From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #356 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, November 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: RE: [idealcopy] List Members unite whether musician or not!!! ["giluz] [idealcopy] 12 times u ["giluz" ] Re: [idealcopy] computer lessons [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] recording project(s) ["dMc" ] Re: [idealcopy] computer lessons ["they.wait" ] [idealcopy] edinburgh [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] edinburgh [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] The Fans Become The Band! [Tim Robinson Subject: RE: RE: [idealcopy] List Members unite whether musician or not!!! > i'm > hoping to get some people who are interested in my recording project, in > particular one person who will do the assembling since my equipment is > falling apart :o( I'd do the assembling for 'your' project, but I don't think I'll be the right person for this. My musical thinking's much more on the same lines as Mark's idea. A project like yours would be too anarchic for me to interpret - I would probably try and force it to be something completely different, which would miss the whole point (but would be still interesting - I'd like to do it that way as long as there's someone else who's going to do it 'properly'). But let's stop discussing it so much and start doing things. I've got a few short samples/loops I can upload to one of my freespace.com folders, or via e-mail, whichever way's convenient. I just have to look them up in my CD backups, so it won't take more than a couple of days. Anyone else already have something? I think by this stage we should just start doing things, instead of assembling everyone, deciding who's gonna do what, how many people are in favour of this idea or that idea, how many are gonna actually participate, etc... Once there's a start things would progress from there. Things like that never happen as you plan them - they just progress as they go along. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:29:24 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: [idealcopy] 12 times u Anyone got it yet? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 07:25:23 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] computer lessons Paul, As I have a hi-fi CD writer I just copy the tape to CD-R, then convert form the CD. Giluz's method will work, though the quality will not be so good. With a Pioneer PDR-509 at less than #200 at Richer these days it's a really worthwhile investment, especially if you have lots of old stuff on tape (as I do!) Mark << > quick question from someone not too up on this game , i suspect i > may not be > alone in this. if you had something on audio cassette and wanted > to convert > it to a digital format , what's the best way? as well as for this music > project , i also have a vague idea of compiling a cd but a lot of > the things > i intend to put on it (he says vaguely) are on tape or vinyl. can someone > point me in the right direction pse.... p > Well - you'd have to plug your tape into your soundcard's audio input and record it to your computer (using even the simplest player with recording abilities would do it). Just note that when you are recording, you'd have to tell your recording application which audio format to use (WAV/AIFF) and which sampling rate and bit rate (a 16 bit / 44.1k sampling rate stereo file is the standard). The only problem you'd have is the noise ratio of the sound card, which could affect the quality of the recording (i.e. add more noise to the original). >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:59:51 -0600 From: "dMc" Subject: [idealcopy] recording project(s) personally i am interested in paul and marks proposals for projects perhaps we should do both? i repeat my willingness to mix/assemble i could accept files digital or analog tho i would prefer not to receive large wav files via email my pc platform is windows (playing with linux but not real steady on that yet) i would most likely do actual mixes on a roland harddisk recorder from that i could burn and mail cd-r's to anyone interrested if i had to chose one or the other proposal, i would probably lean towards paul's original proposal, but i am not unfond of more organized song structures in fact i probably listen to more top40pop than most on this list (due primarily to my choice of spouse) also - i don't know what happened to my original apologetic post (i have been juggling a few email accounts between a few computers, and must have messed something up) but when i read paul's original post i thought it a proposal for a project which was not strictly wire-related or inspired which might have a life of it's own i never intended to alienate or confust listmembers, as i evidently did ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:45:37 +0000 From: "they.wait" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] computer lessons on 25/11/00 5:52 pm, PaulRabjohn@aol.com at PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > quick question from someone not too up on this game , i suspect i may not be > alone in this. if you had something on audio cassette and wanted to convert > it to a digital format , what's the best way? as well as for this music > project , i also have a vague idea of compiling a cd but a lot of the things > i intend to put on it (he says vaguely) are on tape or vinyl. can someone > point me in the right direction pse.... p Buy Toast Deluxe this includes instructions on how to master tape and vinyl it allows you to tart up the recordings and put in your own start points etc its about 50# - I use it all the time - highky recommended. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:03:25 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] edinburgh so come on then ; who's going? if we're gonna meet up somewhere has anybody got any suggestions? i've only been there once in my life so i'm clueless ; i guess somebody here must have some ideas.......p ps the malka project is all in place on the swim website now.............. what does everyone think to it? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:34:08 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] edinburgh Paul, << so come on then ; who's going? if we're gonna meet up somewhere has anybody got any suggestions? i've only been there once in my life so i'm clueless ; i guess somebody here must have some ideas.......p >> Well I'm definitely on. I'm trying to sort out the logistics at the moment (basically I'm trying to screw another free night's hotel accommodation from the company that's putting me up on Saturday, at least at a discount rate....) I'll be flying up in the afternoon. No idea where Queens Hall is though....I've been to Edinburgh a few times but never to a gig. Plenty of good pubs/bars though.... Better get a ticket too! I'll let you know more when I get more info. I guess meet-ups can be arranged via mobile phones on the night. Who else is going?? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:34:28 +0000 From: Tim Robinson Subject: [idealcopy] The Fans Become The Band! Lets Panic Later and try and get some order to this thing! We could bounce this discussion back and forwards for ever and lose track of who wants to do what, what the actual purpose of the project is etc. Its an f***ing great idea and like all f***ing great ideas it won't happen if we don't have some kind of plan and put all the ideas in one place where we can all see them. May I propose a solution which might help achieve this aim and also reduce the noise this topic is creating on the list. I am quite happy to put up a little website where we can post an agreed manifesto for the project, a list of contributors and what information they propose to supply and perhaps a sounding board for us to discuss the items off list, etc. etc. Then its all 'carved in stone' for all to see. What do y'all think? The 'thing' needs a name as well. Shall we open the floor to ideas? My suggestions are: 12BU (my favourite) We are the Fly A Serious of Tapes Because We Must Three Hundred Girl Rhumba (Perhaps Ambitious or I Should have known better, might be more appropriate in a few weeks!) Tim. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:53:53 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: The Fans Become The Band! In a message dated 11/27/0 9:35:13 PM, timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: >I am quite happy to put up a little website where we can post an agreed >manifesto for the project, a list of contributors and what information >they propose to supply and perhaps a sounding board for us to discuss >the items off list, etc. etc. Then its all 'carved in stone' for all to >see. >What do y'all think? what a great idea! thank you tim. >The 'thing' needs a name as well. Shall we open the floor to ideas? >My suggestions are: > >12BU (my favourite) >We are the Fly >A Serious of Tapes >Because We Must >Three Hundred Girl Rhumba > >(Perhaps Ambitious or I Should have known better, might be more >appropriate in a few weeks!) i laughed out loud when i read these, still chuckling as i type this...maybe we could work all the titles in somehow. here's a few more (off the cuff): advantage in (band)width it's so ambiguous different to _______(fill in the blank)! a hundred and two people in a room no pun intended...okay pun intended, we know what our "options r" now let's "start to move" :o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #356 *******************************