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idealcopy-digest       Saturday, August 12 2000       Volume 03 : Number 248



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: The First Record                                    [MarkBursa@aol.com]
  First record                        ["Wilson, Paul" <P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk>]
  Re: First record             [Anthony Clough <rys01ajc@scorpio.gold.ac.uk>]
  Re Stock Hausen & Walkman.                [alan gray <alan_gray@email.com>]
  RE: Re[2]: toyah              ["Parker, Steve" <steve.parker@BBRAIL.CO.UK>]
  Re: Stock, Hausan and Walkman                       [timrobinson@cwcom.net]
  Re: Stock, Hausan and Walkman                           [MarkBursa@aol.com]
  Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #247                  ["dMc" <dmack2002@yahoo.com>]
  Re First Records                          [alan gray <alan_gray@email.com>]
  Re: The First Record          ["tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>]
  First albums                   [Joseph Silber <malachimulligan@excite.com>]
  Re: The First Record            [Stephen Harper <stephen_harper@yahoo.com>]
  Re: The First Record               ["lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>]
  Re: Re First Records               ["lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>]
  First records.                          [John Roberts <jarobert@dmu.ac.uk>]
  Re: The First Record          ["stephen graziano" <sjgraziano@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman         [Aaron Mandel <aaron@eecs.harvard.edu>]
  Re: Re First Records                                    [MarkBursa@aol.com]
  Re: Re First Records               ["lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>]
  Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman  [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey <jenor@csd.uwm.edu]
  Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman             ["Stephen Jackson" <smj@zen.co.uk>]
  1st record          ["Andrew Lumbard" <andrew@thelumbards.freeserve.co.uk>]
  Re: Re First Records                                    [MarkBursa@aol.com]
  So called Manchester 'scene'  [=?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= <crackedm]
  Re: So called Manchester 'scene'  ["tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.]
  Re: First records.            ["tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>]
  Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman   ["tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>]
  Re: First records.                         [Carl Archer <notcarl@home.com>]
  SV: Re First Records  ["=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kansson=2C_Anders?=" <anders.ha]
  Re: Re First Records                    ["Gary Turner" <gturner@tstar.net>]
  Re: First records.          [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey <jenor@csd.uwm.edu>]
  Re: First records.                 ["lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>]

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:47:55 EDT
From: MarkBursa@aol.com
Subject: Re: The First Record

Mark,

<< The Beatles' 1962-1966 compilation, the red one with the Fabs leaning over 
the
 bannister in the EMI building. Bought it around 1974. The first 
"contemporary"
 record I bought was Sparks' "Kimono My House".
 </XMP> >>

You could afford ALBUMS!?!!?!

For the record, my first long-player was Ziggy Stardust. In fact, the first 
three albums I bought were all Bowie albums.

Mark

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:49:04 +0100
From: "Wilson, Paul" <P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk>
Subject: First record

This is a bit embarrassing, but the first record I bought with my own money,
was the album "Hope You Like It" by Geordie (which I've still got), in 1973
(I was just 13). And no, I don't want to sell it!!!

The first record I had bought for me, was "Tracy" - a single by The
Cufflinks. I asked for "Sugar Sugar" by The Archies (?), but it had sold
out, so my mum bought me the record which was at number 2 in the charts at
the time! 

Paul KW

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:54:23 +0100 ()
From: Anthony Clough <rys01ajc@scorpio.gold.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: First record

Hi,

My first record was Kraftwerk's Autobahn in 74. This set me thinking about
my listening habits as a small boy in the late 60's. Lot of us listened to
pretty awful kids radio which was made up of of "suitable" material
consisting of middle-of-the-road stuff, a few hits of the day and novelty
records. Looking back the latter were invaluable as they almost invariably
involved some kind of sound effects/electronics/tape manipulation and I'm
pretty sure this was what set me on the path after audio exotica which
I've been on ever since - by 15 I was obsessed with Stockhausen.

Tony.  

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:55:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: alan gray <alan_gray@email.com>
Subject: Re Stock Hausen & Walkman.

I refer to the Stock Hausen and Walkman reply from Graeme Rowland,its
extensive,have a look belowe if you have n't seen it.
I wanted to say cheers for the info' I've been slow off the mark in getting
more stuff by people on the compo' CD I have, which I've recommended on the
list before.

Any information on 'SchneiderTM' would be equally well recieved.

