From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #239 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, August 3 2000 Volume 03 : Number 239 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) [Chris.Ray@medas.] RE: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) ["giluz" ] Re: Favourite videos [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: Favourite videos [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: Did You Know? - Do You Care? [Carl Archer ] Re: Favpourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) [Carl Archer ] Re videos [Alan Gray ] Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) ["Katherine Pouli] Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) [Nik ] Re: fave vids [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Favourite Videos (bjork) [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Mark Romanek (was Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) [Nik] Re: black lace/Graham and Hook ["rabwin" ] Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) [Nik ] Re:names ["dMc" ] Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) [Rob Warnock some of my favorite videos , >bjork . all is love . the bjork androids emit this warmn, longing, compassionate and odly sensual vibe. it is such a loving video. >depeche mode . enjoy the silece . i remember first seeing this as a wee youngin and it compleatly blowing my mind. >-jason , ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:11:15 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) 1st thing that came to mind was the Fall's Perverted By Language video - just when video clips started to get real expensive the Fall came with their DIY attitude and created something that still looks fresh just because you could see how much fun they had making it. Low-fi is definitely cool. Other, more expensive favourites will probably come later to my amnesiac mind. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 04:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: Favourite videos >>>Depeche Mode - See You. >Dave Gahan walking around Woolworths >singing into phones. Classic. It has to be said, although Depeche Mode are somewhat... variable in their output, all of their Corbijn-directed videos, without exception are bloody good, especially Halo and Useless, the latter of which proves that the simplest ideas work best. I'm also very fond of The Cure's Close to Me, REM's Everybody Hurts (cliche, I know, but it works very, very well), The Fall on Snub playing Dead Beat Descendant (very funny). To get back on topic, some of the best videos I have seen have come from Wire -- Colin's B is great fun and utterly bizarre, So and Slow it Grows matches the subtlety of the piece perfectly, Eardrum Buzz is a laugh (*how* many cameos?) and Post Code Orange is nicely done. Seeing as how many videos were played at RFH, one hopes that Immersion and He Said will eventually be in a position to show off their visual wares to everyone as well. Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:31:26 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: Favourite videos >>>Depeche Mode - See You. >Dave Gahan walking around Woolworths >singing into phones. Classic. It has to be said, although Depeche Mode are somewhat... variable in their output, all of their Corbijn-directed videos, without exception are bloody good, especially Halo and Useless, the latter of which proves that the simplest ideas work best. >>>> i saw the vh1 "behind the music" thing on d/mode recently , lots of comment from ace-dj daniel miller and lots of film of that rosebowl concert where wire were supporting. i reckon wire must have been brilliant because you could still hear the crowd cheering wildly for another encore even as the mode (as i believe they're known) took the stage. lots of backstage footage too , but couldn't see any of wire rubbernecking to get into the shots.pity. so i guess wire's set was filmed too? might be interesting.p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:47:39 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Re: Favourite videos There's only one very very small reference to Wire during the whole 3 hour 101 film and I don't think DA Pennebaker filmed any of the other acts there that night (OMD & Thomas Dolby). Pity. Chris. paul.rabjohn@ssab.com on 02/08/2000 13:31:26 To: idealcopy@smoe.org, wireviews@yahoo.com cc: (bcc: Chris Ray/Finance/MEDAS) Subject: Re: Favourite videos >>>Depeche Mode - See You. >Dave Gahan walking around Woolworths >singing into phones. Classic. It has to be said, although Depeche Mode are somewhat... variable in their output, all of their Corbijn-directed videos, without exception are bloody good, especially Halo and Useless, the latter of which proves that the simplest ideas work best. >>>> i saw the vh1 "behind the music" thing on d/mode recently , lots of comment from ace-dj daniel miller and lots of film of that rosebowl concert where wire were supporting. i reckon wire must have been brilliant because you could still hear the crowd cheering wildly for another encore even as the mode (as i believe they're known) took the stage. lots of backstage footage too , but couldn't see any of wire rubbernecking to get into the shots.pity. so i guess wire's set was filmed too? might be interesting.p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:23:25 -0400 From: Carl Archer Subject: Re: Did You Know? - Do You Care? "Faster Than Light" Rules! Sorry for wasting bandwidth... - -Carl > From: george.m.hook@ac.com > Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:34:01 -0500 > To: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Did You Know? - Do You Care? > > > In honour of this occasion: > > What's our favorite videos? > > I'd have to go with almost anything that Wax Trax did. KMFDM "Drug Against > War," Clock DVA, Lead Into Gold "Faster Than Light." > > Then, there's Duran Duran's "Girls on Film"... I guess .... > > George > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 08:28:44 -0400 From: Carl Archer Subject: Re: Favpourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) Does the video for 'Can't Stand Losing You' by The Police qualify? I'd like to know why many of the video VHS albums of the 80s are still unavailable on DVD. I'd love to have all of The Police, Duran Duran, The Fixx, and Love & Rockets videos again. - -Carl > From: MarkBursa@aol.com > Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:08:58 EDT > To: george.m.hook@ac.com, idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Favpourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) > > Generally I just like ones where there is a film of the band playing, against > a plain background. (eg Play for Today by the Cure). Either that or simple, > fairly abstract ideas. I dislike videos that overwhelm the music.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:37:27 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) A few that I can still remember enough of to love: the "simplicity=elegance" camp: New Order - The Perfect Kiss Replacements - Bastards of Young (the famous speaker closeup video that Jeffrey referred to) Special One - Ultra Vivid Scene (worth it for Kim Deal beating the shit out of Kurt Ralske at the end for no apparent reason) Alec Empire - 22:24 (frozen tripping(?) teenagers in slow motion at an outdoor rave in Iceland, synced up with frozen, fuzzy hiphop) the "completely over the top" camp: Peter Gabriel - Shock the Monkey Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy special mention: ABC - Mantrap (long form) Wonderful document of the musical era that (for better or worse) shaped me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:12:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: fave vids Paul, << denim ; middle of the road >> What was that like?? great single - just wrong place, wrong time again. I have the original demos for the first Denim album which are much better. About time Lawrence got his act together. Heard Go-kart Mozart? Possible the most shocking fall from grace you could imagine. Songs about the Queen Mum's hip replacement operation, played on a Bontempi organ etc. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:15:17 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Favpourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) << >Whichever Replacements video it is with nothing but a shot of a crappy >speaker with an ashtray, some change, etc., rattling away on top of it; >i.e., nothing happens. Brilliant. >> At the end it gets kicked over....Butt-head makes Beavis watch the whole video because "something cool is going to happen". It does. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:31:13 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) Here's two more that crept from my murky subconscious: My Bloody Valentine's You Made Me Realise - mmm... it looks just the way it sounds Television's Call Mr. Lee - nice fun with one-shot and on/off lip-sync switches - great black & white (great song) giluz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:37:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: black lace/Graham and Hook On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 ajwells@att.net wrote: > Didnt like Speak Your Language or Nightshift? Pretty nice Hannett > angel dust on that single... true, those weren't bad. overall, though... favorite videos: gods, where do you all SEE videos? i own three or four tapes of videos that i had to go out and buy, and i dimly remember seeing videos for things one-third as obscure as the stuff you're all naming on MTV back in 1989, but not since then. so, given the caveat that i've forgotten most of the music videos i ever saw, i have to give the nod to New Order's video oeuvre, all the way through. the quick cuts in "Bizarre Love Triangle, topped with the song completely dropping out midway through for a clip from a nonexistent movie - -- brilliant! the Michael Clarke Ballet's performance in "True Faith" -- briliant! the dogs in "Blue Monday" -- brilliant! the appalling fake lip-synching in "Touched By The Hand Of God" -- you guessed it, brilliant. "In Vivo" was quite good too, but "Eardrum Buzz" always struck me as pretty typical "alternative" video fare from that time. the thing is, New Order were reluctant, sometimes unwilling, to get involved in their own videos, and the directors they hired often didn't like the music at all. thus is art created. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:37:57 +-100 From: Alan Gray Subject: Re videos >>Does the video for 'Can't Stand Losing You' by The Police qualify? >>I'd like to know why many of the video VHS albums of the 80s are still >>unavailable on DVD. I'd love to have all of The Police, Duran Duran, The >>Fixx, and Love & Rockets videos again. Carl Archer I might be taking the bait but... Was it John Peel who said that he was watching an ELP concert and saw Keith Emerson playing a grand piano that was suspended above the stage and revolving, to whoops of glee from a young audience and thought "Oh dear oh dear something has gone terribly wrong here." With their songs and their videos,Duran Duran, a decade or so later,for me, they provoked a similar feeling. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:25:17 -0400 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) yeah, when I first saw that Bjork video for "All is Full of Love" I was pretty stunned - it was pretty sexual, I thought. These android things with her features, making out with each other. So, Bjork, as an android (two of them) making out with each other (themselves). WOW! haahhaa A guy's wet dream I'm sure (or a lesbian's). Her other videos are cool too - I like the one for Army of Me and the first ones she did like Human Behavior. I am a big Bjork fan - but not sure what was up with her attacking the press. Did anyone else see that video clip? katherine - ----- Original Message ----- From: - hyponoise - To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:13 AM Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) some of my favorite videos , bjork . all is love . the bjork androids emit this warmn, longing, compassionate and odly sensual vibe. it is such a loving video. underworld . cowgirl . theres dirt, words, lights, it manages to provide a sutiable median for underworlds music. great tomato visuals. nine inch nails . hurt . the video didnt even attempt to glossover the content of the song. it provides this bare, stark, emotional backdrop for one of the most powerful songs of my generation. tool . aenima . again a video where the charcters are so removed from anything you would feel conmassion for but by the end of the video through the combination of the music and visuals you find yorself rooting for this odd collection of sods. massive attack . angel . its just this feal human singing the lyrics while floating in the womb. perfectly fitting. depeche mode . enjoy the silece . i remember first seeing this as a wee youngin and it compleatly blowing my mind. skinny puppy. spazmolytic . you have this b-grade horro movie depection of herion addiction provideing this haunting images. it just burns itself into your retna. curve . fait accompli . just another video that i cant figure out why but it just blew my mind when i first saw it. - -jason , the coconut pokemon n . p . die warzau . engine www.mp3.com/wilt [snake!:underworld.king.of.snake:fan.rmxs] www.idrive.com/kosrmx1/files/shared/ www.idrive.com/kosrmx2/files/shared/ just because a cat has her kittens in the oven doesn't make them biscuits ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:42:48 +0100 From: Nik Subject: Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) In message <48.9017cb5.26b8ee96@aol.com>, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes >off the cuff i'd say new order-perfect kiss (beautiful), cabaret >voltaire-sensoria (the camera on a pendulum about 15 yrs before metallica), Wow! Sensoria was the first video I thought of in terms of a favourite. Same reason - awesome camera work. Next One Is Real by Minimal Compact from the same period also stuck in my memory. Very fast-paced for that time. One of the funniest videos I remember is The Weeping Song, with Nick Cave and Blixa Bargeld as 2 drunks in a boat. Not much happening there, but their faces carry it off. Wire videos - hmm...maybe Ahead for its surreal sensuality. Eardrum Buzz and In Vivo did not really touch me - too one-dimensional compared to the multi-layered lyrics. I never saw the one for So And Slow, unfortunately...but I'd like to. I also have a soft spot for certain Madonna videos - Bedtime Story has beautiful visuals and Bjork-like vocals, and Bad Girl is a mini murder mystery including an angel (slightly Wings Of Desire, actually). I really like Madonna. Not so much for her music but for her ability to constantly come up with different looks. A female De Niro, in a way. Nik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 12:56:54 EDT From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) Bjork video for " Human Behavior -\ Was that the one done by John Cristafullo (sp?) the guy who does Ren and Stimpy? That was a great vid. I love when different reality planes morph into and out of each other. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 09:57:40 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) At 08:42 AM 8/2/00, Nik wrote: >I also have a soft spot for certain Madonna videos - Bedtime Story has >beautiful visuals and Bjork-like vocals, This is because it is a Bjork song (written for Madonna) and produced by Nelle Hooper... so, yeah, it is very similar, and the only item I own from Madonna... the visuals are fantastic, on par with the director's other work (last name starts with an R??? -- of eastern europe origin, I think), as he has done many other famous videos: NiN "Closer," and "Perfect Drug," Michael Jacson's "Scream" and many others... many of them have a unusual microphones in them. - -fernando ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:01:31 EDT From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) >I also have a soft spot for certain Madonna videos Definately - "Like a Prayer" is awesome. The iconography is so powerful - beautiful girl in her underwear dancing in front of a burning cross!! - the thing is shot like a little movie, very professionally done, and so subversive (esp. for American TV) mixing interracial relationships with religion and good 'ol boy justice. Pepsi must have shat a cow when they first saw it. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew N Westmeyer Subject: Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) Excerpts from mail: 2-Aug-100 Re: NO/videos (was Re: blac.. by Nik@trans-lingua.demon.c > One of the funniest videos I remember is The Weeping Song, with Nick > Cave and Blixa Bargeld as 2 drunks in a boat. Not much happening there, > but their faces carry it off. Directed by Angela Conway... (A)ndrew Westmeyer qwerty@cmu.edu www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty "I've been known to dabble." -007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:05:58 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) >Bjork video for " Human Behavior -\ > >Was that the one done by John Cristafullo (sp?) the guy who does Ren and >Stimpy? That was a great vid. I love when different reality planes morph >into and out of each other. No - the "Ren & Stimpy" creator's video is a rather new one, the title of which escapes me right now. I think the Human Behavior video is the one where Bjork is a moth, and there's a rag doll bear running around eating hunters. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:20:26 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Mark Romanek (was Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) I knew that it would bug me... in case you are curious... here is a link to the videos of Mark Romanek http://www.egads.com/nemceff2/romanek.htm - -f. At 08:42 AM 8/2/00, Nik wrote: >I also have a soft spot for certain Madonna videos - Bedtime Story has >beautiful visuals and Bjork-like vocals, This is because it is a Bjork song (written for Madonna) and produced by Nelle Hooper... so, yeah, it is very similar, and the only item I own from Madonna... the visuals are fantastic, on par with the director's other work (last name starts with an R??? -- of eastern europe origin, I think), as he has done many other famous videos: NiN "Closer," and "Perfect Drug," Michael Jacson's "Scream" and many others... many of them have a unusual microphones in them. - -fernando ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 19:21:04 +0100 From: "rabwin" Subject: Re: fave vids > > << denim ; middle of the road >> > > What was that like?? /////// really funny spoof glam rock , lawrence totally po-faced. actually got shown on the chart show. > great single - just wrong place, wrong time again. I have the original demos > for the first Denim album which are much better. > /////// yeah , pulp had a load of success with a very similar formula. the first denim album is ok , but done straight. the second ("denim on ice") is more jokey , about half of it i really love (note to howard ; there's a track called "mrs mills" , a tribute of course). then the third album is chronic , a load of twee crap. there's a track called "tampax ad" , which probably tells you all you need to know. > About time Lawrence got his act together. Heard Go-kart Mozart? Possible the > most shocking fall from grace you could imagine. Songs about the Queen Mum's > hip replacement operation, played on a Bontempi organ etc. //////// crap indeed. apart from some big gigs with pulp they never seem to play live , i think i'd go out of curiousity. sad to admit in 18 years around brun i've still never seen lawrence in the flesh. is denim still going?p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 14:41:37 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: fave vids Paul, << > What was that like?? /////// really funny spoof glam rock , lawrence totally po-faced. actually got shown on the chart show.<< I have a video of Denim from Later where they do MoR and the Osmonds which is hilarious - Lawrence calling out names of 70s "icons" at the end..Clodagh Rogers! Hot Butter! etc.... > great single - just wrong place, wrong time again. I have the original demos > for the first Denim album which are much better. > /////// yeah , pulp had a load of success with a very similar formula. the first denim album is ok , but done straight. the second ("denim on ice") is more jokey , about half of it i really love (note to howard ; there's a track called "mrs mills" , a tribute of course). << Yep - it's hard to listen to. The Pub Rock Revival song is funny.... >>then the third album is chronic , a load of twee crap. there's a track called "tampax ad" , which probably tells you all you need to know.<< I haven't been able to bring mnyself to buy it. One day, when I see it for a couple of quid. It pains me so.... > About time Lawrence got his act together. Heard Go-kart Mozart? Possible the > most shocking fall from grace you could imagine. Songs about the Queen Mum's > hip replacement operation, played on a Bontempi organ etc. //////// crap indeed. apart from some big gigs with pulp they never seem to play live , i think i'd go out of curiousity. sad to admit in 18 years around brun i've still never seen lawrence in the flesh. is denim still going >><< Very rareley played in Birmingham - though the last Felt gig was there in 89. I think Lawrence moved away in the early 80s and lived in Brighton for a long time. Denim is on hold foir the time being as Lawrence thinks they're still ahead of their time....apparently he's making a solo album (quite how that differs from a Denim album or a GKM album is beyond me) on Alan McGee's new label, which is supposed to be Lawrence's Blood on the Tracks.... Felt were the finest British band of the 80s...probably saw them about 15 times. I once saw them play Outdoor Miner.