From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #281 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, September 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: ultimate wire rarity ["giluz" ] RE: The Fall @ RFH 22/9/00 ["giluz" ] RE: ultimate wire rarity ["giluz" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["tube disaster" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] RE: ultimate wire rarity ["giluz" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity [Mark Short ] 8 track history..... ["lucifersam" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["lucifersam" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: ultimate wire rarity [Carl Archer ] RE: ultimate wire rarity ["giluz" ] Hox/Ocsid ["wiremailorder.com" ] RE: ultimate wire rarity ["Ciscon, Ray" ] RE: 8 tracks ["Laurel G" ] Wire rarity and such [Joseph Silber ] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["tube disaster" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["tube disaster" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) ["tube disaster" ] Re: ultimate wire rarity [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity [george.m.hook@ac.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: The Fall @ RFH 22/9/00 [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: ultimate wire rarity [Mark Short ] Re: ultimate wire rarity ["tube disaster" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:36:10 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: ultimate wire rarity > on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track cartridge of > "pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe What's an 8-track cartridge? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:49:59 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: The Fall @ RFH 22/9/00 > > Anyone going? We talk about them as much as we do Wire ! > > I'll be there... > > Mark Oh god, I wish I could, but I just got back from vacation last week, and am considering going to Vienna in November to see TransAm. Is this a regular Fall gig or a kinda special evening like the Wire RFH gig - maybe anyone who's ever been to the Fall for 5 minutes would appear, and at the end they'll all go up to the stage to sing Hip Priest together a-la-BandAid style, and the stage will collapse? That would be an appropriate ending for the Fall, innit? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:20:22 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: ultimate wire rarity C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a clue. giluz > -----Original Message----- > From: lucifersam [mailto:lucifersam@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:01 AM > To: giluz > Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > > > Giluz........I hate you for making me feel so fucking old........;-) > Le Cat Siamese.....;-) > > > > > on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track > cartridge of > > > "pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe > > > > What's an 8-track cartridge? > > > > giluz > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 04:26:03 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity I don't have the technical vocabulary or knowhow to shed much light, but just imagine cassettes if they were really clunky, occasionally were recorded so as to interrupt a song in the middle, then pick it up on another "track," & were about the size of, I dunno (haven't laid eyes on one in years), your hand. Dan >C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to >record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a >clue. > >giluz > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lucifersam [mailto:lucifersam@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:01 AM >> To: giluz >> Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >> >> >> Giluz........I hate you for making me feel so fucking old........;-) >> Le Cat Siamese.....;-) >> >> >> > > on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track >> cartridge of >> > > "pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe >> > >> > What's an 8-track cartridge? >> > >> > giluz >> > >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:42:42 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity And you need an eight track machine to play these on. If I remember correctly each cassette could hold a couple of hours of music (?). Chris. "tube disaster" on 14/09/2000 10:26:03 To: "wire mailing list" cc: (bcc: Chris Ray/Finance/MEDAS) Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity I don't have the technical vocabulary or knowhow to shed much light, but just imagine cassettes if they were really clunky, occasionally were recorded so as to interrupt a song in the middle, then pick it up on another "track," & were about the size of, I dunno (haven't laid eyes on one in years), your hand. Dan >C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to >record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a >clue. > >giluz > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lucifersam [mailto:lucifersam@ntlworld.com] >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:01 AM >> To: giluz >> Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >> >> >> Giluz........I hate you for making me feel so fucking old........;-) >> Le Cat Siamese.....;-) >> >> >> > > on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track >> cartridge of >> > > "pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe >> > >> > What's an 8-track cartridge? >> > >> > giluz >> > >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:44:12 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: ultimate wire rarity What, are you actually referring to the 1/2" reel tape of the origianl sessions? Why do you consider it worthless? If it is then I'm a certain bidder. giluz ps - hey Dan - read Vurt already? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of tube disaster > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:26 AM > To: wire mailing list > Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > > > I don't have the technical vocabulary or knowhow to shed much light, but > just imagine cassettes if they were really clunky, occasionally were > recorded so as to interrupt a song in the middle, then pick it up > on another > "track," & were about the size of, I dunno (haven't laid eyes on one in > years), your hand. > > Dan > > > >C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to > >record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a > >clue. > > > >giluz > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: lucifersam [mailto:lucifersam@ntlworld.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:01 AM > >> To: giluz > >> Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > >> > >> > >> Giluz........I hate you for making me feel so fucking old........;-) > >> Le Cat Siamese.....;-) > >> > >> > >> > > on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track > >> cartridge of > >> > > "pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe > >> > > >> > What's an 8-track cartridge? > >> > > >> > giluz > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:55:49 +0100 From: Mark Short Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity giluz wrote: > > C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to > record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a > clue. > > giluz > The Unique Selling Proposition of 8-track cartridges was its rudimentary version of random access. You could switch from track to track at the push of a button. This works fine if there are 8 or less cuts on the album, but doesn't lend itself very well to Pink Flag. The system had a bad reputation for jamming up, which I imagine contributed to its demise. And The Man wasn't too happy about having three formats (vinyl, cassette, 8-track) on the go. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:31:22 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: 8 track history..... Um....someone help me here!!!! I'm not too sure how to explaine it. But they lasted about as long as Quadrophonic stereo systems! > C'mon, I'm not that young (31), and I even had the (great) opportunity to > record and mix on an 8-track, but what's an 8-track cartridge? give me a > clue. > > Giluz........I hate you for making me feel so fucking old........;-) > > Le Cat Siamese.....;-) > > > What's an 8-track cartridge? > > > > > > giluz > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:37:55 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity Imagine a modern day cassette, but about 6 times the size. If you aint got a player then dont by the cartridge mate, You'll only be able to use it as a door stop! > What, are you actually referring to the 1/2" reel tape of the origianl > sessions? Why do you consider it worthless? If it is then I'm a certain > bidder. > > giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:54:01 EDT From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >so, what's your technique for locating wire items on ebay? not the >easiest to search...as is the case with james. any suggestions from >listers would be appreciated :o) wire CD -hot -down -train -kix -walking -cable -barb leaves only 50% non-wire stuff in the search results Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://belmusic.hypermart.net _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:01:12 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >>You'll only be able to use it as a door stop! Or a drinkers coaster. Personally I would put it on my mantlepiece (making sure it doen't melt, of course). It would make a great ice breaker at dinner parties. Chris. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:15:45 -0400 From: Carl Archer Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity I figured somebody should put an URL about this: http://www.8trackheaven.com/index2.html - -Carl > From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:01:12 +0100 > To: "lucifersam" > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > > > > >>> You'll only be able to use it as a door stop! > > Or a drinkers coaster. Personally I would put it on my mantlepiece (making > sure it doen't melt, of course). It would make a great ice breaker at > dinner parties. > > Chris. