From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #100 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, April 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 100 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: Remaster my Senses [Wireviews ] Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV [Casper Milquetoast ] Re: chicago? ["tube disaster" ] Fashion [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: Fashion [Aaron Mandel ] Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: Fashion [Steve Finch ] Fashion [Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk] Re: All Tommorows Parties ["Stephen Jackson" ] The Newman Octopus [MihokoMk@aol.com] The Newman Octopus [MihokoMk@aol.com] Re: Fashion [Brian Barnett ] Re: Fashion [Carl Archer ] Re: Fashion [MikeSpain@aol.com] History For Sale ["Steve Loubert" ] Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV [Casper Milquetoast Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV Jeez - if you guys are really nice, maybe I'll make a QuickTime of my Windowlicker video. Oh, yeah, maybe the dancing bear video (Donkey Rhubarb is the title) as well. (^_^) - -Paul ...who also has the Come To Daddy and On videos as well. - ---------- > From: Casper Milquetoast > To: > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:14 PM > > With the exception of one video I've seen, just about every Aphex Twin > video is a masterpeice of cinema. I've been looking for a quicktime > version of Window Licker and any other video off of the Come To Daddy > set. I cannot remember the song for the life of me (probably film or the > track following) but it contains these large "grateful deadish" bears > with the RDJ face stamped into it. It has to be the most hilarious peice > of film I have ever witnessed. If anyone has a quicktime version of that > I *might* be able to hook you up with a copy of the Chris Conningham > (spel?) video "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher (because whatever > peice of film this man touches is beautiful). I just have to figure a > way to get it off the cd to send. > > casper > > ian barrett wrote: > > > > On 11/April/2000 wrote > > > > > I was there so I'll talk about it..... > > > > Hats off all round to Tim! > > > > > Forgive me if I've missed anything or got the order wrong, I had > > > been listening to Aphex Twins set in the early hours of the previous > > > morning and was a little worse for wear. > > > > Speaking of Aphex Twin, MTV's (ahem) Alternative Nation* featured an > > old(er) bit of ATwin the other night, some track from "I Care Because You > > Do" or whatever it's called. ALSO Chris Morris's new series "Jam" on C4 > > has used ATwin on the soundtrack (also featured so far have been Eno, Barry > > Adamson, To Rococo Rot etc). A good viewing tip that one, if you fancy > > seeing somebody's nightmares/chemical hallucinations committed to film. > > * Don't want to be too hard on the show that brought me the videos of In > > Vivo, Post Code Orange and something from My Pet Fish, but whenever I watch > > (and it's the only reason I retain MTV) I usually feel pretty let down. Did > > it have better days? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 01:33:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: Re: Remaster my Senses - --- george.m.hook@ac.com wrote: > My understanding was that they were to > be remastered and released as they had been > originally released, without bonus cuts etc. The CDs had the bonus cuts right from the start. > Instead, I hear they are simply repressings: > all Mute did was repress the old stock and put it > out there, from what I gather. Fair play to them - at least Mute are one of those labels that never allow releases to be out of print (at least as far as albums are concerned). For instance, they recently repressed He Said Hail which, at 15-odd years old, is hardly likely to go rocketing into the top 40. Also, you Americans should think yourself lucky; in the UK everything after IBTABA is still at full-price - at least you are getting the '80s/'90s stuff for a few dollars less! > I like the sound well enough (and maybe it was a > case of audio placebo: I > thought they'd be remastered so they sounded > remastered) but later Wire does > deserve a 24-bit remaster with bonus cuts and > booklets with photos and liner > notes (much like Mute's work on early Buzzcock > material). Some of the production was a bit iffy in the '80s and the quality of sampling leaves a little to be desired. I doubt the quality of sound would be that much better if they were remastered at 24bit. Also, remember Eden's book has a lot of info and pictures of Wire's '80s/1990 period (it stops just before First Letter). Although it's no longer widely available, you should be able to pick up a copy from online book stores. Finally, anyone hankering for additional tracks should pick up WMO's Coatings before the licencing agreement with Mute runs out later this year. This is the definitive collection of "alternative" '80s/'90s Wire. Craig/Wireviews. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:46:02 -0400 From: Casper Milquetoast Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV I am really really really really nice. If you don't already have it I'll do my best to get Come On My Selector which is one of the greatest Chris Conningham vids ever! Better than Come To Daddy, but the quicktime isn't nearly as cool as the real video. /me gives his soul for a Chris Conningham video set, Hell I'd settle for Come On My Selector, Come To Daddy, that Portishead one, and the Lesbian Robot Bjork video. If anyone knows anything else Chris has done please let me know. I hear he's making his own feature length film too, I smell the next David Fincher, only in black and white. And it most likely have a soundtrack equal or greater than Pi. Ohhhhhhhh Orbital Breakbeat Track......... *goes to change pants* casper Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > Jeez - if you guys are really nice, maybe I'll make a QuickTime of my > Windowlicker video. Oh, yeah, maybe the dancing bear video (Donkey Rhubarb > is the title) as well. > > (^_^) > > -Paul ...who also has the Come To Daddy and On videos as well. > > ---------- > > From: Casper Milquetoast > > To: > > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:14 PM > > > > With the exception of one video I've seen, just about every Aphex Twin > > video is a masterpeice of cinema. I've been looking for a quicktime > > version of Window Licker and any other video off of the Come To Daddy > > set. I cannot remember the song for the life of me (probably film or the > > track following) but it contains these large "grateful deadish" bears > > with the RDJ face stamped into it. It has to be the most hilarious peice > > of film I have ever witnessed. If anyone has a quicktime version of that > > I *might* be able to hook you up with a copy of the Chris Conningham > > (spel?) video "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher (because whatever > > peice of film this man touches is beautiful). I just have to figure a > > way to get it off the cd to send. > > > > casper > > > > ian barrett wrote: > > > > > > On 11/April/2000 wrote > > > > > > > I was there so I'll talk about it..... > > > > > > Hats off all round to Tim! > > > > > > > Forgive me if I've missed anything or got the order wrong, I had > > > > been listening to Aphex Twins set in the early hours of the previous > > > > morning and was a little worse for wear. > > > > > > Speaking of Aphex Twin, MTV's (ahem) Alternative Nation* featured an > > > old(er) bit of ATwin the other night, some track from "I Care Because > You > > > Do" or whatever it's called. ALSO Chris Morris's new series "Jam" on > C4 > > > has used ATwin on the soundtrack (also featured so far have been Eno, > Barry > > > Adamson, To Rococo Rot etc). A good viewing tip that one, if you fancy > > > seeing somebody's nightmares/chemical hallucinations committed to film. > > > * Don't want to be too hard on the show that brought me the videos of > In > > > Vivo, Post Code Orange and something from My Pet Fish, but whenever I > watch > > > (and it's the only reason I retain MTV) I usually feel pretty let down. > Did > > > it have better days? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:48:32 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Closer Paul, >>I seem to remember Colin playing bass and Graham keyboards on 'Finest Drops' live once.... >> they did that at the astoria 88. if you like multi-instrumentalists you could try gomez who do it perpetually.p<< That was the gig. One of my favourite Wire enounters, that one.... As for Gomez, I'm afraid I find them commendable but boring. I bought the albums which are pleasant but a bit...plodding. I guess the idea of Gomez (spacky-looking students playing delta blues) is better than the practice.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:51:50 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV had a quick look at the atp reviews in nme/mm ; only one liners but v.positive. no photos sadly. between the lines i guess they blew all these arab strap types off stage , admittedly not much of a task. that's not to slag all the arabstrapmogwaibelleandsebastian guys , but they're not exactly in yer face live acts and maybe after a hard weekends indieing something a little more forceful went down pretty well. also it really did sound like sonic youth sucked bigtime , shame as i guess they were one of the big attractions for a lot of the crowd.p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:57:02 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[4]: Closer As for Gomez, I'm afraid I find them commendable but boring. I bought the albums which are pleasant but a bit...plodding. I guess the idea of Gomez (spacky-looking students playing delta blues) is better than the practice.... Mark >>>>> i wouldn't go overboard but i think they're ok. i've seen them live at a couple of festivals and on a sunny day with a beer in your hand