From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #314 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, October 16 2000 Volume 03 : Number 314 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] [OFF TOPIC] What's up with Thom Yorke? ["Paul Pietromonaco" <] Re: [idealcopy] Re: IdealCopy OT: Magazine and Wire [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Detroit Rock City [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] back on topic again - actual BCG content ["ian barrett" <] [idealcopy] Re: James Brown (so he can run me down!) [=?iso-8859-1?q?Grae] [idealcopy] On - Off - Stop - Go - Stop ["dMc" ] [idealcopy] Bruce's Invisible Jukebox [=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= ] [idealcopy] Re: MOBO (OFF TOPIC and slightly political) [=?iso-8859-1?q?G] [idealcopy] Shakin' Colin ["dMc" ] Re: [idealcopy] On - Off - Stop - Go - Stop [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_J=FCrge] Re: [idealcopy] Shakin' Colin [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_J=FCrgen_W=F6rner?= <] [idealcopy] Fwd: PJ Harvey [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] (0T) Re Non wire origins. ["Mats Hammerman" Subject: [idealcopy] [OFF TOPIC] What's up with Thom Yorke? Hi everyone, Okay - I have to share this with somebody, and this group may appreciate this more than anyone else I know. Radiohead just played on Saturday Night Live tonight. They played two songs from Kid A - The National Anthem and Idioteque. They acquited themselves with these "difficult" songs quite well. However, Thom Yorke looked posessed - more so than usual. His arms flailed, his body jerked - it was downright weird. In fact, the camera kept cutting from him when he wasn't singing - I think the producers of the show were afraid of what he was doing. (^_^). I re-watched a concert I have from the OK Computer era, and he moved a little oddly - but not like this. Has there been any news about his stage presence in the shows Radiohead has been doing in the UK? Actually, I'm sorta concerned for him - this just didn't look right, somehow. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:41:36 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: IdealCopy OT: Magazine and Wire > I've found the 'wry smile' that permeates Colin Newman's (live) performances a little overdone at times. I'm maybe reading it wrong, but it *suggests* he's not completely convinced by or committed to what he's doing (which I'm pretty sure can't be the case). I wasn't close enough to the front at RFH to note if this was still the persona, but it's irritated the hell out of non-Wire fans I know who've seen them live in the past. Did anybody on the list see any of the live work surrounding Commercial Suicide/It Seems? Was he less arch in his presentation of this work? //////my first wire gig was the astoria 88 where they just stood still and played. however , my next was the wir manscape gig at bristol , the set-up they were using meant colin wasn't playing guitar on a lot of tracks and he seemed to be enjoying himself a lot more. on 12 drill u and a couple of others he really did seem to be "getting on down" , it was almost a bit funky to be honest. mind you the venue helps , big hangars like the astoria/RFH are a bit clinical. were there any "commercial suicide" gigs? i don't think so. i have a tape of an "it seems" show and it's very dry , with brass and flute played live in an almost "chamber music" vibe. very un-rock , very unfunky. a couple of the more "classical" tracks never made it to the album. shame the uk missed that tour , must have been pretty unusual. p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:45:25 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Detroit Rock City << >If you're into Gwar at all I heard two albums. Kind of (perversely) enjoyed "America Must Be Destroyed". Disliked "Hell-O" at the very first listen. Never saw them live - from what I read it might be worth going. I l-u-v Green Jelly (who are influenced by Gwar a lot) though - do you know if these guys are still going? >> ///// not my normal cup of tea but gwar do a hilarious track callrd "slaughterama" which i bought an lp for. it's a spoof game show where contestants "risk death to win cash and prizes" , one by one they bring up a hippy , a goth and a nazi skinhead. it all ends in tears of course....p (the rest of the album is pretty awful tho) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:41:13 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] back on topic again - actual BCG content > > Charles Snider said - > > When Bruce G had an Invisible Jukebox sprung on him by > > the Wire mag about 5 years ago, they played him Oval. > Would this happen to be online? Or at any rate, does anyone know the > specific issue, so I could look it up? I'd be curious to read this! > Issue 137; July 1995. Not sure if it's online; try www.thewire.