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:48:05 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: ultimate wire rarity > > The Unique Selling Proposition of 8-track cartridges was its > rudimentary version > of random access. You could switch from track to track at the > push of a button. > This works fine if there are 8 or less cuts on the album, but doesn't lend > itself very well to Pink Flag. > > The system had a bad reputation for jamming up, which I imagine > contributed to > its demise. And The Man wasn't too happy about having three > formats (vinyl, > cassette, 8-track) on the go. That's a great concept (quadrophonic systems were a great concept as well, but this is even better) - I've always dreamt of a CDRom version of an LP when you'd be able to switch from track to track, and maybe even create your own mix. Someone should do something about it. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:53:31 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: Hox/Ocsid FYI - I have exactly two (2) copies of these CDs left... If you want them, send me an email; first comes, first served. charles shop@wiremailorder.com http://wiremailorder.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:16:13 -0500 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: ultimate wire rarity Syarzhuk wrote: wire CD -hot -down -train -kix -walking -cable -barb leaves only 50% non-wire stuff in the search results ============== Syarzhuk search pattern is excellent, but I'd make one additional suggestion... 1) Click on the Books, Movies, & Music selection 2) Click on the 'Search only in Books, Movies, Music' box 3) Type in Syarzhuk's search string as listed above and click Search This should get you a pretty concise listing of Wire related stuff. Good Luck Bidders! Cheers, Ray Ciscon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 10:14:05 CDT From: "Laurel G" Subject: RE: 8 tracks >What's an 8-track cartridge? > >giluz I'm sorry - (huge sigh) that just made me feel really old - I'm depressed now the first time I felt this old, was probably 10 years ago - a DJ on the radio asked a 16 year old British girl he had on the phone if she looked like Twiggy - she said "Who?" there's an interesting history of 8 track cartridge technology at: http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~dmorton/8track.html might be too technical for some, but I enjoyed it - I never had an 8 track, went right to cassette - my dad's an engineer, told me not to go 8 track, also told me not to go Beta - two times in my life I actually listened to him, two times in my life I have to admit he was right - people make fun of 8 track now, but it was an important step in making music portable Laurel _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Silber Subject: Wire rarity and such Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:27:29 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >well i've found it. the wire rarity that is going to sort out the men from >the boys and prove for once and for all who has the worst money/sense ratio. >on ebay is a mint condition , still shrinkwrapped , 8-track cartridge of >"pink flag". what a thing to have. i mean , utterly useless , maybe >brilliantly so. i didn't immediately put a bid in (its now at $15) but as i >write this i think i may just have to. there's a picture on the site. didn''t >those things die out years before punk? <> Well, the bid is still 31 clams. What I want to know is, what's the text of that warning sticker? I once saw a copy of the Ramones' Road To Ruin on 8 track - it was at a store in Santa Monica where I dropped much of my money on weird 45s as a kid (early 80s). Probably not more than a buck. Never saw any use for an 8-track (still don't, really). Even if I'd grabbed it, I probably wouldn't have it now. But punk and 8-track did intersect a wee bit. ~joseph =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- <> sagt Joe. <>, sagt ich. <> malachimulligan@excite.com _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:35:53 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > >giluz > >ps - hey Dan - read Vurt already? Sad to say, the only thing I've read lately, besides e-mail & news copy at work, is CD liner notes. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:10:59 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity In a message dated 13/09/00 23:19:26 GMT Daylight Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: << so, what's your technique for locating wire items on ebay? not the easiest to search...as is the case with james. any suggestions from listers would be appreciated :o) >> ///// no , its really easy. do the "advanced search" and choose category "books/music/movies". that'll limit it to about 200 , 3/4 of which will be wire the band. in words to exclude i'd suggest "barb" "barbed" "pamela" (to cut out memorabilia from the pamela anderson movie) "train" (for wire train , must find out what they sound like one day) and "mel and "hawn" to cut out memorabilia from the movie "bird on a wire" (whatever that is). really quick and easy. p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:15:04 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity << Magnificent.....it should be acquired by the wire list as a sacred artifact.....we should bid and bid until it is ours....I'm certainly prepatred to contribute ;-) ////// it is indeed a worthy cause and i may have to go back and bid some more... We'll probably find we're bidding against Colin Newman.... /////// please tell me if it's anyone out there bidding and i won't push it any higher. maybe it's kevin eden , ashamed he never listed