Thomas Leer - The Bridge He's also well known to Daniel Miller. Brought out once a recording with him on Rough Trade rec. called Live ROUGH-17 and there is one on Mute rec. called Double heart/ On Location Mute 010. quote: No words ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #360 *******************************