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 14:37:17 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Re: James Brown (so he can run me down!) >>James Brown, anybody? Never sat down and listened to a record of his, although he's one of those icons from which there is no escape - must've heard tons of his stuff by osmosis, even on other people's records! Certainly an 'important' musician, but one I've yet to really check out properly. However, I do have the album on which the Residents covered his 'Live @ the Apollo' in its entirety - way better and funnier than the tedious Gershwin tribute on the other side. Foetus 'Free James Brown so he can run me down' single always brought a smile too. >>Aretha? In a bookshop at which I used to work, there was an eighties Cd by Ms Franklin left near the Cd player. Nobody knew how it got there, but one day someone put it on... well, I'm sure she did better stuff earlier on! I have fond memories of being scolded by an irate customer for playing a Pierre Henry CD - "Its not music! Its driving me insane!" Actually I had intended to take it off before it got to the symphony for a sigh and a creaky door hinge, but got distracted. Einsturzende Neubauten also proved pretty unpopular there! >>The early Motown stuff? Oddly a lot of the musicians who played on those records by day did jazz at night which was more their thing. Heard a lot of it but never made much impression beyond being quite hummable I suppose. One of these days perhaps I'll give this stuff a proper listen. >>Shriekback? Liked 'Oil and Gold' at the time but exchanged it ages ago. Ever notice the similarity between 'Nemesis' and that silly novelty hit 'I eat cannibals' (can't remember who did it for which i suppose I should thankful). Also I remember John Peel playing 'Hammerheads' and mis-hearing a lyric as 'Yes! Yes! Hammerheads! John Peel running through the fields' which was quite funny. A band very much of their time, whatever that means! >>Gary Clail? Slightly annoying. I almost started eating meat again when a flatmate kept playing his 'Beef how low can you go?' thing everyday. :-) Still, it was way preferable to all his bloody Peter Hammill records or BSE! >>Mark Stewart? First Pop Group album 'Y' is a spiky under-rated deconstructionist political dub pop classic - 'We Are Time' in particular blows my eyeballs to the back of my skull. Second album's good too, and some of his Mafia stuff is quite good, although I find it a bit samey in comparison to the Pop Group. >>I'd be interested in whether any of you share this opinion - I find that a lot of Wire songs have quite a funky backbone to them. 'Lowdown' brings back memories of 'Papa was a rolling stone' and 'I should have known better' can be interpreted as 'Get up off that thang' backwards... At the Saturday garage stint, DJ Kevin Martin (aka Techno Animal) played the song from which 'Lowdown' was in part derived. I've no idea what it was, but 'Lowdown' seems to me more like funk with the funk removed if that makes any sense! On Sunday Wire restored the funk to this song with their soundman (an ex-Mute Driver) guesting on guitar. Again avoiding points c, d and e, The Fly in the Ointment ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 08:24:01 -0500 From: "dMc" Subject: [idealcopy] On - Off - Stop - Go - Stop > I'm talking about Jazz, Reggae, World Music etc. > Anybody who thinks Merzbau or the other noise > merchants are great should maybe go and listen to John > Coltrane or Archie Shepp or Pharaoh Saunders. Then > they'll know what ear bleeding is all about! Merzbau might disagree with your catagorizing him as 'white' There is an implicit racism in thinking all non-blacks are 'white' > Food for thought. I hope. indeed > > << Hannett was responsible for the production on Joy > > Division's "Unknown > > Pleasures," breaking glass, distant sirens, Ian's > > claustrophically-impaired > > voice? It was a masterpiece. Then, he did > > "Closer"? Great producer. > > You mean he nicked all of Pere Ubu's ideas. See The > Modern Dance. spot on! > Magic Murder and the Weather is one > > of the most lifeless > > recordings imaginable, historical note devoto and co were on the same track as GO4 in trying to emulate 60's US soul singles GO4 went after Stax and Magazine went after Motown United Sound in Detroit, from whence all the great