The track I have is 'Homerun Ubershow'. Described as a remix of elements of
'homespin rerun','showstop hiphop' and 'over the river'
To me It's superb and also very funny,and gets better rather than boring the
more you play it. (I play it in the car a lot).

Alan
PS The Hairballs furry cover sounds an excellent idea. Not much chance of
the CD cover self cracking on the journey home from the shop.
- -----------------------------------------------
Alan Gray wanted Stock, Hausen & Walkman info and I am
the man to ask since I have all their albums except
the new one. Id recommend 'Hairballs', a hilarious
mish-mash which originally came packaged in a nice
fluffy mitten. It happens to include slightly reworked
and retitled versions of their cuts from DEconstruct,
so if you want to hear Steve Albini's guitar like you
never heard it before, check it out! All their
releases are on Matt Wand's Hot Air label and should
be easily available via These in London or Pelicanneck
in Manchester. If you like Hairballs you'll probably
also like the live disc 'Stop!'

Their first Cd release, 'Giving up with Stock, H & W'
is a bit more primitive and is chock full of naggingly
familiar samples. I was annoyed for days by bass lines
I couldn't quite place which turned out to be from Can
and Gang of 4. They've also nicked chunks of Nirvana,
the fall and Alternative TV. Never spotted any Wire,
but Matt Wand did play my favourite single 'A Question
of Degree' in a DJ set a couple of years ago. More
recently he waved an ear shaped piece of bubblegum at
me and said, 'Eardrum Buzz.'

Dan Weaver, who played on these first three CD's, has
given me a couple of tracks to use on the Cd
compilation which I'm going to put out with 'Cracked
Machine' #2. He's recently been playing in a duo with
Mild Man Jan called Mr B and Mr Q. Jan makes a box
using welders and tools (lots of sparhs flying) from
unlikely objects (best one was an old mixing desk) and
Dan records him working and processes it all in his
computer. They burn a unique CD of the performance,
put it in the box and sell it to the highest bidder.
They work really well in places where people aren't
expecting it...

Since he left the Wand & Sharpley duo have put out
their answer to the dancefloor crazes sweeping the
fields, 'Oh my bag!' and a couple of installments of
easy listening butchery 'Organ Transplants 1 & 2' ,
not to mention the excellent 'Venetian Deer" 10" which
I think has been rereleased as a CD with bonus cuts
from out of print singlles. The recent stuff is in
general more refined and not quite so laugh a minute
(hardly Swans or Joy Division though!). Matt Wand
plays out in Manchester fairly often, DJing or with
other improvisers. He always does something different
which is the whole point I suppose. One time he
molested a plastic budgie in a cage and fed the noises
into his computer which made some more noises. Lucky
he didn't put that on a CD, or as we all know it
wouldn't have been music! :)

When you see the cover of 'Hairballs' you will know
why I urge you to lock up your cats!!!!
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:21:02 +0100
From: "Parker, Steve" <steve.parker@BBRAIL.CO.UK>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: toyah

Wasn't it called "Sunday All Over the World" (Toyah now Mrs Fripp +
Fripp(centre of the universe = Wimborne) + Troy ???) - They played the T&C
about 2years ago in London - pretty crap really.
Steve

- -----Original Message-----
From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com [mailto:paul.rabjohn@ssab.com]
Sent: 09 August 2000 10:58
To: idealcopy@smoe.org; dmack2002@yahoo.com
Subject: Re[2]: toyah



i heard a rumour (unconfirmed), that ms. wilcox is the narrator of
teletubbies
(all we do is send acid rain and global warming - but YOU send us the
teletubbies - i ain't fair)

>>>>> apparently she is the voice of one of the teletubbies (no i don't know
which one). possibly the artistic highlight of her sad career.

now i know we have some closet king crimson fans in here somewhere. what on
earth was that "fripp fripp" thing she did with robert f like? i gave it a
wide berth ; was it the usual toyah garbage? p

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:39:05 +0100
From: timrobinson@cwcom.net
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausan and Walkman

>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:28:37 +0100 (BST)
>From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= 
>Subject: Stock, Hausen & Walkman
>
>Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he
>bought with his own money. I'd be interested to know
>what other Idealists got first - mine was the theme
>music to Dr Who!

Mine was also a TV tie in. It was 'Do you wanna be a winner' by Brown Sauce..a
kids TV supergroup consisting of Noel Edmonds, Maggie Philbin and Cheggers!
It had the Swap Shop theme on the B-side (by BA 'bang-bang' Robertson). 
..this will mean bugger all to any listees who didn't grow up in the UK in the
early 80s.
Not a great choice of first record but I never believe these people who say
the first record they bought was 20th Century Boy or God Save the Queen....