they came over pretty well. a thought just hit me as i'm typing ; wonder if wire are going to do stuff like reading / v2000 / glastonbury if they're asked? that could be fun......... p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:42:31 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page I've bought quite a bit of stuff off eBay the last year or so, most notably, perhaps (for purposes of this list), pragVEC's 2 singles &, uh, Modern Eon's LP. Nothing but good luck so far, though I'm still waiting for the Screamers bootleg I mailed off a money order for a month ago. Dan >i had a quick scan at ebay , problem is a) its a bit pricey b) its all us-based so postage makes a lot of small items unrealistic. does anyone here ever buy(or sell) stuff off it? certainly is a lot of wire stuff in there , nothing mega-rare though. just wondering.p > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Fwd: comment -- The Wire Page >Author: SE:qwerty@CMU.EDU at INTERNET >Date: 12/04/2000 19:26 > > >I got this email today. The D&E box contains several rare CD singles. > >Andrew > >---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- > >Could you please spread the word that I have a couple of Wire items for auction on eBay? > >Here's the numbers: >306368349 - the Document & Eyewitness box set 306372989 - the "Eardrum Buzz" CD3 > >I'd like to see this stuff go to a good home. :) > >Cheers >chasmÉmac.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:50:11 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Mary Lou Lord/Bevis Frond/Mormon Tabernacle Choir do >Which I suppose makes it Patti's equivalent of Outdoor Miner -- a great, but over-covered song. > >Dan >>>>>> too true , did you ever hear it butchered by the mission? Was looking at the album that's on -- First Testament, or something like that -- yesterday evening at a local used shop, but discretion being the better part of valor, walked out without it ... though, in a sentimental mood, I did trundle home Ian Dury's Laughter, Lord Upminster & Warts & Audience, not to mention -- having dropped by in the first place to extoll the album to a coworker of Irish descent, a guy who's a *shudder* Jimmy Buffett "parrothead" but let slip that the Clash's albums had helped awaken him politically way back when -- the CD of SLF's Inflammable Material (the vinyl was half of my first-ever music mail-order back around 1/79, along with Chairs Missing ... see, actual Wire relevance here!). Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:53:06 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: chicago? Any idea of how ticket sales are going for the Chicago gig? My ship (a very small one ... more like a raft, actually) having come in a few days ago after months of anticipation, I find myself actually able, in theory, to afford a flight to & from, though being penurious I'm struggling to make a decision. I know the Metro isn't *huge* -- I saw the Buzzcocks there in November after a 10-hour drive & was sort of surprised at just how big it wasn't, having heard about the place for years & years. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:59:48 -0700 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: chicago? Of course, I'm typing this in a moment of weakness while dubbing Behind the Curtain & the Peel Sessions for a friend in exchange for his dub awhile back of the Fall Live '77 CD (which Forced Exposure shipped me last week, thank god) ... Dan > >Any idea of how ticket sales are going for the Chicago gig? My ship (a very >small one ... more like a raft, actually) having come in a few days ago >after months of anticipation, I find myself actually able, in theory, to >afford a flight to & from, though being penurious I'm struggling to make a >decision. I know the Metro isn't *huge* -- I saw the Buzzcocks there in >November after a 10-hour drive & was sort of surprised at just how big it >wasn't, having heard about the place for years & years. > >Dan > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:37:23 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Fashion I need songs about / mentioning fashion for a BBC TV programme. Can anyone help? Email before 5:60pm GMT. Cheers, Chris. The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:52:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Fashion On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk wrote: > I need songs about / mentioning fashion for a BBC TV programme. Can anyone > help? Email before 5:60pm GMT. The Fall - North West Fashion Show (on Cerebral Caustic) They Might Be Giants - Nothing's Gonna Change My Clothes (s/t first album) Moonshake - Secondhand Clothes (Eva Luna) Hollies - Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress Helen Love - Punk Boy (Radio Hits Vol. 2) and then there's "Dedicated Follower Of Fashion" and... "I'm Too Sexy". a lot of Wire songs would qualify, depending on how obviously it has to be about fashion. "The King Of Ur", for instance. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:48:44 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV Okay, that's cool. You'll have to wait for the weekend though - I'm pretty booked up today. (^_^) I've got the Lesbian Robot Bjork video as well. Did you get a quicktime of that? The Bjork single has a great video capture of that, although I did buy the DVD single. Say - speaking of Chris Cunningham, have you ever seen the video he did for Autechre? For the song Second Bad Vibel, I believe. Really disturbing, and cool. I have that on tape - maybe I should digitize that as well? (Got it off MTV's AMP, when it was super cool!) Cheers, Paul - ---------- > From: Casper Milquetoast > To: > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 1:46 AM > > I am really really really really nice. If you don't already have it I'll > do my best to get Come On My Selector which is one of the greatest Chris > Conningham vids ever! Better than Come To Daddy, but the quicktime isn't > nearly as cool as the real video. > > /me gives his soul for a Chris Conningham video set, Hell I'd settle for > Come On My Selector, Come To Daddy, that Portishead one, and the Lesbian > Robot Bjork video. If anyone knows anything else Chris has done please > let me know. I hear he's making his own feature length film too, I smell > the next David Fincher, only in black and white. And it most likely have > a soundtrack equal or greater than Pi. > > Ohhhhhhhh Orbital Breakbeat Track......... > > *goes to change pants* > > casper > > Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > > > Jeez - if you guys are really nice, maybe I'll make a QuickTime of my > > Windowlicker video. Oh, yeah, maybe the dancing bear video (Donkey Rhubarb > > is the title) as well. > > > > (^_^) > > > > -Paul ...who also has the Come To Daddy and On videos as well. > > > > ---------- > > > From: Casper Milquetoast > > > To: > > > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > > > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:14 PM > > > > > > With the exception of one video I've seen, just about every Aphex Twin > > > video is a masterpeice of cinema. I've been looking for a quicktime > > > version of Window Licker and any other video off of the Come To Daddy > > > set. I cannot remember the song for the life of me (probably film or the > > > track following) but it contains these large "grateful deadish" bears > > > with the RDJ face stamped into it. It has to be the most hilarious peice > > > of film I have ever witnessed. If anyone has a quicktime version of that > > > I *might* be able to hook you up with a copy of the Chris Conningham > > > (spel?) video "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher (because whatever > > > peice of film this man touches is beautiful). I just have to figure a > > > way to get it off the cd to send. > > > > > > casper > > > > > > ian barrett wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/April/2000 wrote > > > > > > > > > I was there so I'll talk about it..... > > > > > > > > Hats off all round to Tim! > > > > > > > > > Forgive me if I've missed anything or got the order wrong, I had > > > > > been listening to Aphex Twins set in the early hours of the previous > > > > > morning and was a little worse for wear. > > > > > > > > Speaking of Aphex Twin, MTV's (ahem) Alternative Nation* featured an > > > > old(er) bit of ATwin the other night, some track from "I Care Because > > You > > > > Do" or whatever it's called. ALSO Chris Morris's new series "Jam" on > > C4 > > > > has used ATwin on the soundtrack (also featured so far have been Eno, > > Barry > > > > Adamson, To Rococo Rot etc). A good viewing tip that one, if you fancy > > > > seeing somebody's nightmares/chemical hallucinations committed to film. > > > > * Don't want to be too hard on the show that brought me the videos of > > In > > > > Vivo, Post Code Orange and something from My Pet Fish, but whenever I > > watch > > > > (and it's the only reason I retain MTV) I usually feel pretty let down. > > Did > > > > it have better days? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:52:35 +0100 From: Steve Finch Subject: Re: Fashion Baggy trousers -madness she's in fashion -suede fashion -bowie up on the catwalk -simple minds blue suede shoes- presley she's so modern- boomtown rats the model -kraftwerk steve In message <802568C1.0055B17F.00@gblovhns90.medas.co.uk>, Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk writes > > > >I need songs about / mentioning fashion for a BBC TV programme. Can anyone >help? Email before 5:60pm GMT. > >Cheers, > >Chris. > > >The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged >and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the >intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or >use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. > > - -- Steve Finch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:32:15 +0100 From: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk Subject: Fashion Thanks for your help with my query. You're a great research