singles came until Berry Gordy decided there were more women in California, has the hands-down worst soundstage in the recording world i am not sure if it is still standing today i have been listening to 'the handy wah! whole' this week and marvelling at the amount of gated reverb that so marks the 80's Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan left this mortal coil a year or two ago. He was *much* revered in the Pakistani and Indian communities. In Chicago's India Town (Devon and Western) you will find his CDs represented in greater quantities than most Bollywood stars. And Bhanga is not completely dead there either - tho I picked up a rather cool CD, Punjabi 2000, which looks to be hip-hop, but sounds more bhanga. Sainkho is an astounding Tibettan vocalist who has done alot of work with western producers including Hector Zazou. Those looking for otherworldly vocals are also recommended to *anything* with Sussan Deihim. Frequently collaborating with Richard Horowitz, there was a recent recording, Mahjoun, on Sony Classics here in the states and an earlier one on Crammed. *The* Wire reviewed a newer soundtrack work which I have been unable to locate :{ Kevin (and other MOBO inclined) are advised to visit the Velvet Lounge in Chicago. http://www.centerstage.net/chicago/music/clubs/velvet-lounge.html Thursday Nights are *the shit* Name checking the missing: Found The Pop Group - We Are Time (the Y one in the plain sleeve) Japanese reissue a couple years back really astounding - remixed by Mark Stewart (still searching for the Mark Springer - preferably on CD) New Age Steppers - The Passions - Metro - David Cunningham - A Dip In The Pool - John Fahey - Fifty Foot Hose - David Toop - John Cage - Haroumi Hosono - Ryuichi Sakamoto - Cabaret Voltaire - Eric Dolphy - Charles Mingus - Arto Lindsay - Mark Cunningham - Lizzy Mercier Descloux - Takako Minekawa - Milton Nasciemento - Nelories - Seigen Ono - Jim O'Rourke - Jorge Reyes - Patti Smith - Sun Ra (one could limit their listening to Sun Ra and take in the entirety of human experience - skip everything else) - Nobekazu Takemura - Mathematiques Modernes - Anthony Moore - Slapp Happy - Cecil Taylor - Air (not the french guys) - Allan Toussaint - Tom Verlaine - Akiko Yano - Otomo Yoshihide - Haco - Sachiko M - Hoaho - Fred Frith There I got that off my chest d _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:42:13 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Bruce's Invisible Jukebox This appeared in The Wire 137 (July 95) Main (still a duo at that point) were on the cover. Its out of print. They put out a book compiling past Invisible Jukebox's but I think Bruce's was passed over in favour of Sonic Youth, Elvis Costello, Henry Rollins, etc. It is not online according to the sites devoted to the Wire mag's articles. I've e-mailed The Wire to ask permnission to put it on line. If they say yes, then I'll have to type it all out, after which I'd be happy to e-mail you the transcript! Some choice quotes: "Lets face it, I'm not really a DJ." "I'm moving back to absurdity." About Aphex Twin: "I keep thinking Kate Bush." Joy Division: "Is this new?" Elastica: "My first thought was that I was really envious that they had sequencers, which we didn't when we did 'Three Girl Rhumba'." Einheit-Brotzmann: "There's a lot of life in it. Their approach is at times humorous as well." (just like the Ideal Copy!) One of the best things to ever appear in the Wire, but I would say that wouldn't I? In 3 Minds, The Fly in the Ointment ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:43:22 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Re: MOBO (OFF TOPIC and slightly political) Quoth Kevin Eden: >>>Anybody who thinks Merzbau or the other noise merchants are great should maybe go and listen to John Coltrane or Archie Shepp or Pharaoh Saunders. 'Ascension' by Coltrane is superb - but I go for Albert Ayler's 'Village Concerts' (Impulse!) more - so utterly uplifting. Another wonderfully uplifting piece of music is Kraftwerk's 'Kometenmelodie 2' from 'Autobahn' which backs up Bat Chain Puller's comments about electronic music not being cold. Bearing in mind that I like 'Ascension' what other recordings in a similar free-playing vein could you recommend? I must say I find the earlier Coltrane tracks that usually turn up on compilations rather bland. And I don't know if 'Ascension' was one the ear-bleeders you referred to, but I reckon you'd need to blast 5-6 copies all at once to get close to the density of, say, Merzbow's 'Tauromachine' (Relapse). The most ear-bleeding jazz saxophonist I've heard is (white