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:47:14 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (bjork) In a message dated 8/2/00 12:25:06 AM, heavens_trash@hotmail.com writes: << bjork . all is love . the bjork androids emit this warmn, longing, compassionate and odly sensual vibe. it is such a loving video. >> omg! how could i have left this out of my list! it was late last night when i posted my choices. they were just impulse votes. all is full of love is possibly the most beautiful thing i've ever seen on a small screen. - -paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:55:16 +0100 From: Nik Subject: Mark Romanek (was Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) Thanks a bunch, Fernando! BTW, your earlier posting did it - when I went shopping at Tesco's tonight, I picked up a copy of the Madonna 93:99 video collection. My favourite videos are even better than I remembered them. If only Wire had had her budget at the time. I'll check out the website you mentioned next. Nik currently listening to Aretha's 'Think' on my PC and loving it In message <4.3.2.7.0.20000802111913.00ae6260@pop3.endlessblue.com>, fernando writes >I knew that it would bug me... in case you are curious... here is a link to >the videos of Mark Romanek > >http://www.egads.com/nemceff2/romanek.htm > >-f. > > >At 08:42 AM 8/2/00, Nik wrote: > > >>I also have a soft spot for certain Madonna videos - Bedtime Story has >>beautiful visuals and Bjork-like vocals, > >This is because it is a Bjork song (written for Madonna) and produced by >Nelle Hooper... so, yeah, it is very similar, and the only item I own from >Madonna... the visuals are fantastic, on par with the director's other work >(last name starts with an R??? -- of eastern europe origin, I think), as he >has done many other famous videos: NiN "Closer," and "Perfect Drug," >Michael Jacson's "Scream" and many others... many of them have a unusual >microphones in them. > > >-fernando > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:32:21 +0100 From: "rabwin" Subject: Re: black lace/Graham and Hook > favorite videos: gods, where do you all SEE videos? i own three or four > tapes of videos that i had to go out and buy, and i dimly remember seeing > videos for things one-third as obscure as the stuff you're all naming on > MTV back in 1989, but not since then. >>>>> well one good source was MTV "alternative nation" , which seems to have been cancelled ; last 2 weeks its been listed but they've just shown "MTV Hits" (ie britney & co). is it on some other time? pity as it was about the only mtv show worth watching.p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 22:48:26 +0100 From: Nik Subject: Re: NO/videos (was Re: black lace/Graham and Hook) In message <8tW5yXu00UwB8ddlsN@andrew.cmu.edu>, Andrew N Westmeyer writes >Excerpts from mail: 2-Aug-100 Re: NO/videos (was Re: blac.. by >Nik@trans-lingua.demon.c >> One of the funniest videos I remember is The Weeping Song, with Nick >> Cave and Blixa Bargeld as 2 drunks in a boat. Not much happening there, >> but their faces carry it off. > >Directed by Angela Conway... I had no idea...Loved her work for Graham on Pump, though. Maybe she would have been THE director for Ticking Mouth, if there'd ever been a video. Nik sic transit Gloria Gaynor > >(A)ndrew Westmeyer >qwerty@cmu.edu >www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty > P.S.: Fanx for your great website ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 23:12:16 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: Alternative Nation > >>>>> well one good source was MTV "alternative nation" , which seems to > have been cancelled ; last 2 weeks its been listed but they've just shown > "MTV Hits" (ie britney & co). is it on some other time? pity as it was about > the only mtv show worth watching.p > I noticed this too, and was pretty brassed off - despite the programme's weaknesses. It's the only reason I keep paying for MTV sending down the cable. I checked their teletext pages and it is no longer listed in their alphabetical "Highlights" listing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:04:30 -0500 From: "dMc" Subject: Re:names aaron. i beg to difer - i wish i could speak your language is wonderfully inarticulate the whole 'swimming' album is very much 'of a time' , but it was a wonderfull, grey time for me i seem to recall alot of water and swimming foing on around them 'our swimmer' included __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 20:06:37 -0500 From: Rob Warnock Subject: Re: Favourite Videos (was Did You Know? - Do You Care?) For what it's worth. My 10 favorite videos in no particular order are: COIL-Tainted Love (my absolute favorite) CABARET VOLTAIRE-Sensoria SKINNY PUPPY-Spasmolytic NITZER EBB-Hearts and Minds FRONT 242-Quite Unusual THE CURE-Lullaby FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY-Mindphaser (even tho most of it's stolen from the Japanese movie, "Gunhead") SHRIEKBACK-Nemesis DEPECHE MODE-Shake the Disease WOLFGANG PRESS-Kansas My favorite WIRE video (just to stay sort of on topic)-In Vivo - -Rob- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 9:56:47 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: fave vids Yep - it's hard to listen to. The Pub Rock Revival song is funny.... >>>> i guess that's the best track. should've been the single. >>then the third album is chronic , a load of twee crap. there's a track called "tampax ad" , which probably tells you all you need to know.<< I haven't been able to bring mnyself to buy it. One day, when I see it for a couple of quid. It pains me so.... >>>> don't do it. whatever shop you see it in there will be records ten times better for 2 quid. it's a total stinker. .apparently he's making a solo album (quite how that differs from a Denim album or a GKM album is beyond me) on Alan McGee's new label, which is supposed to be Lawrence's Blood on the Tracks.... >>>>> yeah right :-)p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #239 *******************************