From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #252 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, August 16 2000 Volume 03 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The First Record [Dave Walker ] re Womblespedding [alan gray ] re Womblespedding [alan gray ] RE: re Womblespedding ["giluz" ] RE: music on car advert's ["Ciscon, Ray" ] Re: First Record [george.m.hook@ac.com] RE: First Record ["giluz" ] Re: First Record ["lucifersam" ] Re: First Record ["lucifersam" ] Re: First Record ["tube disaster" ] Gilbert the Fly [=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= ] Re: Gilbert the Fly ["rabwin" ] RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #251 ["wiremailorder.com" ] RE: Gilbert the Fly ["giluz" ] RE: Gilbert the Fly ["giluz" ] RE: re Womblespedding ["giluz" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:06:08 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: The First Record Somehow I omitted mentioning that Wire's _The Ideal Copy_ (my first Wire purchase, originally on cassette) was my first CD. Bought at the same time were Propaganda's _A Secret Wish_, Love & Rockets _Express_ and _Seventh Dream of Teenage Heaven_. -d.w. on 8/14/00 11:29 AM, Dave Walker at marmoset@howlermonkey.net wrote: > First album: Parliament's _Mothership Connection_ > first album bought with earned money: B-52's debut album > > first live show: er, um, Yes in 1983 > > -d.w. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:54:37 -0400 (EDT) From: alan gray Subject: re Womblespedding >The Wombles once played between games of a doubleheader at >Yankee Stadium >that I attended! And on top of that, I knew who they were. >Couldn't figure >out which one was Spedding though. Anyone have recommendations >about good >70's pre punk Spedding? I'm thinking "Guitar Jamboree" and that >ilk. I'm probably wrong but, Was it Chris Spedding who had that single 'MotorBikin' "Movin on the Queens high way lookin like a streak'o'lightnin" Or am I confused with another single 'blue jeans' some one who kept pulling their jeans on and then went 'motorbike ridin in the sun and the wind and the rain' (needed Belstaffs for that at the time) Alan - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: alan gray Subject: re Womblespedding >The Wombles once played between games of a doubleheader at >Yankee Stadium >that I attended! And on top of that, I knew who they were. >Couldn't figure >out which one was Spedding though. Anyone have recommendations >about good >70's pre punk Spedding? I'm thinking "Guitar Jamboree" and that >ilk. I'm probably wrong but, Was it Chris Spedding who had that single 'MotorBikin' "Movin on the Queens high way lookin like a streak'o'lightnin" Or am I confused with another single 'blue jeans' some one who kept pulling their jeans on and then went 'motorbike ridin in the sun and the wind and the rain' (needed Belstaffs for that at the time) Alan - ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:10:24 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: re Womblespedding > I'm probably wrong but, > Was it Chris Spedding who had that single > 'MotorBikin' > "Movin on the Queens high way > lookin like a streak'o'lightnin" > > Or am I confused with another single 'blue jeans' > some one who kept pulling their jeans on and then went > 'motorbike ridin in the sun and the wind and the rain' > (needed Belstaffs for that at the time) > > Alan > Yeah, that was him alright. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:52:34 -0500 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: music on car advert's Rob Warnock wrote: I still think the worst is the ad that uses "What Do I Get?" by the Buzzcocks. I'm not sure what car it's for. Some SUV or another. I LOVE THAT COMMERCIAL! It's the guy with the bear 'riding shotgun' in the SUV with him! I'd much rather hear the Buzzcocks than Michael Jackson or Billy Joel! Plus, I think that the portion of the song lyrics we hear go along rather well with the commercial. Cheers, Ray ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:22:48 -0500 From: george.m.hook@ac.com Subject: Re: First Record First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:37:49 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: First Record My 1st punk record: Siouxie's Scream 1st (worthy) gig: Minimal Compact 1984 or 1985 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of george.m.hook@ac.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 4:23 PM > To: rabwin > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: First Record > > > > First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:51:47 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: First Record First Punk record for me.-"Anarchy in the UK" Le Cat Siamese > > First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:07:27 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: First Record Did I bore everyone with my tale of seeing The Saints and Wire on the same bill in '77..... Great track though! > First Punk record for me: (I'm) Stranded, by the Saints > > > >From: "lucifersam" > >Reply-To: "lucifersam" > >To: , "rabwin" > >CC: > >Subject: Re: First Record > >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:51:47 +0100 > > > > First Punk record for me.