From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #182 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, June 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 182 Today's Subjects: ----------------- jimmy nail in wire link horror [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Cornelia Parker [VoxxJaguar@aol.com] RE: Cornelia Parker ["giluz" ] Re: Cornelia Parker ["Alan Gray" ] Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror ["tube disaster" ] Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir ["tube disaster" ] RE: Cornelia Parker ["giluz" ] Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror ["lucifersam" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:17:06 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: jimmy nail in wire link horror could be wrong , but i seem to recall post-wire george gill was in the bears. just reading an interview with penny rimbaud (thanks john) and he refers to the bears as jimmy nail's early band. i guess a lot of uk listers are pretty big fans of jim's work and will be chuffed to see he has a wire connection. i guess the us has been spared mr nail , i believe he has a compilation called "the nail file" (please sir , spare my sides) , in the unlikely event you're curious. and what were the bears like? pub rock? is the above info correct? p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:51:11 EDT From: VoxxJaguar@aol.com Subject: Cornelia Parker I woke up today listening to a radio interview with an English sculptor named Cornelia Parker. A very unique and clever artist! She is fascinated with putting objects into various forms of suspension. "Negative Music" is a piece made up of the lacquer shavings of a masterdisc from Abbey Road (possibly Oasis, she mused)...Another was a US silver dollar that was melted down and reformed into a single piece of Wire that is the exact height of the Statue of Liberty. Somehow she's gotten permission to use a guillotine that beheaded (can't remember who) to slice bread! and other everyday objects...She was turned down by NASA in her effort to have them launch a meteorite back into space. I know this is not Wire related but Ms. Parker does seem to have a similar British wit and humorous artistry that Wire has. She has a "show" currently at The Victorian Arts Museum (?) wherever that is...possibly in Chicago (it was on NPR~"Fresh Air" i think)...Does anyone out there know? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:21:32 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Cornelia Parker >She was > turned down by NASA in her effort to have them launch a meteorite > back into > space. Fucking hell - that's some vision. There are some people that should be on that asteroid (any suggestions?) giluz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:14:46 +0100 From: "Alan Gray" Subject: Re: Cornelia Parker They'd need a large rocket, and isn't there enough rubbish hurtling around the earth up there already? I will not submit the lengthy list that springs to mind. How ever One candidate, who should be strapped to the nose cone, Sting. Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: giluz To: IdealCopy Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 6:21 PM Subject: RE: Cornelia Parker > >She was > > turned down by NASA in her effort to have them launch a meteorite > > back into > > space. > > Fucking hell - that's some vision. There are some people that should be on > that asteroid (any suggestions?) > giluz > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:33:58 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror >could be wrong , but i seem to recall post-wire george gill was in the bears. just reading an interview with penny rimbaud (thanks john) and he refers to the bears as jimmy nail's early band. i guess a lot of uk listers are pretty big fans of jim's work and will be chuffed to see he has a wire connection. i guess the us has been spared mr nail , i believe he has a compilation called "the nail file" (please sir , spare my sides) , in the unlikely event you're curious. > >and what were the bears like? pub rock? is the above info correct? p Gill was indeed in the Bears. Judging from the one 7" I own (the Insane LP has been on my want list for years), they were pretty much upbeat pop-punk, rather of a piece with the other Good Vibrations bands (though my single was on another label, Waldo's Records). I don't even want to think of how many hours it would probably take me to dig that record out, so at this time I can't address the alleged Jimmy Nail (who I can't say I've ever heard of) connection. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:58:16 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: Paul Young & Fretless Bass From: To: ; the paul young of the noughties (i hate that word. can anyone think of a better one)p > > Wrong decade, but I always liked the Chris Morris line on Brass Eye, referring to an increase in recreational drug consumption, that we were now living in "not so much the nineties, as the ja danketies" Maybe you had to be there... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:24:37 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror Dan, << Gill was indeed in the Bears. Judging from the one 7" I own (the Insane LP has been on my want list for years), they were pretty much upbeat pop-punk, rather of a piece with the other Good Vibrations bands (though my single was on another label, Waldo's Records). I don't even want to think of how many hours it would probably take me to dig that record out, so at this time I can't address the alleged Jimmy Nail (who I can't say I've ever heard of) connection. >> What were they doing on Good Vibrations? That was a Belfast label, featuring Northern Irish groups. I have a compilation CD of Good Vibrations somewhere...don't remember the Bears on it..... As for wor Jimmy, he's a lantern-jawed Geordie actor with a broken nose who generally portrays down-at-heel hard men (with a heart)....not a bad actor actually.... unfortunately he has carved out a parallel career as a pop star, usually mangling soul or country standards (eg Love don't live here any more by Rose Royce...) Also sometimes plays down-at-heel musicians, giving him the chance to combine the two "skills". You may have heard the one that goes "Crocodile Shoo-oooo-oooes". Or maybe not. Hopefully. So he can go on Alan's rocket with Sting. And Phil Collins. And Jeff fucking Lynne. