From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #185 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, June 16 2000 Volume 03 : Number 185 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Trouble at Mills [Alan Gray ] Re:Mrs Mills/WIRE! [Howard Spencer ] RE: high (?) fidelity ["webmaster" ] Jim Reeves [Alan Gray ] Re: high (?) fidelity ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] Re: high (?) fidelity ["tube disaster" ] The Cure [Alan Gray ] RE: The Cure ["giluz" ] Re: Trouble at Mills ["stephen graziano" ] RE: Trouble at Mills ["giluz" ] Re: Jim Reeves ["Katherine Pouliot" ] Re: high (?) fidelity ["Katherine Pouliot" ] RE: Jim Reeves ["giluz" ] Blonde Redhead ["giluz" ] Re: Jim Reeves ["Katherine Pouliot" ] RE: Jim Reeves ["giluz" ] Re: Blonde Redhead [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: Blonde Redhead ["Gary Turner" ] Re: Provisionally entitled... ["lucifersam" ] Re: Still blocking those memories of having worked in a record store ["ia] Re: Provisionally entitled... [Andrew N Westmeyer ] Re: Provisionally entitled... ["Katherine Pouliot" ] Re: Blonde Redhead [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: Provisionally entitled... [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Blonde Redhead ["tube disaster" ] Re: Provisionally entitled... ["lucifersam" ] Re Jim Reeves [Alan Gray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:32:45 +-100 From: Alan Gray Subject: Trouble at Mills Theres no message I just wanted to say "trouble at Mills" By the way In my earlier Mills message I was mistaken, the Cornelia Parker piece was actually entitled, "measuring Niagra with a teaspoon" Alan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:04:31 +0100 From: Howard Spencer Subject: Re:Mrs Mills/WIRE! Having obviously rattled a few cages I feel should let you know that Mrs Mills died in Feb 1978 and her first name was Gladys. Here is a great site about the joys of collecting crap/kitsch records: http://www.78rpm.sonow.com/002/CRWHERE.HTM BAck to Wire (hurray!). Which Graham-sung song would y'all most like to hear done by Colin and vice versa?. I'd like to hear Graham do 'Another the letter' slowly and poshly and Colin sing 'Pump' in 30 seconds flat in the style of a cockney pub-pianist. Oh damn, back to Mrs Mills again. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 06:00:41 -0500 From: "webmaster" Subject: RE: high (?) fidelity I approached High Fidelity The Movie as entertainment not as some artistic rendition of a literary classic. Silly me American and my soon-to-be-attorney wife. And possibly the funniest thing to appear on the list: ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, > ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:43:19 +-100 From: Alan Gray Subject: Jim Reeves Catherine mentioned being a pet nerd. As we've done Mrs Mills (perish the thought) a Jim Reeves connection occurred to me. The best terrible song I ever heard was "Old Tige" By Jim Reeves. Can anyone remember hearing it? It is truely appauling, pure OTT sentiment. It was a B side in the C&W section of the jukebox in our local' many years ago and anyone leaving the pub early would select it to annoy those left behind... Old Tige was this blokes pet. The bloke has to go off to war, sadly leaving the dog to the care of his old mom. He returns home late one night,many years later, and Old Tige is waiting to meet him at the bus stop. Old Tige leads him home (skippy style) by a strange and circuitous route. Finally home, He tells his old mom how pleased he was to see his pet again. Shes very pleased to see her lad safely home, 'cause she'd meant to write and warn him that they built a dam where the old road used to go. Then, "Son,I gotta tell you when you left, it broke Tige's heart, Tige died five years ago." Alan. PS I'm fond of my cat but it's more likely that I will trip over him and fall down the stairs. PPS I think OLD Tige was the inspiration for that Billy Connelly C&W doomladen song, In the days before Billy played golf with Tarby. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:29:02 EDT From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: Re: high (?) fidelity >Whenever I rent American movies, I wind up turning them off well >before the ending - they are too programmed. I think I see maybe 2 >good American movies in a year. Two good American movies in a year??? Didn't you mean in a decade? On a separate (but still offtopic) note, I went to see the Cure yesterday and loved it. They played for 2h 45m and performed everything off the new album and a great collection of long forgotten songs - I think half of Pornography, Deep Green Sea and The End off Wish, The Kiss (off Kiss Me), Sinking (!) off Head on the Door (Sinking would probably the last song off that album I would remember; it mixed in very good, anyway). I don't think they played anything off Wild Mood Swings (though This is a Lie would fit rather nicely... I guess Robert just wants to forget that album) or Top. They did 4 encores. After the 3rd (M, Play For Today, Just Like Heaven, A Forest) I felt on the top of the world. But the 4th (Lovesong, Boys Don't Cry, 10:15 Saturday Night, Killing an Arab) really swiped everyone away! Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://belmusic.hypermart.net ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:47:16 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: high (?) fidelity >>Whenever I rent American movies, I wind up turning them off well >>before the ending - they are too programmed. I think I see maybe 2 >>good American movies in a year. >Two good American movies in a year??? Didn't you mean in a decade? Funny ... since my local $1 theatre halves its prices to 50 cents on Tuesdays, lately I've been seeing 2 good American movies a *day*. Oh, well, there's no accounting for tastes, my own very much included. As for the Cure, did you guys get A Strange Day, with that great ominous synth chord at the beginning (though it's far more pronounced on the studio version than on the various live bootlegs I've heard over the years)? That's the one song off Pornography (along with 100 Years, which we *did* get) that I would especially have loved to have heard in Dallas, but didn't. We got a 4th encore there, too, but it consisted of only Faith. *sigh* Dan > >On a separate (but still offtopic) note, I went to see the Cure yesterday >and loved it. They played for 2h 45m and performed everything off the new >album and a great collection of long forgotten songs - I think half of >Pornography, Deep Green Sea and The End off Wish, The Kiss (off Kiss Me), >Sinking (!) off Head on the Door (Sinking would probably the last song off >that album I would remember; it mixed in very good, anyway). I don't think >they played anything off Wild Mood Swings (though This is a Lie would fit >rather nicely... I guess Robert just wants to forget that album) or Top. > >They did 4 encores. After the 3rd (M, Play For Today, Just Like Heaven, A >Forest) I felt on the top of the world. But the 4th (Lovesong, Boys Don't >Cry, 10:15 Saturday Night, Killing an Arab) really swiped everyone away! > >Syarzhuk > >Be healthy, stay wealthy... > >Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://belmusic.hypermart.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:06:24 +-100 From: Alan Gray Subject: The Cure Syarzhuk wrote >On a separate (but still offtopic) note, I went to see the Cure yesterday >and loved it. They played for 2h 45m and performed everything off the new >album and a great collection of long forgotten songs - I think half of >Pornography, Deep Green Sea and The End off Wish, The Kiss (off Kiss Me), >Sinking (!) off Head on the Door (Sinking would probably the last song off >that album I would remember; it mixed in very good, anyway). I don't think >they played anything off Wild Mood Swings (though This is a Lie would fit >rather nicely... I guess Robert just wants to forget that album) or Top. This sounds excellent but where were they playing? and was it raining? I love the Cure and I've seen them live many times, but I've noticed that it rains while they play. Glastonbury one year,after a scorching weekend they played and there was a storm during their set. The previous year I'd been in the south of France for a couple of really hot weeks, The Cure played nearby on the last night and it tipped down. I'm curious, Alan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:30:59 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: The Cure > I love the Cure and I've seen them live many times, > but I've noticed that it rains while they play. > Glastonbury one year,after a scorching weekend they played and > there was a storm during their set. > The previous year I'd been in the south of France for a couple of > really hot weeks, The Cure played nearby on the last night and it > tipped down. > I'm curious, > > Alan Maybe Robert Smith's a rain god, just like in Douglas Adams' "So Long and Thanks For All the Fish". This could probably explain a lot, right? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:09:13 EDT From: "stephen graziano" Subject: Re: Trouble at Mills > >Theres no message I just wanted to say "trouble at Mills" > One of the flayrods gone outta skew on treadle!! I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisistion! Our chief weapon is suprise. Suprise and fear etc. etc. etc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:31:08 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Trouble at Mills > Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisistion! Our chief weapon is suprise. > Suprise and fear etc. etc. etc. Why did they have to take this amazing sketch to use in this crap film "Sliding Doors"? Now every time someone mentions it, instead of triggering the happy memories of the Python gang I think of this naff film. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:45:59 -0400 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: Jim Reeves awwww sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not much of a dog fan.... try lizards, then you have my attention... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Gray To: Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: Jim Reeves > Catherine mentioned being a pet nerd. > As we've done Mrs Mills (perish the thought) a Jim Reeves connection occurred to me. > The best terrible song I ever heard was "Old Tige" By Jim Reeves. > Can anyone remember hearing it? > It is truely appauling, pure OTT sentiment. > It was a B side in the C&W section of the jukebox in our local' many years ago > and anyone leaving the pub early would select it to annoy those left behind... > > Old Tige was this blokes pet. The bloke has to go off to war, sadly leaving the dog to the care of his old mom. > He returns home late one night,many years later, and Old Tige is waiting to meet him at the bus stop. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:59:12 -0400 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: high (?) fidelity Well, give me some recommendations then. I'm lacking !!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: tube disaster To: Ideal Copy Mailing list Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: Re: high (?) fidelity > > >>Whenever I rent American movies, I wind up turning them off well > >>before the ending - they are too programmed. I think I see maybe 2 > >>good American movies in a year. > >Two good American movies in a year??? Didn't you mean in a decade? > > Funny ... since my local $1 theatre halves its prices to 50 cents on > Tuesdays, lately I've been seeing 2 good American movies a *day*. Oh, well, > there's no accounting for tastes, my own very much included. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:09:13 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Jim Reeves Alan didn't mention that Tige was a dog, so he could be a lizard, I guess. giluz > awwww > sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not much of a dog fan.... > try lizards, then you have my attention... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alan Gray > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 10:43 AM > Subject: Jim Reeves > > > > Catherine mentioned being a pet nerd. > > As we've done Mrs Mills (perish the thought) a Jim Reeves connection > occurred to me. > > The best terrible song I ever heard was "Old Tige" By Jim Reeves. > > Can anyone remember hearing it? > > It is truely appauling, pure OTT sentiment. > > It was a B side in the C&W section of the jukebox in our local' > many years > ago > > and anyone leaving the pub early would select it to annoy those left > behind... > > > > Old Tige was this blokes pet. The bloke has to go off to war, sadly > leaving the dog to the care of his old mom. > > He returns home late one night,many years later, and Old Tige is waiting > to meet him at the bus stop. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:10:36 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: Blonde Redhead Is anyone familiar with a band called Blonde Redhead? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:24:28 -0400 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: Jim Reeves ahem: "Old Tige was this blokes pet. The bloke has to go off to war, sadly leaving the dog to the care of his old mom." hahha - ----- Original Message ----- From: giluz To: IdealCopy Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Jim Reeves > Alan didn't mention that Tige was a dog, so he could be a lizard, I guess. > giluz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:36:42 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Jim Reeves Oops... giluz > -----Original Message----- > From: Katherine Pouliot [mailto:kep99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:24 PM > To: giluz; IdealCopy > Subject: Re: Jim Reeves > > > ahem: > > "Old Tige was this blokes pet. The bloke has to go off to war, sadly > leaving the dog to the care of his old mom." > > hahha > ----- Original Message ----- > From: giluz > To: IdealCopy > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 2:09 PM > Subject: RE: Jim Reeves > > > > Alan didn't mention that Tige was a dog, so he could be a > lizard, I guess. > > giluz > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:40:14 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: Blonde Redhead >Is anyone familiar with a band called Blonde Redhead? > Yes. .. .. .. ... ..... ...... (you were expecting more?) ... ... ... .. . . . well, okay. I heard their new CD from some friends of mine who are rabid Blonde Redhead fans. To tell the truth, it didn't do too much for me. I was happy when they took it off the CD player. The description that comes immediately to mind is "fey"... Of course, as with all things, your mileage may vary. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:01:42 -0500 From: "Gary Turner" Subject: Re: Blonde Redhead I would recommend 'Fake Can Be Just As Good' for the uninitiated. For what they do, which is firmly in the tradition of sonic youth/fugazi American indie rock type stuff , they're actually pretty good. Their last couple of albums haven't done much for me though... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:57:14 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... I added a half star revue saying it was the tackiest thing I've ever seen....I'll wait to get sued now!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Schmid To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 1:11 AM Subject: Provisionally entitled... > The Singing Fish! > > http://www.kbkids.com/toys/product.html?WebID=00fc789f13210088899f132100b884 9f132100a3ed9f1321 > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:10:34 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: Still blocking those memories of having worked in a record store > Then again, maybe I just automatically react badly when people start > talking to the camera. (Though somehow it seemed OK when Groucho > Marx did it.) > > John H. Hedges > And Oliver Hardy's looks-to-camera are absolutely priceless Ian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:54:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew N Westmeyer Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... They sell this in one of the grocery stores (Safeway) here in Arizona. I don't know why. It's 5 bucks cheaper too. Excerpts from mail: 15-Jun-100 Re: Provisionally entitled... by "lucifersam"@supanet.com > I added a half star revue saying it was the tackiest thing I've ever > seen....I'll wait to get sued now!!!! > > > The Singing Fish! > > > http://www.kbkids.com/toys/product.html?WebID=00fc789f13210088899f132100b884 > 9f132100a3ed9f1321 (A)ndrew Westmeyer qwerty@cmu.edu www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty "I've been known to dabble." -007 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:58:36 -0400 From: "Katherine Pouliot" Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... bravo !! - ----- Original Message ----- From: lucifersam To: ; Max Schmid Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... > I added a half star revue saying it was the tackiest thing I've ever > seen....I'll wait to get sued now!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:27:38 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: Blonde Redhead >I would recommend 'Fake Can Be Just As Good' for the uninitiated. For what >they do, which is firmly in the tradition of sonic youth/fugazi American >indie rock type stuff , they're actually pretty good. Their last couple of >albums haven't done much for me though... Hmm. Sonic Youth and Fugazi is not the two bands I would have compared 'em to. More like Built To Spill or....jeez...I don't know. Something wimpier. The indie rock comment is right on, though. I don't like my music quite that indie, I guess. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:48:49 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... Cat, << I added a half star revue saying it was the tackiest thing I've ever seen....I'll wait to get sued now!!!! >> Ooohhh no. You've just doubled their sales ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:32:15 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Blonde Redhead I've heard a bit, but it all reminded me of Sonic Youth. Of course, as I've noted before here or elsewhere, I get in moods where *everything* unfamiliar reminds me of SY, even though I'm not a big fan of theirs. Dan > >>Is anyone familiar with a band called Blonde Redhead? >> > >Yes. > > >.. >.. >.. >... >..... >...... > >(you were expecting more?) > > >... >... >... >.. >. >. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:07:05 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... The Sad thing is your probably right!!!!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:48 AM Subject: Re: Provisionally entitled... > Cat, > > << I added a half star revue saying it was the tackiest thing I've ever > seen....I'll wait to get sued now!!!! >> > > Ooohhh no. You've just doubled their sales ;-) > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:12:23 +-100 From: Alan Gray Subject: Re Jim Reeves >>awwww >>sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not much of a dog fan.... >>try lizards, then you have my attention... I'm not dissapointed, but wonder what sort of Lizards you have. Are they big? In England I used to know someone who had lizards but they were small and hard to spot in the tank he had to keep them in. (He had some bits of rock and twigs in there for them.) Also the tank used to steam up and I'm sure that the Lizards suffered. In England people also keep newts. Do you have newts over there, apart from that Gingritch bloke? Alan PS The song might have been better if Old Tige was a Lizard,as long as he was a big one other wise the bloke would have picked him up at the bus stop and attempted to carry him home, thus they would both have plunged to their doom, though old tige was already dead of course. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #185 *******************************