From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #352 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, November 24 2000 Volume 03 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] The other IdealCopy ["Wilson, Paul" ] [idealcopy] OT: List Members unite [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] Spit list [Wireviews ] [idealcopy] drop/so .......etc [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] [idealcopy] Adforaudiomulch ('In Esse' soundtrack) [=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme] Re: [idealcopy] List Members unite whether musician or not!!! [Eardrumbuz] Re: [idealcopy] our project [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:21:19 -0000 From: "Wilson, Paul" Subject: [idealcopy] The other IdealCopy Giluz wrote "Would the idealCopyists moderator please come to the information desk... Identify yourself!!!" Mark wrote "I din't realise there was another list! Do we really need one?? It seemed to work fine before, and there was only one guy moaning about OT posts?" Well, just in case anyone was thinking this - it ain't me who has set this up. Actually, I have been involved in setting up a similar splinter mail list for The Residents (as the "Official one" was going too off-topic and far too "American only" ) and it did the world of good. It has revived the official one - not caused it's death. But... there are problems in that some people do choose one or the other. Also, I'm on an e-groups mail list for the Television Personalities, and it's not very good! I can't even get onto the e-groups website, cos our firewall at work stops us!!!! Although I seem to have been credited with being the ONE who was against the off-topic stuff, I would like to point out that I had 15-20 emails from people who thought I had a valid point. Paul (rezmole) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] OT: List Members unite " Perhaps the best idea would be for everyone to contribute on whatever recording medium they choose and then have a list of volunteers who will recieve the material and mix it. I'll happilly do some of the work. " If we end up with a bunch of tracks/samples, whatever, then I would be willing to contruct a couple of arrangements, perhaps one "noise" biased, and one "pop" biased or something ;-) " Maybe we could persuade messers Gilbert, Lewis, Newman and Gotobed to do something as well?! " I doubt they'd be interested in direct participation. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:47:34 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Spit list " I too did not know there even *was* another list - since when? " No idea what's going on either, but I agree that the list should not be split for all the same reasons that we have discussed before. " And as Giluz says, there's no clear dividing line between on- and off-topic posts: they often transform one into the other. " I guess one of the problems of filtering is to do with the fact that few people utilise the subject line. If more people filled in that bit last with the subject of their post, said filtering would be easier for all those that wanted to do it. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:40:31 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] drop/so .......etc hey , that copy of drop/so on ebay has reached $68. now that's a lot........ i love the collaborative music venture , not sure my bit will be anytihng exciting (lack of gear really). but i'll have a bash , i've been tempted to go look at these musicmaker programs so this may drive me on. as an aside , i do think this separate list is disappointing ; these things need a critical mass to sustain them and i really hope you don't end up with some rubbish like imusic which stays totally on topic and gets about 1 banal posting once in a blue moon. was it really so bad? i guess to some it was. ah well , can't please everyone.p ps so who's coming to edinburgh then? anyone able to suggest a meeting place? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:33:49 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Adforaudiomulch ('In Esse' soundtrack) This talk of adverts makes me glad I threw my TV out the (other) window about twelve years ago. 12XUTV! Worryingly, on the rare occasions that I do see some TV, I find the adverts more entertaining than the tripe that passes for popular entertainment. I suppose I do miss the comforting white noise advertising itself when the BBC/ITV go off air, but I've got my audiomulching PC machine & 'In Esse' CD to compensate. I don't think Audiomulch will run on a Mac, Katherine, but it is a lot of fun and it's Shareware developed by an Australian electroacoustic composer, so can be downloaded free or for however much you want to contribute to its future development from http://www.audiomulch.com It can be used to generate sound or to manipulate sound inputs from instruments or whatever. It has some very interesting effects, including a stereo spacialiser which is a right time eater. Mulch up your hats! Graeme ===== Cracked Machine webzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "What one thinks of as extremes seldom are" :: BC Gilbert Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:06:34 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] List Members unite whether musician or not!!! thank you! couldn't have said it better. and besides, i don't have any digital music making equipment! also, i do want to set a duration for the song or songs, however many we create. that is the only foundation required. of course, no one has to play for the entire length of a track, but having a set time allows people to place their sounds where they want them within the song. - -paul c.d. In a message dated 11/22/0 9:27:31 PM, timrobinson@cwcom.net writes: >Perhaps the best idea would be for everyone to contribute on whatever recording >medium they choose and then have a list of volunteers who will recieve >the material >and mix it. I'll happilly do some of the work. >Maybe we could persuade messers Gilbert, Lewis, Newman and Gotobed to do >something as >well?! > >The project is a good idea but it will be really boring if its just the >preserve of >the muso's on the list! >I want everyone to be involved in this, even if they just read the shipping >forecast >into a Binatone mono tape recorder or something! >Its gotta be open to everyone even if they don't consider themselves musicians, >whatever that means. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:18:35 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] our project i believe we can get started as soon as we know who of us will be assembling/mixing the tracks, and on what equipment. i will send the participants (or the whole idealcopy list) the addresses for sending in submissions. assembler/mixers, get your info to me! i will also determine how many tracks (and of what length) to send. i don't need to dictate this though. i just want to post it so everyone knows what to do. it can certainly be decided on by the group. i just feel strongly about the one thing, that the length of each track is the guiding factor in it's creation. thanks for your support. this is something i've wanted to do for years. it looks like it will finally come to being. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #352 *******************************