>
>Dan Weaver, who played on these first three CD's, has
 recently been playing in a duo with
>Mild Man Jan called Mr B and Mr Q. Jan makes a box
>using welders and tools (lots of sparhs flying) from
>unlikely objects (best one was an old mixing desk) and
>Dan records him working and processes it all in his
>computer. They burn a unique CD of the performance,
>put it in the box and sell it to the highest bidder.
>They work really well in places where people aren't
>expecting it... 


Its true folks! I played on the same bill as these once and they flouted Health
and Safety regulations like crazy! Risk of industrial industry is the new rock
and roll. 
Still they make a refreshing change the from the rest of Manchesters current
musical output which consists of the usual Oasis soundalikes, Alfie (horrid
dopey whimsy....yuck!) and the Badly Drawn Boy (disgracefully overhyped, overpaid
talentless little git with a tea cosy on his head and looks like an attempt
to cross-breed the singer from the Eeels with Gary Mallet from Coronation Street)....oh
and the Buzzcocks!

More power to B&Q I say. Drill Drill Drill!

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:46:39 EDT
From: MarkBursa@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausan and Walkman

Tim,

<< Not a great choice of first record but I never believe these people who say
 the first record they bought was 20th Century Boy or God Save the Queen.... 
>>

Just face facts....other people are cooler than you ;-)

Mark

It was Get it on, not 20th Century Boy.....49p from the Disc Centre in Lytham 
St Annes (RIP).

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:54:42 -0500
From: "dMc" <dmack2002@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #247

> > Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he
> > bought with his own money. I'd be interested to know
> > what other Idealists got first - mine was the theme
> > music to Dr Who!
Santana-Santana
The Kinks-Arthur

neither of which currently resides on ms shelves, but there is yet some
santana and no kinks

david - whose collection is organized alphabetically by artist or composer
where appropriate
and even with this one distinction - i have problems
does anyone know what the difference between hard house, happy house and
hard happy house is?
the guys at gramaphone in Chi do, but i am still bemused
and i have yet to figure out where the acid or the jazz is in acid jazz -
but it seems to harken more to norman connors than john coltrane


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:13:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: alan gray <alan_gray@email.com>
Subject: Re First Records

First single was probably
Seven seas of rye, Queen
If you don't count clubbing together with my sister for,
Ernie,Benny Hill and we also bought 'Entertaining Mr Sloan'
by Georgie Fame. God knows why.
First LP?
(Again if you don't count the top of the pops LPs,
all cover versions by the mike sam swingers
withs Sam's swingers barely covered, on the cover)
It was The Faust Tapes.

Alan


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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:42:59 -0500
From: "tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: The First Record

First album -- Simon & Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water (because of a
serious weakness for Cecilia), for godssakes. Single ... god only knows.
Possibly Instant Karma.

Dan


>Graeme Rowland wrote:
>>
>> Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he
>> bought with his own money. I'd be interested to know
>> what other Idealists got first - mine was the theme
>> music to Dr Who!
>>
>
>The Beatles' 1962-1966 compilation, the red one with the Fabs leaning over
the
>bannister in the EMI building. Bought it around 1974. The first
"contemporary"
>record I bought was Sparks' "Kimono My House".

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph Silber <malachimulligan@excite.com>
Subject: First albums

Graeme Rowland wrote: 
> 
> Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he 
> bought with his own money. I'd be interested to know 
> what other Idealists got first - mine was the theme 
> music to Dr Who! 
> 
Mark Short wrote:

- -The Beatles' 1962-1966 compilation, the red one with the Fabs leaning over
the 
- -bannister in the EMI building. Bought it around 1974. The first
"contemporary" 
- -record I bought was Sparks' "Kimono My House". 

Ah, the beatles. My first was Abbey Road (for Octopus's Garden) in '77.  I
generally don't admit the cheap knockoff of the Saturday Night Fever
soundtrack I got the same day. I was all of 10, so maybe I can be forgiven
that lapse. (Oh, wait.  I still have a tape of that - the proper ST, not the
cheap knockoff.)

Not sure what my first "contemporary" would be. Kings of the Wild Frontier
maybe?  

My wife, at age 32, is back in college and finishing up prerequisites for
her MA. Recently, she found herself chatting about music with some new
undergrads about the first CDs each bought.  Universally it was Nevermind,
which came out when these kids were 11,12,13.  For Zoe (the wife in
question), it was Dark Side of the Moon - on vinyl. 