German) Peter Brotzmann, although the Last Exit group did also feature (black Americans) Sonny Sharrock and Ronald Shannon Jackson. Not that skin colour is any kind of criteria in deciding whether to listen to music, but white (and yellow) musicians do tend to dominate my ear-time. That's also symptomatic of the music industry. As that famous half multicoloured Caucasian Captain Beefheart said, we're all coloured people. Indeed one of the most extreme but also uplifting and thoroughly contemporary pieces of free jazz sax blowing can be found on (sadly deceased Japanese band) Ground Zero's 'Last Concert' CD (Amoebic/Alcohol). Amazing stuff indeed! Ornette Coleman, Miles Davies, Sun Ra, Kid Koala, James Brown, Aretha Franklin and Motown have all been mentioned recently but not discussed extensively its true. >>>Shakin Stevens - oh for f***s sake. I thought Spyro Gyra were scraping the barrel. Can't we talk about something better. But what could be better than Shaky? :-) William Shatner hamming up 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds' perhaps. Pure comedy! :-) :-O ;-) Picture yourself on a lake of marshmallow eyes behind the green door! The Fly in the Ointment (Currently listening to the David S. Ware Quartet and later, perhaps, a spot of Matthew Shipp) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:19:32 -0500 From: "dMc" Subject: [idealcopy] Shakin' Colin > As far as the style of singing of all three vocalists goes, however, I > agree with you completely: It's very much MOWO. Almost regrettably so. > As is their restrained way of 'performing'. Very earnest, very self- > centred, with the occasional exception of Mr. Lewis aiming at something > like communication with the audience, and the less convincing 'I-can't- > dance' routines of Mr. Newman. As bold as they were when it came to > experimenting with sounds, they never ventured beyond the well-explored > realms of (tongue-in-cheek-) boredom, anger, despair and straightforward > telling where the vocals are concerned. I guess this precludes Kraftwerk from being applicable to MOBO as well. You really don't have to shake it - the trick is to make others do so. Offtopic alert I was about to put in my .02 that Detroit tips, while moderatly interesting to me, might be better off line, but then I realized that Record Store tips seem to be v. pertinent to this list - so I will let that suggestion pass and expand it. Where do y'all shop? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:10:11 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_J=FCrgen_W=F6rner?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On - Off - Stop - Go - Stop - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dMc" To: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 3:24 PM Subject: [idealcopy] On - Off - Stop - Go - Stop > > Name checking the missing: > Found The Pop Group - We Are Time (the Y one in the plain sleeve) Japanese > reissue a couple years back Just listened to their single with the slits on the flip side ... ;-)) > The Passions - which one ... have their first album here ... > Anthony Moore - Flying doesn't help ... ;-)) > Tom Verlaine - still my guitar hero ... which one ... ? Frank ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:13:17 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frank_J=FCrgen_W=F6rner?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Shakin' Colin - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dMc" To: Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 6:19 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Shakin' Colin > > Where do y'all shop? Uhmmm ... Napster ... Got some names from this list ( sigur ros, etc. ) and downloaded much stuff ... Frank np: Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:58:01 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: PJ Harvey - --part1_66.849b3f5.271b7459_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --part1_66.849b3f5.271b7459_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Full-name: PaulRabjohn Message-ID: <73.7a3b38c.271ae1df@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 06:33:03 EDT Subject: Re: PJ Harvey To: crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk, paulp@wrq.com CC: outdoorminer@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 102 Paul P said: >>>But, then again, I must be one of the few human beings on the planet that really enjoyed "Dance Hall At Louse Point". I love that album! Haven't listened to it for way too long - think I'll dig it out right now! That one and 'Is This Desire?' are my favourites. I saw her play 'Dance Hall' accompanying some