-"Anarchy in the UK" > > Le Cat Siamese > > > > > > > > > > First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:15:16 -0500 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: First Record For me, Richard Hell & the VoidOids' Blank Generation. The fact that it had a Creedence cover, Walk on the Water, I took as a good omen (as I didn't know it when I made the purchase), as they were my favorite band as a kid. Dan >First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:18:33 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= Subject: Gilbert the Fly 'I am a fly called Gilbert and I live by a pond, a stagnant pond in a bird sanctuary.' So begins the story 'The E(rot)ic Potato' from 'The Angel' by Patrick McGrath... was he into Wire? Is this just a coincidence? Anyone know? Should we read the stagnant pond as a metaphor for rock music? Today I went record shopping for the first time in months and picked up discs by David Grubbs, John Zorn, Holger Czukay, Silo, Pablo's Eye, Subarachnoid Space and Walking Timebombs, Dr Who/BBC Radiophonic Workshop 70-80, Magnog, Doldrums, Jon Rose, Fushitsusha, MIka Vainio/Charlemagne Palestine/Pita, Pelt and last and most likely least, the 3 month old Sonic Youth album with the William Burroughs painting on the cover. I only really wanted to get the new Shellac and Philip Jeck discs, both of which were out of stock everywhere in Manchester. Swim Team is going for only a quid in Vinyl Exchange! Actually the Doldrums CD was only a quid too. Hope it's as good as their first album. Anyone going to see the Dirty 3 when they play here on Thursday evening? Lock up your ponds, Fibreglass Messiah ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:18:32 +0100 From: "rabwin" Subject: Re: First Record > > > > > > First punk record for me: Television's "Marquee Moon" >>>>>you know one of my biggest disappointments in recent years was mr verlaines "performance" with patti smith in london 96. now on paper that looked great. but he looked barely awake , sat down for most of the set. and no "break it up" either. bummer.p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:24:06 +0100 From: "rabwin" Subject: Re: Gilbert the Fly > Anyone going to see the Dirty 3 when they play here on > Thursday evening? ////// they were the support on the last pj harvey tour. pretty , er , "atonal" on the night i saw em. didn't really do much for me ; are the records any good? anyway , polly has a new album out in october. apart from wire she's about the only act who i'd rush out and by a new single of without hearing it. amazing live too ; i'd recommend her without reservation. usually takes a great tour support out too.p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:26:47 -0500 From: "wiremailorder.com" Subject: RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #251 First Album "Yes Fragile" First Live Show "Genesis" charles > > First album: Parliament's _Mothership Connection_ > > first album bought with earned money: B-52's debut album > > > > first live show: er, um, Yes in 1983 > > First Album: Slade alive ... with a VERY loud belch of (probably) Noddy > Holder on it .. ;-)) > > First Live Show: Led Zeppelin ... in 1973 in Nuernberg/Bavaria > > Frank > > ------------------------------ > > End of idealcopy-digest V3 #251 > ******************************* > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:28:32 +0100 From: "rabwin" Subject: Re: re Womblespedding > I'm probably wrong but, > Was it Chris Spedding who had that single > 'MotorBikin' > "Movin on the Queens high way > lookin like a streak'o'lightnin" > > Or am I confused with another single 'blue jeans' > some one who kept pulling their jeans on and then went > 'motorbike ridin in the sun and the wind and the rain' > (needed Belstaffs for that at the time) > > Alan //////// nope , spedding did "motorbikin". they showed it on "supersonic" about 2 weeks ago (currently being re-run on that fab channel granada plus). rumours were that he assisted the pistols , i don't actually believe that one though. but he did produce some early demos and made them sound like pub rockers with a funky bass player. oi , spedding , NO , as one might have to say.p (still wondering where that toyah slagging vanished to?) ...........and "jeans on" was by david dundas. but there's nothing interesting to say about him. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:17:13 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Gilbert the Fly > Today I went record shopping for the first time in > months and picked up discs by David Grubbs, John Zorn, > Holger Czukay, Silo, Pablo's Eye, Subarachnoid Space > and Walking Timebombs, Dr Who/BBC Radiophonic Workshop > 70-80, Magnog, Doldrums, Jon Rose, Fushitsusha, MIka > Vainio/Charlemagne Palestine/Pita, Pelt and last and > most likely least, the 3 month old Sonic Youth album > with the William Burroughs painting on the cover. I > only really wanted to get the new Shellac and Philip > Jeck discs, both of which were out of stock everywhere > in Manchester. > What Zorn, Czukay albums? Who are Pita & Charlemagne Palestine? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:20:16 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Gilbert the Fly > > anyway , polly has a new album out in october. apart from wire she's about > the only act who i'd rush out and by a new single of without hearing it. > amazing live too ; i'd recommend her without reservation. usually takes a > great tour support out too.p > Saw her supporting Robyn Hitchcock just before the release of her 1st album. She was quite excited and insecure, got electricuted by her microphone at the middle of the 2nd song. This kinda released the tension and she was fucking wicked since then. Accompanying band was great too, I don't know why people slag them off. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:25:00 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: re Womblespedding > rumours were that he assisted the pistols , i don't actually believe that > one though. but he did produce some early demos and made them > sound like pub > rockers with a funky bass player. oi , spedding , NO , as one > might have to > say.p (still wondering where that toyah slagging vanished to?) > He did produce some SP demos, and I think he's credited somewhere on Don't Mind the Bollocks. According to what I heard he didn't get a chance to do much before quitting, but the Pistols used his name just for publicity (Chris Spedding - publicity? Something must be wrong here, even Malcolm Mclaren isn't that daft. Probably just a myth). Still, Spedding's collaborations in other people's albums, including Eno and Cale, among many others, are certainly the highlights of his career. giluz ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #252 *******************************