~joseph of a sunnysummersanfranciscofriday. 

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<<Ja>>, sagt ich. <<Ein bisschen von der Spitze.>>

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:55:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephen Harper <stephen_harper@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The First Record

Mine was Ghosts by Japan in 1981. My mother
thought I was mad, as I was only ten years old! I
still think it's an astonishingly powerful
record.

s

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:48:43 +0100
From: "lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: The First Record

   And proud of the fact you should be sir!


> For the record, my first long-player was Ziggy Stardust. In fact, the
first
> three albums I bought were all Bowie albums.
>
> Mark
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:06:08 +0100
From: "lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Re First Records

  This is a difficult frey to enter....memories going...Hmmmm
   1st single...my sister took me to buy 'Twist and Shout' by the fabs
   in Walthamstow High St, when I was 4....and I got "Help" (LP)
   from my sister in law when it came out.
   As for off my own back.....Hm.....
   Single wise I think it was 'Double Barrell' by Dave and Ansil Collins.
   LP wise....Um...."Slade Alive" by..Um...Slade.....

   Le Cat Siamese....
   For the record...First live 'Gig'...Slade @ Earls Court july4th 1973
   Supported by Sensational Alex Harvey Band......




> First single was probably
> Seven seas of rye, Queen
> If you don't count clubbing together with my sister for,
> Ernie,Benny Hill and we also bought 'Entertaining Mr Sloan'
> by Georgie Fame. God knows why.
> First LP?
> (Again if you don't count the top of the pops LPs,
> all cover versions by the mike sam swingers
> withs Sam's swingers barely covered, on the cover)
> It was The Faust Tapes.
> 
> Alan
> 
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:13:15 +0100 (BST)
From: John Roberts <jarobert@dmu.ac.uk>
Subject: First records.

First single I actually bought by walking into a record shop and handing
over my own pocket money was Boomtown Rats 'Like Clockwork'.  Although we
had some singles that were joint property of me and my brother and sister
- - including such gems as the Wombles 'Remember You're A Womble', David
Cassidy '?', and The Goodies 'Black Pudding Bertha' (I can imagine the
puzzled looks in the US at this one.)  First album I had as a xmas pressie
was the Rats again Tonic for the Troops.  The first one I actually paid
for with my own cash would have been The Great Rock n Roll Swindle double.
I bought it in Cob Records, Portmadog on a school trip to Wales using all
of my entire week's pocket money.  My parents weren't impressed - esp when
they saw the naked girl on the sleeve.


John Roberts
> 
> << Not a great choice of first record but I never believe these people who say
>  the first record they bought was 20th Century Boy or God Save the Queen.... 

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:28:48 EDT
From: "stephen graziano" <sjgraziano@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: The First Record

My first record was the "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" 45 by Paul McCartney.  
My first album was (on cassette) Lennon's "Mind Games" of which I was very 
nervous, sure that it would stink based on his media/public image at the 
time.  It has grown to be a favorite, probably because of the intense 
emotional imprint it made upon me, as I got through song after song and 
found that they were not only good, but heartfealt, and in the case of "Free 
the People" - kick ass.
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:58:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Aaron Mandel <aaron@eecs.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman

On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Graeme Rowland wrote:

> Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he bought with his own
> money. I'd be interested to know what other Idealists got first - mine
> was the theme music to Dr Who!

first recording bought with my own money was a tape of Information
Society's first album. i don't remember what possessed me, only that i'd
been listening to the radio avidly for five years and had never before
thought of even going into a record store.

eight months later, i bought my first CD -- Chairs Missing!

a

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:38:16 EDT
From: MarkBursa@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re First Records

Cat,

<< For the record...First live 'Gig'...Slade @ Earls Court july4th 1973
    Supported by Sensational Alex Harvey Band...... >>

Mine was Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel at Preston Guildhall, about january 75. 
Supported by Sailor.

Mark

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:43:11 +0100
From: "lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Re First Records

  Ah! Heady days young Mark....memories are made of this.....and power
cuts.....3 day week.....
  it always used to snow more then too....25p for a pint of 'Ben'........25%
inflation......Bay City Rollers
  Man Utd fans on the rampage.....Sweet on a 'Teenage
Rampage'.......FLARES!!!!!!!!!!!eeekkkk


> Cat,
>
> << For the record...First live 'Gig'...Slade @ Earls Court july4th 1973
>     Supported by Sensational Alex Harvey Band...... >>
>
> Mine was Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel at Preston Guildhall, about january
75.
> Supported by Sailor.
>
> Mark
>

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:33:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey <jenor@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman

> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Graeme Rowland wrote:
> 
> > Mark Bursa recently mentioned the first record he bought with his own
> > money. I'd be interested to know what other Idealists got first - mine
> > was the theme music to Dr Who!

