From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #119 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, May 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 [Howard Spencer ] [none] ["andy and sheri wiseman" ] jah wobble/howard [Alan_Platten@ipc.co.uk] RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 ["giluz" ] Re: St Sinead [Mark Short ] Can [Anthony Clough ] Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 ["Tim Maher" ] RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 [Mitch Goldman ] Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 ["A.J. Wells" ] New at this.. ["Revelos, Lydia" ] Re: Wire in SF ["marlon" ] RE: singles [Jorge Punaro ] RE: Sorry/Jah Wobble 12" [Jorge Punaro ] RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 ["Moshe Imel" ] Wire in SF x 2 [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:59:18 +0100 From: Howard Spencer Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 I got a song by Jah Wobble on tape that i have been trying to find out > the name and which record it is on since the early eighties or whenever > it came out,i think it is 82 to 83 era. I thought it might be from a > four song 12" Ep that has four versions of the same song,but i cant > remember why i thought this. This might be the 'How much are they?' EP from 1982 - that was the title of the main track. Not four versions of the same song though. Another track on it, called 'Twilight world' was dedicated to Ian Curtis and is Joy Division pastiche. 'Where's the money?' is another track on it. Can't remember the other one - it's at home somewhere. Anyone know the name of that middle eastern sounding poppy song Wobble did with Sinead o'connor before she got famous? I bought an invaders of the heart album believing it to contain said track and it didn't. Has anyone got/ heard that collaboration he did with Eno, called either Spanner or Scanner or somesuch? Any good? Howard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:17:11 +0100 From: "andy and sheri wiseman" Subject: [none] i think "visions of you" was the sinead o'connor vocal. has she blown the whistle on any more of her mates recently? a.w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:23:51 +0100 From: Alan_Platten@ipc.co.uk Subject: jah wobble/howard Howard Spencer asked: "Anyone know the name of that middle eastern sounding poppy song Wobble did with Sinead o'connor before she got famous? I bought an invaders of the heart album believing it to contain said track and it didn't." ... the track is called 'visions of you' and was released as a single. the album it is taken from is 'rising above bedlam'. i haven't heard it for quite some time but at least half of it is very good (in a ethnic-dub-dance-pop way) alanx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:34:35 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 The Wobble song with Sinead O'connor was called "Visions Of You" - I don't know which LP it appeared on. I always thought the How Much Are They EP contained excerpts from Full Circle. Isn't it so? giluz > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Howard Spencer > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 10:59 AM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 > > > I got a song by Jah Wobble on tape that i have been trying to find out > > the name and which record it is on since the early eighties or whenever > > it came out,i think it is 82 to 83 era. I thought it might be from a > > four song 12" Ep that has four versions of the same song,but i cant > > remember why i thought this. > > This might be the 'How much are they?' EP from 1982 - that was the title > of the main track. Not four versions of the same song though. Another > track on it, called 'Twilight world' was dedicated to Ian Curtis and is > Joy Division pastiche. 'Where's the money?' is another track on it. > Can't remember the other one - it's at home somewhere. > > Anyone know the name of that middle eastern sounding poppy song Wobble > did with Sinead o'connor before she got famous? I bought an invaders of > the heart album believing it to contain said track and it didn't. Has > anyone got/ heard that collaboration he did with Eno, called either > Spanner or Scanner or somesuch? Any good? > > Howard > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:45:51 +0100 From: Mark Short Subject: Re: St Sinead andy and sheri wiseman wrote: > > i think "visions of you" was the sinead o'connor vocal. > has she blown the whistle on any more of her mates recently? > a.w ...and is she still shacked up with John Walters? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:18:23 +0100 () From: Anthony Clough Subject: Can Both Landed and Flow Motion were released by on CD by Virgin and are now available on Spoon via Mute. Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:03:13 +0100 From: "Tim Maher" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 > > Anyone know the name of that middle eastern sounding poppy song Wobble > did with Sinead o'connor before she got famous? > You are thinking of "Visions of you". It was released as a single and also appears on "Rising Above Bedlam" Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:32:29 -0700 From: Mitch Goldman Subject: RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 > > I wont go through the set list... it was similar to what > you have read Can someone PLEASE post it? Can we make a pact that if we're going to write reviews of shows, we should include complete setlists? those of us seeing shows later this week would really appreciate it. MG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:59:40 -0400 From: "A.J. Wells" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 The set list was the same as the Royal Albert Hall show... its up on the Wireviews site for your enjoyment... I havent heard about the second SF show... I couldnt make it Aj - -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Goldman To: 'idealcopy@smoe.org' Date: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:01 PM Subject: RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 >> > I wont go through the set list... it was similar to what >> you have read > >Can someone PLEASE post it? > >Can we make a pact that if we're going to write >reviews of shows, we should include complete setlists? >those of us seeing shows later this week would really appreciate it. > >MG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 19:17:06 -0400 From: "Revelos, Lydia" Subject: New at this.. Hi, my name is Lydia. I am an amazed Wire fan of twelve years (and