this in his discography...... I was in Nashville a couple of years ago and I found a shop that was stacked with 8-tracks - 25c each, in crumbling shrinkwrap. I looked for the worst one I could find. A Mouth & McNeal album (third place in the 1974 Eurovision, pop pickers). It does not contain their hit. /////// er , refresh my memory as to what this hit was? sad to say i don't own any , i really didn't think any punk-era stuff would exist in this form. a "never mind the bollocks" would be fun too. p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:19:43 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) << the thing i can't get over is how some ebay shoppers will pay way over retail for things currently available elsewhere on the net or in 3 dimensional stores! i'll often see a cd on ebay (check out the pink flag cd on there right now!) that i know i can get for 8-10 dollars used or 13-17 new. and here it is on ebay with a bid of like 20 or 25 bucks! as for the 8-track, i dunno. there are avid collectors out there. why? i'm not quite sure... -other paul >> //;//// too true. i mean , i don't mind bidding for things that are genuinely rare but there's a weird mixture of great things going for virtually nothing next to really common stuff going for megabucks. the postage tends to kill a lot of it from the uk anyway. p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:25:12 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity > I was in Nashville a couple of years ago and I found a shop that was stacked >with 8-tracks - 25c each, in crumbling shrinkwrap. I looked for the worst >one I could find. > > A Mouth & McNeal album (third place in the 1974 Eurovision, pop pickers). > It does not contain their hit. > >/////// er , refresh my memory as to what this hit was? How Do You Do. Yes, I own the 7" -- bought it at age 11 or whenever. What's that old saying about branches from forked trees, or something like that ... Dan sad to say i don't >own any , i really didn't think any punk-era stuff would exist in this form. >a "never mind the bollocks" would be fun too. p > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:39:38 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) \ ><< the thing i can't get over is how some ebay shoppers will pay way over >retail > for things currently available elsewhere on the net or in 3 dimensional > stores! i'll often see a cd on ebay (check out the pink flag cd on there > right now!) that i know i can get for 8-10 dollars used or 13-17 new. and > here it is on ebay with a bid of like 20 or 25 bucks! as for the 8-track, i > dunno. there are avid collectors out there. why? i'm not quite sure... > > -other paul > >> >//;//// too true. i mean , i don't mind bidding for things that are genuinely >rare but there's a weird mixture of great things going for virtually nothing >next to really common stuff going for megabucks. the postage tends to kill a >lot of it from the uk anyway. p Which doesn't stop me from going for overseas bargains, like the ACR Thin Boys/All Night Party 7" (which auction somebody from this list may've alerted me to ... if so, infinite thanks) for the equivalent of something like $4, which even with shipping from the UK tacked on is quite a find, at least in my book (a friend had this single back when it was new, & I was lots happier with ACR as a Joy Division clone than as funk wannabes). I've ended up buying tons of vinyl from that guy, including I believe a couple of Passage LPs, 2 Motorcycle Boy 12"s & too many more to even try to summarize. Too, the first Creepers LP is theoretically en route from Greece, assuming my money got there in the first place. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:41:50 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >>giluz >> >>ps - hey Dan - read Vurt already? > > >Sad to say, the only thing I've read lately, besides e-mail & news copy at >work, is CD liner notes. > >Dan Though come to think of it, I *did* recently finally acquire a Manicured Noise record -- the Moscow 7", for $1 (along with another 7" I don't care about ... something like Barbie Goes Around the World, from the late '80s). Isn't that the band Jeff Noon was in an early incarnation of? Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:18:19 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity Dan, Paul, << How Do You Do. Yes, I own the 7" -- bought it at age 11 or whenever. What's that old saying about branches from forked trees, or something like that ... >> Yikes! that's not the one....the Eurovision song was "I see a star" (pronounced I schee a schtar with a heavy Dutch accent). A duo from Holland, Mouth was a demnis Roussos-alike while McNeal was an ageing hippychick....Record included lots of barrel organ. Finished third the year Abba won ('74), and made the UK top 10, which was quite an achievement. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:20:46 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity Dan, << Though come to think of it, I *did* recently finally acquire a Manicured Noise record -- the Moscow 7", for $1 (along with another 7" I don't care about ... something like Barbie Goes Around the World, from the late '80s). Isn't that the band Jeff Noon was in an early incarnation of? >> Yep. Noon's not on either of the records though. You really need the other MN single (Faith/Freetime).... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:24:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) Dan, Paul, Likewise here. I've picked up a lot of good stuff - mainly from the US - including Wire bootlegs and the Michael O'Shea album (thanks to Paul's early warning system)...not bargain basement prices but usually fair rates. The guy buying the Pink Flag 8-track seems to be a dealer.....so perhaps it'll be back at a premium rate...unless we outbid him! Mark << Which doesn't stop me from going for overseas bargains, like the ACR Thin Boys/All Night Party 7" (which auction somebody from this list may've alerted me to ... if so, infinite thanks) for the equivalent of something like $4, which even with shipping from the UK tacked on is quite a find, at least in my book (a friend had this single back when it was new, & I was lots happier with ACR as a Joy Division clone than as funk wannabes). I've ended up buying tons of vinyl from that guy, including I believe a couple of Passage LPs, 2 Motorcycle Boy 12"s & too many more to even try to summarize. Too, the first Creepers LP is theoretically en route from Greece, assuming my money got there in the first place. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 18:21:16 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) In a message dated 14/09/00 22:50:19 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << Likewise here. I've picked up a lot of good stuff - mainly from the US - including Wire bootlegs and the Michael O'Shea album (thanks to Paul's early warning system)...not bargain basement prices but usually fair rates. >> ////////// i've only really played with ebay since early this year and i've picked up most of the wire stuff i really wanted plus a few other bits as well. things like dominoe/not about to die i just never thought i'd get but up they popped. not mega-cheap but let's be realistic , 20 year old bootlegs probably pressed up in a batch of 500..... but some acts go really cheap , i've picked up a couple of things by ultra vivid scene and minimal compact for virtually nothing. mark ; what makes you think mr 8-track is a dealer? p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:32:51 -0500 From: george.m.hook@ac.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity Carl: You beat me to the punch. That's a great site. And, of course, there was the memorable Beavis and Butthead episode, where they destroy their teacher's precious 8-track collection by stuffing them into the VCR and handwashing them. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 19:01:59 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity (Ebay sucks!) Paul, << but some acts go really cheap , i've picked up a couple of things by ultra vivid scene and minimal compact for virtually nothing. UVS are great! >>mark ; what makes you think mr 8-track is a dealer? p >> He has lots of feedback from people who have bought from him....300-plus items. So he's a heavy Ebay user at the least..... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 21:02:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: The Fall @ RFH 22/9/00 Giluz, << Oh god, I wish I could, but I just got back from vacation last week, and am considering going to Vienna in November to see TransAm. Is this a regular Fall gig or a kinda special evening like the Wire RFH gig - << It's a John Peel "curated" event with Dick Dale on the bill too...not sure who's headlining even - though it had better be the Fall.... >>Maybe anyone who's ever been to the Fall for 5 minutes would appear, and at the end they'll all go up to the stage to sing Hip Priest together a-la-BandAid style, and the stage will collapse? That would be an appropriate ending for the Fall, innit? >> Now THAT I would like to see.....but there is no end to the Fall....MES will be doing this when he's collecting his pension... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:03:35 +0100 From: Mark Short Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > in words to exclude i'd suggest "barb" "barbed" "pamela" (to > cut out memorabilia from the pamela anderson movie) "train" (for wire train , > must find out what they sound like one day) I don't know what Wire Train sound like, but they've always annoyed me by turning up in the 'W' bins while I'm searching for new Wire product. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 03:09:30 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: ultimate wire rarity >PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: >> in words to exclude i'd suggest "barb" "barbed" "pamela" (to >> cut out memorabilia from the pamela anderson movie) "train" (for wire train , >> must find out what they sound like one day) > >I don't know what Wire Train sound like, but they've always annoyed me by >turning up in the 'W' bins while I'm searching for new Wire product.<< Mid-'80s SoCal earnest "college rock," if memory serves, a la The Call & Translator. A fairly anonymous lot, looking back, with about 1 good single in each of 'em that probably got a bit of MTV airing (Translator's was Everywhere That I'm Not, The Call's The Walls Came Down ... couldn't tell you Wire Train's, but I'm sure they had one). Dan ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #281 *******************************