Hmmm...I'm not quite sure here, since I don't remember which I bought with
my own money (I was a kid, hey).

Options R:

whatever the album (!) with "In the Year 2525" was, by Zager & Evans
_Billion Dollar Babies_ by Alice Cooper
_Tommy James & the Shondells Greatest Hits_ (for "Crimson & Clover" -
which I still love)

First record I can remember listening to over and over again:
_Beatles VI_ (American release) - my parents' copy - marked me for life.
(Note that when I first heard _Sgt. Pepper_ at age 6 or so, it frightened
me - esp. "Within You Without You"!)

First CD: _Organisation_ by OMD (in 1986)

- --Jeff

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::This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing....
::As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world.
__Neal Stephenson, SNOW CRASH__

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:43:14 +0100
From: "Stephen Jackson" <smj@zen.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman

First single: Judas Priest- "Take on the World"
Next 2 singles: XTC- "Making Plans For Nigel", Sham 69- "Questions and
Answers"

First album: "Grease" soundtrack.
Next album : Adam and the Ants- "Kings of the Wild Frontier"

First cd (amazingly) : Wire- "The Ideal Copy"

Steve.
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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:49:19 +0100
From: "Andrew Lumbard" <andrew@thelumbards.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: 1st record

My first record bought with my own money - "No Matter What" by Badfinger.
First album - "Aqualung" Jethro Tull
First record of the punk era, and the subsequent change in my listening
habits was a joint purchase - "Cranked Up Really High" - Slaughter & the
Dogs and "Chinese Rocks" - Johnny Thunders

AndyL

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:46:52 EDT
From: MarkBursa@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re First Records

Heheheh!!!

Sounds like an extract from 'The Osmonds' by Denim, when Lawrence starts on 
about how  'Lieutenant Pigeon hit the scene....and Paper Lace....and 
Candlewick Green!' 

Genius!

Mark

<< Ah! Heady days young Mark....memories are made of this.....and power
 cuts.....3 day week.....
   it always used to snow more then too....25p for a pint of 'Ben'........25%
 inflation......Bay City Rollers
   Man Utd fans on the rampage.....Sweet on a 'Teenage
 Rampage'.......FLARES!!!!!!!!!!!eeekkkk >>

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:52:07 +0100 (BST)
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Graeme=20Rowland?= <crackedmachine@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: So called Manchester 'scene'

Tim Robinson wrote
>>Still they make a refreshing change from the rest of
Manchesters current musical output which consists of
the usual Oasis soundalikes, Alfie (horrid dopey
whimsy....yuck!) and the Badly Drawn Boy
(disgracefully overhyped, overpaid talentless little
git with a tea cosy on his head and looks like an
attempt to cross-breed the singer from the Eeels with
Gary Mallet from Coronation Street)....oh and the
Buzzcocks!<<

Haa Ha aha he he! & a few hos in case Ice Cube's on da
list!
Agreed on all of the above except you forgot the good
stuff! What about the Fall, V/vm, Speedranch, Acid Al,
Bess Keloid, Disco Operating Systems, Stray Light,
Dumb, Gabrielle's Wish, b-fab UK and quite likely a
few others who slip my mind? Also I was told that
Steve Gears (the 'Ahead' sampler on Swim Team comp) is
from round these parts. OK so none of these play out
all that often but...

The Fall are doing a free gig on Sunday night (8.40pm)
in Castlefield Arena! Buzzcocks too - hope they play
the old stuff, not the crap they did since they
reformed. Anyone on the list going? 

Incidentally I gave my promo copy of the Badly Drawn
Boy CD to Bess Keloid and he took it to Vinyl Exchange
to swap for the last Sonic Youth CD - a nigh on 
improvement I'll bet!

Also Alfie are Oasis sound alikes are they not? Oh
well all these retro britpap wankers sound the same to
me - I mean how do they manage to water down Oasis?

We'll put them down in the dark gross chapel!
Fibreglass Messiah

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:31:36 -0500
From: "tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: So called Manchester 'scene'

>The Fall are doing a free gig on Sunday night (8.40pm)
>in Castlefield Arena! Buzzcocks too - hope they play
>the old stuff, not the crap they did since they
>reformed.