dancers which was great! /////// i saw that pj + ballet performance at warwick uni. pretty good really , tho maybe not up to micheal clark sort of standards. interesting how many of the "louse point" tracks stayed in the live set for the "ITD" tour , i think for pj that was a serious 4th album not some side-project. I totally agree about 'To Bring You My Love' except my track of choice is 'The Dancer' Just like Nick Cave with 'The Good Son' she lost me there, then won me back with 'That Was My Veil' - by far her best single imo. Always found 'Sheela-Na-Gig' a bit irritating though. ///// well i think TBYML was a good move away from the ultra-intense albini album. not perfect but i think a lot of the tracks worked well. her performance on that "britpop now" show of meet ze monsta was amazing , blowing away all the sleepers and echobellys in fine style. i went to the bham date with 3 non-committed friends , all now rate that show as one of their handful of best ever gigs ; this little skeletal figure in a flowing white dress gyrating wildly in these really intense spotlights , totally captivating (and tricky in his prime as the support). for the ITD tour she was back in black playing the guitar and hiding behind the mike-stand , maybe a step back was the only way. Of the new songs one called 'The Whore's Hustle and the Hustler's Whore' stood out. As that title seems to indicate, I think she might be getting to the point of lyrical self-parody, which is a shame. Gone are the programmed rhythms of 'Desire?' Yes, the sound is perhaps more stripped down like 'Dance Hall' minus the angularity and the songs seemed way more commercial, as if they'd been written with an ear cocked towards US FM radio. One song copped very obviously from Patti Smith's 'Dancing Barefoot' but was pale in comparison. Bear in mind that I've heard/recorded 7-8 songs at this point, and not the whole album. //////// john parish seems to have gone now , new guitarist is margaret fiedler of laika. whose "german shepherd" is one of my fave tracks on "whore". whoops , slipped back OT there. anyway , if you get the chance to see her i'd say go give it a go. but that peel show is maybe a good first try. p - --part1_66.849b3f5.271b7459_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:33:12 GMT From: "Mats Hammerman" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (0T) Re Non wire origins. >Any suggestions for current "world music"? >Alan Its maybe not totally correct to recommend a band on your own label but check out Garmarna - a Swedish band with a fantastic female vocalist who does medievial traditional Swedish (murder)ballads in 21-century costume. Tours the US in November for you folks over there. http://www.cabal.se/massproduktion/garmarna/garmindex.html By the way. Sopranos is just running on the Swedish television. It starts with a song that sounds like Shriekback. Is it? All the best Mats _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:40:11 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: [idealcopy] Pink Floyd Flags July 95 - Dave Morrison plays Bruce Gilbert PINK FLOYD 'Astronomy Domine' from 'Piper At The Gates Of Dawn' (Harvest) "I was going to say this sounds like a pastiche of Pink Floyd. [laughs] Is it Pink Floyd? I'm not terribly familiar with them. I went to see them once: in London, a kind of experimental place... with Liquid Len." The UFO club? "Yeah, I don't remember very much about it - not because of chemical alteration. It's curious how quaint it sounds, slightly tinny, but at the same time it was extremely heavy and interesting." A lot of people suggested that Wire were influenced by this area and period. "'New psychedelia'.We never understood this comment at all really. They were certainly not an influence to me, but might have been to Graham Lewis or Colin Newman, I'm not sure. But it would have been more to do with seepage type influence rather than direct influence. Syd Barrett perhaps... Colin definitely was a child of the 60s so it was the perfect time frame for him - he was quite young. Pink Floyd, I should imagine, was a topic of conversation in the playground." Would you agree that Wire had a distinct sense of Englishness about it? "Yeah. I think it was a combination of playing and thinking... The group did play some covers - some American covers [JJ Cale's 'After Midnight' and Jonathan Richman's 'Roadrunner' in the style of 'Strange' in collaboration with the Ex Lion Tamers], but with a certain amount of irony. And irreverence? "Well irreverence is a funny word; not so much irreverence towards the music but towards people who consume that kind of