tool! The music is for a BBC programme called Watchdog. As yet I don't know which track they'll use but I shall keep you informed. Ta very much!!! Chris. Mailto:Chris.Ray@MedAS.Co.UK The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:18:46 +0100 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties There was a little bit in the NME about Wire sounding "fantastic" and having more allure than bands half their age, but we already knew that Graham Lewis is "Very Cool Indeed" ( a quote from the 80s, from the same publication) Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anger is an energy. - -----Original Message----- From: timrobinson@cwcom.net To: idealcopy@smoe.org Date: 12 April 2000 23:59 Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties >I'm rather confused! >Weren't Wire supposed to be playing on Sunday 9th? >If so, what happened? Don't people want to talk about it? I was there so I'll talk about it..... Pontins Holiday Camp at Camber Sands is a far cry from the Royal Festival Hall. It resembles an open prison for young offenders, only with a fantastic beach, people in Panda costumes, Crazy Golf and a Go-Cart track...which is quite a surreal location for a three day festival of lo-fi guitar mangling. On the Saturday I managed to grab a quick chat with Colin outside a giant polysterene Octupus(?!). The whole band had come down the previous day and had been watching Shellac and Sonic Youth. If you've read the music papers this week you'll know Sonic Youth did, as David St Hubbins of Spinal Tap once said "..a freeform jazz exploration in front a..er..festival crowd". Colin agreed that they were not much cop. Colin seemed really enthusiastic about playing, I found it hard to get a word in really! He told me Wire were currently mixing live tapes of the RFH show for a possible live record, and that he was particularly pleased with Boiling Boy & Lowdown. He said they had started with about 40 songs when planning the current gigs and were basically playing the ones that they felt they could play with conviction...and had the easiest chords. He also said the songs were starting to morph and change quite radically the more they played them. He asked me if I enjoyed the RFH show. I did. Wire did not dissapoint, in fact my co-festival goers, most of whom were not fans felt that they played with more energy and impact than most of the other bands at the festival. It was great to be down the front after having watched them from up in the circle in the rather stuffy, rarified atmosphere of the RFH. The main stage was running 1hr late which according to NME was down to Wire soundchecking for two hours. It was worth it.. The sound was excellent, everything you'd expect. Plenty of buzz, roar and duggagagagaga!. Graham added a bassline reminiscent of Ahead to the closing bars of Boiling Boy which sounded more energetic than at the RFH. Mercy was breathtaking, Advantage....was played like an out-take from Pink Flag complete with truncated ending and sounded superb. Another the Letter sounded stunningly fresh. They made an endearing mess of 12XU, probably deliberate... After their allotted time was up Wire started to leave the stage but someone in the wings gestured for them to play on so they did the only decent thing and launched into 10 minutes of the best 'Drill' I have ever heard, complete with a few hearty screams from Graham and a fabulous false ending. Colin teased everyone by edging closer and closer to the mike and eventually sang "Could this be a Drill" and off they went. Graham stood for a few moments clutching his head as the others left the stage.....I'm not sure if this was some kind of theatrical gesture of whether he had done himself a mishchief...who knows. You couldn't follow that really...Mogwai were on next and despite being half Wire's age, sounded like Yes in comparison. for Fact fans The set list was something along the lines of: Pink Flag, Silk Skin Paws, Boiling Boy, new song, 40 Versions, The Lowdown, Mercy, Advantage in Height, 12XU, Another the Letter, Drill Forgive me if I've missed anything or got the order wrong, I had been listening to Aphex Twins set in the early hours of the previous morning and was a little worse for wear. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:16:34 EDT From: MihokoMk@aol.com Subject: The Newman Octopus >>On the Saturday I managed to grab a quick chat with Colin outside a giant polysterene Octupus(?!).