Oh, the Buzzcocks' first post-reunion album, Trade Test Transmission, was
remarkably good under those circumstances. The 2nd one, All Set, was rather
drab. Third one, Modern, is somewhere between the 2.

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:30:02 -0500
From: "tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: First records.

- -Although we
>had some singles that were joint property of me and my brother and sister
>- including such gems as the Wombles 'Remember You're A Womble', David
>Cassidy '?', and The Goodies 'Black Pudding Bertha' (I can imagine the
>puzzled looks in the US at this one.)

Oh, not really ... the Goodies' show used to air on PBS stations over here
back around 1980. I saw only a couple, but will probably never get over one
about a plague of Rolf Harrises devastating the countryside (esp. since Tie
Me Kangaroo Down Sport is the first song I can ever remember hearing, back
when I was 3 or 4).

Dan

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Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:37:29 -0500
From: "tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Stock, Hausen & Walkman

>First record I can remember listening to over and over again:
>_Beatles VI_ (American release) - my parents' copy - marked me for life.
>(Note that when I first heard _Sgt. Pepper_ at age 6 or so, it frightened
>me - esp. "Within You Without You"!)


A couple of years before I started buying records on my own, a 2-years-older
cousin who'd tired of them (I think she'd gotten heavily into Elvis by then)
gave me her old, beat-up copies of the Hard Days Night LP & 3 7"s --
Help/I'm Down & the Stones' Satisfaction & 19th Nervous Breakdown. Utterly
life-altering.

First CD? Probably the Nothing Short of Total War comp on Blast First,
bought used a few weeks before I had the means to play it.

Dan

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:10:56 -0400
From: Carl Archer <notcarl@home.com>
Subject: Re: First records.

This is really, really embarrassing...

First record purchased with money given to me by my father: "I Love A Rainy
Night" single by Eddie Rabbit

First purchased with money from working a real job: "Sorry Ma, Forgot To
Take Out The Trash" by The Replacements

Embarrassed about Eddie Rabbit, not all about The Replacements.

- -Carl

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:37:01 +0200
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?H=E5kansson=2C_Anders?=" <anders.hakansson_i_surte@telia.com>
Subject: SV: Re First Records

My first LP was Kiss, Destroyer...
My first CDs, however was the first issue of Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154.
I wanted the extra tracks badly, even though i did not even have a CD player!

/Anders  


>Heheheh!!!
>
>Sounds like an extract from 'The Osmonds' by Denim, when Lawrence starts on 
>about how  'Lieutenant Pigeon hit the scene....and Paper Lace....and 
>Candlewick Green!' 
>
>Genius!
>
>Mark
>
><< Ah! Heady days young Mark....memories are made of this.....and power
> cuts.....3 day week.....
>   it always used to snow more then too....25p for a pint of 'Ben'........25%
> inflation......Bay City Rollers
>   Man Utd fans on the rampage.....Sweet on a 'Teenage
> Rampage'.......FLARES!!!!!!!!!!!eeekkkk >>

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:06:37 -0500
From: "Gary Turner" <gturner@tstar.net>
Subject: Re: Re First Records

My first record was "Metal Health" by Quiet Riot.  I bought it from a
Wal-Mart in a small town in texas when I was nine.
The first record I ever had bought for me as Frampton Comes Alive, although
I was told by my parents that it was Neil Diamond because I was apparently a
big fan.

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:21:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey <jenor@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: First records.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, Carl Archer wrote:

> Embarrassed about Eddie Rabbit, not all about The Replacements.

Sorry, I just can't see Clint Eastwood as Paul Westerberg.

- --Jeff

J e f f r e y   N o r m a n
The Architectural Dance Society
www.uwm.edu/~jenor/reviews.html
::This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing....
::As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world.
__Neal Stephenson, SNOW CRASH__

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:08:29 +0100
From: "lucifersam" <lucifersam@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: First records.

  I can see that this discussion is turning into some sort of cathartic
confessional.! ;-)


> This is really, really embarrassing...
>
> First record purchased with money given to me by my father: "I Love A
Rainy
> Night" single by Eddie Rabbit
>
> First purchased with money from working a real job: "Sorry Ma, Forgot To
> Take Out The Trash" by The Replacements
>
> Embarrassed about Eddie Rabbit, not all about The Replacements.
>
> -Carl
>
>

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