music. The word 'assassination' comes to mind! So really the Englishness or the European way of looking at it comes from something as simple and physical as the fact that we were making it up as we went along quite often, in terms of creating pieces, and the tools were of our own devising. Perhaps with the exception of Captain Beefheart, American groups didn't as a rule have a song and say, 'It's kind of alright, but I wonder what it would sound like backwards?'" [Lifted from The Wire 137] Lock up your hats! The Fly in the Ointment ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:20:43 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: IdealCopy OT: Magazine and Wire Ian, << Did anybody on the list see any of the live work surrounding Commercial Suicide/It Seems? Was he less arch in his presentation of this work? >> I saw Colin at the Venue in 82 "promoting" Not To (by playing an almost all-new set) and yes, he was a lot less arch. Having a ball, actually, very playful (playing harmonicas and kazoos etc) and even being dragged off stage at the end (in cartoos style) by his band members after..."Remove for Improvement". If you read between the lines of interviews with CN (particularly Graeme Rowland's excellent one of just before the Wire reformation) he almost confesses to being less emotionally attached to Wire than Graham or Bruce, though they all seemed to agree once they had reformed about the relevance of the music in today's climate. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:27:04 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OFF TOPIC] What's up with Thom Yorke? Paul, He was fine at the RFH in July - pretty much as usual. If anything less intense than a few years ago as he was playing keyboards on a lot of the songs so he probably had to concentrate a bit harder! I guess he was probably having fun with a conservative US audience? Mark << Okay - I have to share this with somebody, and this group may appreciate this more than anyone else I know. Radiohead just played on Saturday Night Live tonight. They played two songs from Kid A - The National Anthem and Idioteque. They acquited themselves with these "difficult" songs quite well. However, Thom Yorke looked posessed - more so than usual. His arms flailed, his body jerked - it was downright weird. In fact, the camera kept cutting from him when he wasn't singing - I think the producers of the show were afraid of what he was doing. (^_^). I re-watched a concert I have from the OK Computer era, and he moved a little oddly - but not like this. Has there been any news about his stage presence in the shows Radiohead has been doing in the UK? Actually, I'm sorta concerned for him - this just didn't look right, somehow. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:30:43 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: James Brown (so he can run me down!) In a message dated 10/15/00 1:46:18PM, you write: << Ever notice the similarity between 'Nemesis' and that silly novelty hit 'I eat cannibals' (can't remember who did it for which i suppose I should thankful) >> Toto Coelo. Sorry. These things are just in my head. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 20:51:34 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - record shops David, << Where do y'all shop? >> In London, generally Selectadisc (plus the usual Virgin/HMV/Tower as they open late - the ones in Piccadilly Circus are open till Midnight). Also various indie/secondhand shops around the place - depends where I am. I can recommend Action Records in Preston, Lancs, as one of the best in the UK. I go to the odd record fair too, which are the best places for bargains, especially old vinyl. In the US the aforementioned Detroit stores. If I go to California (about once every 2 years at the current rate - used to be more often) I try to get to Amoeba and Rasputin in Berkeley. Amoeba also has a new branch in San Francisco, on Haight. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 07:51:40 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] (0T) Re Non wire origins. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mats Hammerman Sent: 15 October 2000 23:33 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (0T) Re Non wire origins. By the way. Sopranos is just running on the Swedish television. It starts with a song that sounds like Shriekback. Is it? All the best Mats I thought the title music for The Sopranos was "Woke Up This Morning " by Alabama 3. Definitely the band, I my stand corrected on the track. AndyL ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #314 *******************************