<< What could be better? Perhaps Edvard Lewis in Arabian headress riding an ostrich on the beach... slowly morphing into 'Big Bird' from 'Sesame Street'. Cut to Beekeeper smoking in studio, with Debbie Harry and assorted noisy muppets. "Wire was brought to you by the letters W, I, R and not forgetting E, one of the most useful inventions they utilise." Mr Colin Newman kindly sent the first letter. Stopped avoiding points C & D years ago. What could be better than a pink flag in a specimen jar? A snakedrill! Obviously. More nonsense from the warped PC of Fibreglass Messiah PS. Michel Faber won the paper lung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The answer was 'Pieta' PPS. Found this snippet in a Tobin Sprout (ex-Guided By Voices guitarist) interview on the Matador site (www.matador.recs.com) which I only looked at because I thought it was a slagging from the caustic tongue of Steve Albini!!! Hey, I like GBV and I never really spotted the Wire influence... >>Mo: Was Fig. 4 pretty different from GBV when they were both around? Tobin: They probably both had that Wire influence, that same '60s/'70s pop influence, but it seems we were a little more instrumental. It kind of had a surf-punk sound to it--the drummer was just hyper and play everything twice as fast as it should be, and the bass player could keep up with him--the bass player was Dan Toohey, who's been on some GBV stuff. He could play a fretless bass and was just all over that thing, and all I had to do was pound out these chords and it sounded pretty amazing.<< So has anyone out there heard this Fig 4 band? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:16:33 EDT From: MihokoMk@aol.com Subject: The Newman Octopus >>On the Saturday I managed to grab a quick chat with Colin outside a giant polysterene Octupus(?!).<< What could be better? Perhaps Edvard Lewis in Arabian headress riding an ostrich on the beach... slowly morphing into 'Big Bird' from 'Sesame Street'. Cut to Beekeeper smoking in studio, with Debbie Harry and assorted noisy muppets. "Wire was brought to you by the letters W, I, R and not forgetting E, one of the most useful inventions they utilise." Mr Colin Newman kindly sent the first letter. Stopped avoiding points C & D years ago. What could be better than a pink flag in a specimen jar? A snakedrill! Obviously. More nonsense from the warped PC of Fibreglass Messiah PS. Michel Faber won the paper lung!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The answer was 'Pieta' PPS. Found this snippet in a Tobin Sprout (ex-Guided By Voices guitarist) interview on the Matador site (www.matador.recs.com) which I only looked at because I thought it was a slagging from the caustic tongue of Steve Albini!!! Hey, I like GBV and I never really spotted the Wire influence... >>Mo: Was Fig. 4 pretty different from GBV when they were both around? Tobin: They probably both had that Wire influence, that same '60s/'70s pop influence, but it seems we were a little more instrumental. It kind of had a surf-punk sound to it--the drummer was just hyper and play everything twice as fast as it should be, and the bass player could keep up with him--the bass player was Dan Toohey, who's been on some GBV stuff. He could play a fretless bass and was just all over that thing, and all I had to do was pound out these chords and it sounded pretty amazing.<< So has anyone out there heard this Fig 4 band? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:39:36 -0700 From: Brian Barnett Subject: Re: Fashion Revolt into fashion, Bill Nelson. Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk wrote: > I need songs about / mentioning fashion for a BBC TV programme. Can anyone > help? Email before 5:60pm GMT. > > Cheers, > > Chris. > > The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged > and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the > intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or > use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:16:24 -0400 From: Carl Archer Subject: Re: Fashion What about Dress by P J Harvey? > From: Steve Finch > Reply-To: Steve Finch > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:52:35 +0100 > To: Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org, Alison_Kingsley-Hall%BBC@medas.co.uk > Subject: Re: Fashion > > > > Baggy trousers -madness > she's in fashion -suede > fashion -bowie > up on the catwalk -simple minds > blue suede shoes- presley > she's so modern- boomtown rats > the model -kraftwerk > > steve > > > In message <802568C1.0055B17F.00@gblovhns90.medas.co.uk>, > Chris.Ray@medas.co.uk writes >> >> >> >> I need songs about / mentioning fashion for a BBC TV programme. Can anyone >> help? Email before 5:60pm GMT. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Chris. >> >> >> The Information in this communication is confidential and may be privileged >> and should be treated by the recipient accordingly. If you are not the >> intended recipient please notify me immediately. You should not copy it or >> use it for any purpose nor disclose its contents to any other person. >> >> > > -- > Steve Finch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:08:03 EDT From: MikeSpain@aol.com Subject: Re: Fashion In a message dated 4/14/00 5:41:32 PM, bbarnett@grin.net writes: >Revolt into fashion, Bill Nelson. Revolt Into Style George Melly, about the sixties, in his very readable book. He really nailed it. MS. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:08:35 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: History For Sale www.letitberecords.com has a copy of "Everybody Loves a History" listed on their website. $18.50. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:22:49 -0400 From: Casper Milquetoast Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV Cool cool, i haven't seen the autechre vid yet, but i had heard about it and saw a small clip of it on the amp website but not enough to make any impression. i won't be able to respond to mail through this account for about a week or so unless i find a way to do it from home. either way if you give me song links as to where i could get them i'll do my best to extract the squarepusher vid and send it to you. casper Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > Okay, that's cool. You'll have to wait for the weekend though - I'm pretty > booked up today. (^_^) > > I've got the Lesbian Robot Bjork video as well. Did you get a quicktime of > that? The Bjork single has a great video capture of that, although I did > buy the DVD single. > > Say - speaking of Chris Cunningham, have you ever seen the video he did for > Autechre? For the song Second Bad Vibel, I believe. Really disturbing, > and cool. I have that on tape - maybe I should digitize that as well? > (Got it off MTV's AMP, when it was super cool!) > > Cheers, > Paul > > ---------- > > From: Casper Milquetoast > > To: > > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > > Date: Friday, April 14, 2000 1:46 AM > > > > I am really really really really nice. If you don't already have it I'll > > do my best to get Come On My Selector which is one of the greatest Chris > > Conningham vids ever! Better than Come To Daddy, but the quicktime isn't > > nearly as cool as the real video. > > > > /me gives his soul for a Chris Conningham video set, Hell I'd settle for > > Come On My Selector, Come To Daddy, that Portishead one, and the Lesbian > > Robot Bjork video. If anyone knows anything else Chris has done please > > let me know. I hear he's making his own feature length film too, I smell > > the next David Fincher, only in black and white. And it most likely have > > a soundtrack equal or greater than Pi. > > > > Ohhhhhhhh Orbital Breakbeat Track......... > > > > *goes to change pants* > > > > casper > > > > Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > > > > > > Jeez - if you guys are really nice, maybe I'll make a QuickTime of my > > > Windowlicker video. Oh, yeah, maybe the dancing bear video (Donkey > Rhubarb > > > is the title) as well. > > > > > > (^_^) > > > > > > -Paul ...who also has the Come To Daddy and On videos as well. > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Casper Milquetoast > > > > To: > > > > Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org > > > > Subject: Re: All Tommorows Parties/Jam/MTV > > > > Date: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:14 PM > > > > > > > > With the exception of one video I've seen, just about every Aphex > Twin > > > > video is a masterpeice of cinema. I've been looking for a quicktime > > > > version of Window Licker and any other video off of the Come To Daddy > > > > set. I cannot remember the song for the life of me (probably film or > the > > > > track following) but it contains these large "grateful deadish" bears > > > > with the RDJ face stamped into it. It has to be the most hilarious > peice > > > > of film I have ever witnessed. If anyone has a quicktime version of > that > > > > I *might* be able to hook you up with a copy of the Chris Conningham > > > > (spel?) video "Come On My Selector" by Squarepusher (because whatever > > > > peice of film this man touches is beautiful). I just have to figure a > > > > way to get it off the cd to send. > > > > > > > > casper > > > > > > > > ian barrett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 11/April/2000 wrote > > > > > > > > > > > I was there so I'll talk about it..... > > > > > > > > > > Hats off all round to Tim! > > > > > > > > > > > Forgive me if I've missed anything or got the order wrong, I had > > > > > > been listening to Aphex Twins set in the early hours of the > previous > > > > > > morning and was a little worse for wear. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of Aphex Twin, MTV's (ahem) Alternative Nation* featured > an > > > > > old(er) bit of ATwin the other night, some track from "I Care > Because > > > You > > > > > Do" or whatever it's called. ALSO Chris Morris's new series "Jam" > on > > > C4 > > > > > has used ATwin on the soundtrack (also featured so far have been > Eno, > > > Barry > > > > > Adamson, To Rococo Rot etc). A good viewing tip that one, if you > fancy > > > > > seeing somebody's nightmares/chemical hallucinations committed to > film. > > > > > * Don't want to be too hard on the show that brought me the videos > of > > > In > > > > > Vivo, Post Code Orange and something from My Pet Fish, but whenever > I > > > watch > > > > > (and it's the only reason I retain MTV) I usually feel pretty let > down. > > > Did > > > > > it have better days? ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #100 *******************************