new member of this list), finally seeing my first live show by them tonight in LA. What time do they usually get up on stage and who is opening (if any) for them on the tour? Thank you and good to finally find this list! This message and any attachment are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:16:45 -0700 From: "marlon" Subject: Re: Wire in SF - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:05 AM Subject: Wire in SF > Whew... what an exhilarating show!! Hopefully my ears will open up in > another day or so... > > The Great American Music Hall is a fantastic place to see any band, Wire > in particular... in Colins' words, its "amazingly roccoco" just got back to my keypad in phoenix today, so sorry for the delay,but.... wire at the music hall in san francisco was fantastic, i thought of how tragicaly hip and boring crowds can be, but not at this show, it was great. i was lucky enough to be one person removed from directly in from of colin center stage and was blessed with a face to face most of the show. having never even got that close to my favorite band of all time left me dumbstruck and dancing (albeit politely in my personal space) very animated, not appearing bored, even will playing the old stuff, wonderful wunderbar version of "lowdown". incredible rendering of "mercy nurse" and a dancing spider on a sonic web redo of "40 versions" the encore of "drill" was amazing in its length and breakneck speed guitar. even the drunk next to me that felt the need to thrash about mindlessless at the mere mention of "12xu" couldnt darken the show. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:36:50 -0600 From: Jorge Punaro Subject: RE: singles Come on, somebody in this list should own a copy of the "Big glue Canal" 12" promo, if not, who can have it? here is the place for all hard to die Wire fans, I donīt want to imagine in what hands a gemm like that can be. Maybe under tons of garbage records. What a sad situation. Saludos Jorge - -----Mensaje original----- De: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Para: idealcopy@smoe.org ; dpbailey@worldnet.att.net Fecha: Martes, 02 de Mayo de 2000 05:10 a.m. Asunto: Re: singles > > > >Probably this matter has been addressed before & simply escaped my attention, in which case I apologize ... Anyway, in checking for "Wir" on CD Zone's sight this afternoon, I came across something I didn't recognize -- namely, CD singles of A Big Glue Canal (CDMUTE132 ... in Craig's discography, MUTE132 is the remix of Gilbert's Ab Ovo) & Over and Over (TONE8). Anyone able to shed any light on any of this? > >Dan >>>>> i actually saw a dealer selling a white label of the "big glue canal" 12" but stupidly didn't buy it ; so it must've got pretty close to being released. interesting to hear the remix (es). > >surprising they re-assigned the catalogue no , i didn't think labels generally did that. the ovo mix 12" is another one i've never tracked down ; is it worth having? p > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 20:27:15 -0600 From: Jorge Punaro Subject: RE: Sorry/Jah Wobble 12" Both Can albums were re-released on cd by Mute/Spoon Saludos Jorge >if you want. By the way, does anyone know if Can's Landed and Flow Motion >were ever released on CD? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 23:40:44 -0400 From: "Moshe Imel" Subject: RE: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 Anyone got anything planned for the Wire gig in D.C. next week? I'm totally excited and wouldn't mind partying with some good DC Wire folk. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Tim Maher Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:03 PM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V3 #118 > > Anyone know the name of that middle eastern sounding poppy song Wobble > did with Sinead o'connor before she got famous? > You are thinking of "Visions of you". It was released as a single and also appears on "Rising Above Bedlam" Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 21:47:29 -0700 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Wire in SF x 2 [Originally sent last night, but I goofed on a lil' mail config thing here on my friend's machine...] Since I'm also doing touristy-type stuff and have only limited access & time for computer stuff, I'll save full reviews for later. But here's my brief take on the two San Francisco shows: GAMH: Almost as intense as the Royal Festival Hall. Local pal Bradley Skaught and I spend the show directly in front of Graham, and Bradley turns around to me afterwards and says "it doesn't get any better than this! Wow." "Advantage in Height" sticks in my mind as the standout (!!!), but everything was spot-on. The show was completely sold out. FILLMORE: This being my third Wire show, I become the snobby connoisseur -- the first part of the set seemed to lack a little something, but probably only by comparison to RFH and GAMH. However, the show picked up momentum as it went along, and turned into a rip-roaring humdinger for the last two-thirds. Highlights tonight included a brutal "Lowdown," a majestic "Mercy," Colin's hilarious dance during "12XU," and a version of "Drill" that seemed to run at even a faster tempo and more blaring volume than the previous night's. The house was only about 3/4 full, vs. the GAMH sellout, but this crowd was even *more* into the show: even after the house lights came up and the P.A. music started playing, 3/4 of the audience stood there for another ten minutes, refusing to give up, stomping, cheering wildly. They didn't disperse until the crew started breaking down the set. Same setlist as GAMH, which will probably be true for the entire tour. [Also, whoever said that the SF sets are the *same* as RFH is somewhat mistaken -- the SF sets were considerably shorter. For instance, no "Serious of Snakes," no "Art of Persistence," and more I think. Plus "Drill" is the final encore, as planned at RFH but not executed after the band followed Colin off after "12XU."] I feel privileged to have seen Wire at all on this tour, let alone the three times I've done it, and I can't imagine anyone being disappointed at all with their show. Colin, Graham, Bruce, and Robert have lightning in a bottle again, and I urge everyone in the U.S. to try to catch them while you've got the chance. I've now traveled from Nashville to both London and San Francisco to see them, and if I could afford it, I'd follow them around for every U.S. date. There is nothing better. later, Miles ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #119 *******************************