From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #301 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, October 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 301 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ELO vs Styx [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] scraping the barrel [kevin eden ] Fwd: please help [kevin eden ] RE: scraping the barrel ["giluz" ] RE: scraping the barrel [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re scraping the barrel [alan gray ] RE: Re scraping the barrel ["giluz" ] Re: Re scraping the barrel [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Tarwater! [Eric Scott ] Re: Re scraping the barrel [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: Re scraping the barrel [MarkBursa@aol.com] Cocteau Twins - Stars and Topsoil [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] idealcopy-digest V3 #300 or Miles, this list sucks ["wiremailorder.com" <] Re: scraping the barrel [george.m.hook@ac.com] Re: scraping the barrel [MarkBursa@aol.com] Kid A available free on-line [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: Kid A available free on-line [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] please help [kevin eden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 05:47:06 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: ELO vs Styx ////// it is a truly sad thing how so much crap knowledge accumulates in the back of my brain. if only i could remember stuff that was actually useful...... though it must be said all those cod disco records where people like ELO and elton john tried to cash in were mostly hilariously bad. i had a tape from Q magazine which had "brown eyed girl" by van on it (which i love) , also had the dire ELO "don't bring me down" which features the most lame , plodding bass line ever committed to vinyl. so bad as to be laughable. mind you , i never heard ELO 2 (minus jeff lynne)... p << Paul, Now just HOW did you know that ;-) Come on, out of the closet, you're with friends..... Mark << Poor old Neil wasn't really with us in the '80s was he? I can still remember the relief when Eldorado came out. >> //// wasn't that ELO's disco cash-in album? p >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: scraping the barrel With all this talk of ELO and Styx why dont we go the whole hog and scrape the barrel. Anyone for Spyro Gyra? HA! ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:59:10 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: Fwd: please help - --0-1967513926-970653550=:20612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ - --0-1967513926-970653550=:20612 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: wmouk@yahoo.com via web203.mail.yahoo.com Return-Path: X-Track: -40 Received: from mpdr0.chicago.il.ameritech.net (EHLO mailhost.chi.ameritech.net) (206.141.239.142) by mta203.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Oct 2000 13:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ameritech ([64.108.209.205]) by mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20001002201229.DMOC28200.mailhost.chi.ameritech.net@ameritech>; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c02cad$174f2100$cdd16c40@ameritech.net> Reply-To: "charles" From: "charles" To: "Rupert MacCrimmon" , "Paul Kendall" , "Lex & Ru" , "Colin Newman" , "Kevin Eden" , "Joshua Maremont" , "Ibrahim Bozai" , "graham lewis" , "Dimitri Fergadis" , "Darren Bergstein 2" , "Craig Grannell" Subject: please help Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:12:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Length: 72 http://www.angelfire.com/ky2/noizeless/ charles csnide@ameritech.net - --0-1967513926-970653550=:20612-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:18:11 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: scraping the barrel > With all this talk of ELO and Styx why dont we go the > whole hog and scrape the barrel. Anyone for Spyro > Gyra? > > HA! A definite knockout indeed. Find me anything lower than that. Paul, be careful if you try to feed that into your software, 'cause your whole system might crush as a result. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 06:43:24 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: RE: scraping the barrel << > With all this talk of ELO and Styx why dont we go the > whole hog and scrape the barrel. Anyone for Spyro > Gyra? > > HA! A definite knockout indeed. Find me anything lower than that. Paul, be careful if you try to feed that into your software, 'cause your whole system might crush as a result. giluz ///// you know for me the thing i really really hate above all is when artists try to combine classical music with rock and end up with a hideous pretentious disaster area.rock n roll with everything that was good about it clinically removed. torture. so my nomination for the utter nadir of 44 years of popular music is ...... Emerson lake & Palmer. to me that is as bad as music gets. spyro gyra don't get close i'm afraid.p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:36:15 -0400 (EDT) From: alan gray Subject: Re scraping the barrel > With all this talk of ELO and Styx why dont we go the > whole hog and scrape the barrel. Anyone for Spyro > Gyra? > > HA Gilluz! Thanks for that, but does anyone remember "The Yachts" A No wave band, white blazers with scrambled egg on the sleeves. Plus I'm amazed that Catherine seems to have kept her powder dry throughout this extended ELO Styx day. She was pummelled for merely mentioning ELO a few monthes ago - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:50:11 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Re scraping the barrel > Plus > I'm amazed that Catherine seems to have kept her powder dry > throughout this > extended ELO Styx day. She was pummelled for merely mentioning ELO a few > monthes ago > Don't worry, she'll show up... giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:07:20 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re scraping the barrel Alan, << Thanks for that, but does anyone remember "The Yachts" A No wave band, white blazers with scrambled egg on the sleeves. >> Aww, come on....inoffensive Liverpudlian new wave pop (mainman Henry Priestaman went on to form The Christians). Doesn't rank anywhere near the lows of pomp-prog. Personally, I'd nominate Rick Wakeman's solo albums (journey to the centre of the earthe etc) as worse than ELP. Added levels of absurdity grafted on to pompous, portentious neo-classical noodlings. Utter shite. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 08:27:09 -0700 From: Eric Scott Subject: Re: Tarwater! "TARWATER! Now there's a subject I'll gladly discuss!" he said, popping from out of the woodwork. Seriously, I cannot stop playing the new one. This is "Animals, Suns & Atoms..." Standout tracks are "All of the Ants Left Paris", "7 Ways To Fake A Perfect Skin," "Noon,"....This will get too hard as I am likely to name all the tracks here. If you also heard the second most-recent and liked "Silur" you probably won't be too disappointed. Another excellent choice is "eleven six twelve ten" from about '96. The remix one of "rabbit moon" is still growing on me, though...but slowly. +Plus Tarwater has a dub collaboration with Tikiman at the moment, "Like a Miracle" which sounds a bit like one of the Horace Andy/Massive Attack cuts from around the time of Protection...probably worth a spin if you're in agreement with any of the above. RUN don't walk, I say! : ) Eric who does not stand to profit directly from these endorsements, honest. > Did anyone hear the last Tarwater album (and has any comment on it [i.e. is > it worth anything])? > > giluz - -- - ------------------------------------------------------ DAY for NIGHT voice: 310.393.3840 fax/modem: 310.393.2374 ericscott@dayfornight.com http://www.dayfornight.com ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:34:38 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: Re scraping the barrel << Thanks for that, but does anyone remember "The Yachts" A No wave band, white blazers with scrambled egg on the sleeves. >> Aww, come on....inoffensive Liverpudlian new wave pop (mainman Henry Priestaman went on to form The Christians). Doesn't rank anywhere near the lows of pomp-prog. Personally, I'd nominate Rick Wakeman's solo albums (journey to the centre of the earthe etc) as worse than ELP. Added levels of absurdity grafted on to pompous, portentious neo-classical noodlings. Utter shite. Mark ////// well rick was of course shite. but i think at least there was a bit of humour to him. whereas i think keith emerson was actually worse if that was possible. and he was only a third of the horrorshow.p >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:39:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re scraping the barrel Paul, Well I guess the King Arthur on Ice show (or whatever it was) must have been funny, with those skating knights in Bernie Clifton-style costumes... Mark << ///// well rick was of course shite. but i think at least there was a bit of humour to him. whereas i think keith emerson was actually worse if that was possible. and he was only a third of the horrorshow.p >> >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:30:45 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Cocteau Twins - Stars and Topsoil From 4AD if anyone's interested. Less than two weeks and counting to the release of 'Stars and Topsoil', Cocteau Twins' first ever collection of the best of their 4AD years. Out on 16 October (except USA), this much-anticipated retrospective has already garnered fantastic reviews and is a must-have for both fans and the unenlightened. To celebrate this important event, www.4AD.com is hosting a special Cocteau Twins feature. ?Updated weekly in the run-up to the album's release, it will form a musical history of the band, with audio highlights, rarely-seen video footage, artwork to download as wallpaper, a photo gallery and brand new biography. The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:03:26 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #300 or Miles, this list sucks ELO vs Styx... guess we reallly are running out of things to write about. Miles - you should put this on hiatus for a month or so.... or whenever Wire are doing something again. It's embarrasing. c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:23:08 -0500 From: george.m.hook@ac.com Subject: Re: scraping the barrel You know, people, the 1970s weren't all bad (as in Styx, ELO, Journey, ad nauseum). I bought the boxed import Mott the Hoople "All the Young Dudes" retrospective yesterday, and I recommend it as a reminder that this was one great band. What's impressive is that they maintained their English identity while scoring big in the States with "Mott" and "All the Young Dudes." A good hardworking (glitter) outfit, and catchy tunes, too. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:06:52 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: scraping the barrel George, Oh yes, Mott were superb....on similar related maters I bought the Bowie at the Beeb 3CD BBC sessions thing this week - the CD of Hunky Dory/Ziggy stiuff is fantastic - as is John Peel's hippy mumbling intros throughout and Bowie introducing his new Guitarist "Michael who's just come down from Hull".... Mark << You know, people, the 1970s weren't all bad (as in Styx, ELO, Journey, ad nauseum). I bought the boxed import Mott the Hoople "All the Young Dudes" retrospective yesterday, and I recommend it as a reminder that this was one great band. What's impressive is that they maintained their English identity while scoring big in the States with "Mott" and "All the Young Dudes." A good hardworking (glitter) outfit, and catchy tunes, too. >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 17:24:53 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Kid A available free on-line Hi everyone, Hey - the entire Kid A album is available via Real Audio. Sounds great, too. Cheers, Paul http://www.musicserver2.com/host/radiohead/0266472_0102_99_9999.ram *********************************************************** Brain: "Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" Pinky: "I think so Brain, but can the gummy worms really live in peace with the marshmallow chips?" Paul Pietromonaco Test Engineer - Reflection X WRQ, Inc. E-Mail: paulp@wrq.com *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 21:35:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Kid A available free on-line On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > Hi everyone, > Hey - the entire Kid A album is available via Real Audio. > > http://www.musicserver2.com/host/radiohead/0266472_0102_99_9999.ram Is this an official file? Also: odd that no one's yet noted that _Kid A_ shares a title with our boys: the 9th track is called "Morning Bell." (I'm listening to the CD for the first time as I write, and I haven't heard that track yet - I'm assuming it's not a cover!) - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/reviews.html ::Sting, where is thy death?:: __Alan Gray_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 01:44:49 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: master of the universe This was addressed at the time, but a friend just asked me & I've forgotten the details ... just what is the status of that great version (remix?) of Hawkwind's Master of the Universe (assuming I'm remembering the title correctly ... only Hawkwind I own -- first import LP I ever bought, as it happens -- is Quark Strangeness & Charm) that Colin spun in the Smart Bar during his post-gig DJ stint in Chicago? Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: please help sorry about that folks.... here it is gain http://www.angelfire.com/ky2/noizeless/ ===== kevin eden wmo, po box 112, stockport, cheshire, sk3 9fd, uk wmouk@yahoo.com http://wiremailorder.com/ "dreams that money can buy" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #301 *******************************