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:11:37 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir In a message dated 6/10/0 10:40:27 PM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > >Wait a second ... something that you admit is somewhat close to 33 percent >filler nevertheless qualifies as "magnificent"? Wow, standards must've >*plummeted* while my back was turned. depends whether yer talkin "filler" as in 33% of a hot dog...that would be nasty...or looking at it more statistically as in a baseball team winning 67% or a batter hitting .667...now that's (as adam sandler would say) not too shabby! honestly, think of any single album you own. aren't there plenty of 10 song albums with only 6 or 7 really great songs on em? - -paul p.s. i found myself humming "bang ba bang bang you the killer bees" all day today. any insight on this one? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:47:22 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir > >In a message dated 6/10/0 10:40:27 PM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > >> >>Wait a second ... something that you admit is somewhat close to 33 percent >>filler nevertheless qualifies as "magnificent"? Wow, standards must've >>*plummeted* while my back was turned. > >depends whether yer talkin "filler" as in 33% of a hot dog...that would be >nasty...or looking at it more statistically as in a baseball team winning 67% >or a batter hitting .667...now that's (as adam sandler would say) not too >shabby! > >honestly, think of any single album you own. aren't there plenty of 10 song >albums with only 6 or 7 really great songs on em? Sure are. But it'd be pretty silly of me to call them "magnificent." Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:39:59 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir In a message dated 6/13/0 12:58:06 AM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: >>>Wait a second ... something that you admit is somewhat close to 33 percent > >>>filler nevertheless qualifies as "magnificent"? Wow, standards must've > >>>*plummeted* while my back was turned. eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: >> >>depends whether yer talkin "filler" as in 33% of a hot dog...that would >be >>nasty...or looking at it more statistically as in a baseball team winning >67% >>or a batter hitting .667...now that's (as adam sandler would say) not >too >>shabby! >> >>honestly, think of any single album you own. aren't there plenty of 10 >song >>albums with only 6 or 7 really great songs on em? dpbailey@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Sure are. But it'd be pretty silly of me to call them "magnificent." i would say 75% of the damned-machine gun etiquette (9 fo 12 tracks..a little cheating, counting smash it up as two!) is great, and overall it's still a magnificent album! i dunno, maybe joe strummer could've called the song "the very good seven" and described the album as "very good" instead :o) - -paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:00:52 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: (sandanista) Londons Burning!!!...wir >In a message dated 6/13/0 12:58:06 AM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > >>>>Wait a second ... something that you admit is somewhat close to 33 percent >> >>>>filler nevertheless qualifies as "magnificent"? Wow, standards must've >> >>>>*plummeted* while my back was turned. > >eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>depends whether yer talkin "filler" as in 33% of a hot dog...that would >>be >>>nasty...or looking at it more statistically as in a baseball team winning >>67% >>>or a batter hitting .667...now that's (as adam sandler would say) not >>too >>>shabby! >>> >>>honestly, think of any single album you own. aren't there plenty of 10 >>song >>>albums with only 6 or 7 really great songs on em? > >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net wrote: > >>Sure are. But it'd be pretty silly of me to call them "magnificent." > >i would say 75% of the damned-machine gun etiquette (9 fo 12 tracks..a little >cheating, counting smash it up as two!) is great, and overall it's still a >magnificent album! i dunno, maybe joe strummer could've called the song "the >very good seven" and described the album as "very good" instead :o) > >-paul We're just talking semantics here, I suppose. For me, "magnificent" is reserved for albums that don't make me want to skip a single track ... there are, what, (totally off the top of my head) maybe 70 or 80 of those, tops. Machine Gun Etiquette's not one of 'em, though it's still a damned (no pun intended) good album. The only Clash that makes it is the first one. Wire may well be better-represented than any other band other than The Fall, who as I've noted on other occasions have lasted about 3 times as long & done about 3 times as many LPs as well. Etc. etc. etc. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:18:35 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: jimmy nail in wire link horror > hours it would probably take me to dig that record out, so at this time I > can't address the alleged Jimmy Nail (who I can't say I've ever heard of) > connection. > > Dan > Wasn't Jimmy Nail an actor? giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:17:18 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: Cornelia Parker > They'd need a large rocket, and isn't there enough rubbish hurtling around > the earth up there already? > I will not submit the lengthy list that springs to mind. > How ever > One candidate, > who should be strapped to the nose cone, > Sting. > > Alan Yeah, and with life support as well, so that he's death will be lengthy and not sudden and painless. giluz ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:25:05 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: jimmy nail in wire link horror > Wasn't Jimmy Nail an actor? > giluz Allegedly my friend.................:-( The Siam Cat... Still Pissed off at loosing a 2 nil lead............:-( :-( :-( ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #182 *******************************