From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #97 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, April 12 2000 Volume 03 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Edward Barton [John Roberts ] Edward Barton [Howard Spencer ] Re: Elastica [Ian Grant ] Re: Edward Barton [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Originality/Creating a facsimile... ["ian barrett" ] Re: all tomorrows parties [Joshua ] re: High Fidelity2 [BillyD ] Mary Lou Lord/Bevis Frond do Wire ["Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" Subject: Edward Barton There were a couple of 12" singles after the awesome Tube performances single: 'I've Got No Chickens But I've Got Five Wooden Chairs/Me and My Mini'. This was followed by an album of other MCR artists covering Ed's songs (e.g. Jane, Inspiral Carpets, 808 State, A Guy Called Gerald, Dub Sex, etc.) and an album of his own work all on Wooden Records. I suppose you know that he's the guy who can be seen meandering around on the orig James 'Sit Down' video which he directed in some capacity. When I used to work for Rough Trade he actually phoned our office asking what he could do to improve sales. To say that it was a strange conversation would be an understatement. One of our accounts was the Eastern Bloc shop in MCR where 808 State came from - they used to tell us stories about him having knocked two flats thru, that he used to grow cabbages indoors until they bolted and looked like trees, that he used to collect old shoes - hence the pics of old shoes on his album cover etc etc. (No offence meant for any listers that collect old shoes, grow cabbages etc.) There are also some books and a couple of smashing shirts. I think I'd better go and have a lie down now. John On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > John, > > << Ah, Edward Barton. Now we're talking. Come on, how many of you can > recite 'Knob Gob', 'The Man Who Killed My Brother' or 'Chickens...Chairs'? > > Yup. Most definitely an original. >> > > I remember seeing him perform on the Tube on UK TV once, which was extreme > and highly amusing.... This meek looking guy just exploded, eyes bulging, > thrashing the f*** out of an acoustic guitar. I think the song was called "Me > and my mini" but I'm going from memory...Is there a best of? > > Mark > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:46:30 +0100 From: Howard Spencer Subject: Edward Barton Dear John/listers, I need to know more about this man Barton. Jane was Jane Barton, so presumbaly the wife or sister? I might be off the pace here, as I susbscribe to the digest. I own the single by Jane and know there was an album too. Seem to recall that it made Virginia Astley sound like Metallica. And does anyone know what happened to Virginia Astley, or for that matter any other members of the Ravishing Beauties? Seeing Elastica tonight - thanks for the review Paul, makes fairly encouraging reading. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:46:59 +0100 From: Ian Grant Subject: Re: Elastica At 04:30 11/04/00 -0400, Bren wrote: >And to add to Elastica's appreciation of Wire they >played '12xu' an an encore at their Astoria show in Jan, >with Mr Gilbert air-guitaring in the wings. Hang on, Bruce Gilbert playing air guitar? Bearing in mind his usual playing style, how would that differ from Bruce Gilbert standing absolutely still? :) Cheers, ig. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:07:14 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Edward Barton Hi John, >>There were a couple of 12" singles after the awesome Tube performances single: 'I've Got No Chickens But I've Got Five Wooden Chairs/Me and My Mini'. This was followed by an album of other MCR artists covering Ed's songs (e.g. Jane, Inspiral Carpets, 808 State, A Guy Called Gerald, Dub Sex, etc.) and an album of his own work all on Wooden Records.<< I need to seek these out.... >>I suppose you know that he's the guy who can be seen meandering around on the orig James 'Sit Down' video which he directed in some capacity. When I used to work for Rough Trade he actually phoned our office asking what he could do to improve sales. To say that it was a strange conversation would be an understatement. One of our accounts was the Eastern Bloc shop in MCR where 808 State came from<< In the strangely circular way of the list, the Eastern Bloc shop was named after a Crispy Ambulance song....the link is via Graham Massey, whose dad managed both the Crispys and Biting Tongues, Graham Massey's pre-808 band..... >>they used to tell us stories about him having knocked two flats thru, that he used to grow cabbages indoors until they bolted and looked like trees, that he used to collect old shoes - hence the pics of old shoes on his album cover etc etc. (No offence meant for any listers that collect old shoes, grow cabbages etc.)<< Genuine 100% proof art rock nutter....we need more of these people!! Cheers, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:41:24 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: Originality/Creating a facsimile... I saw Edward supporting World Domination Enterprises in Manchester in 1988. I took along a couple of Japanese women (big fans of the likes of Skinny Puppy, Frontline Assembly et al) who were visiting me at the time, and they were completely mystified. My own personal favourite that evening was, I believe, entitled 'Barber, Barber' although Knob Gob was an uncanny representation of a number of people I've met - ----- Original Message ----- From: John Roberts To: Cc: Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Originality/Creating a facsimile... > Ah, Edward Barton. Now we're talking. Come on, how many of you can > recite 'Knob Gob', 'The Man Who Killed My Brother' or 'Chickens...Chairs'? > > Yup. Most definitely an original. > > > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > Ray, > > > > << Orbital sampling 8 seconds of vocals from Opus III's "A Fine Day" (and > > giving proper credit), and turning it into a work of art that FAR surpassed > > the original in "Halcyon + on + on". >> > > > > Credit to whom? The Opus III version is itself a sample (or rerecording) of > > the original 'It's a fine day', released in the mid-80s as an acappella song > > by Jane, and written by Edward Barton.... > > > > Mark > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:18:28 +0100 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: all tomorrows parties I'm rather confused! Weren't Wire supposed to be playing on Sunday 9th? If so, what happened? Don't people want to talk about it? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:30:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Subject: Re: all tomorrows parties On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, ian barrett wrote: > I'm rather confused! > Weren't Wire supposed to be playing on Sunday 9th? > If so, what happened? Don't people want to talk about it? Please don't ever mention it again. I'll never get another dog like that, and I don't know how I can *possibly* collect on that bet. - -Joshua ___ ___ http://www.swingpad.com (Digital Art and Artisanship) - --- --- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: BillyD Subject: re: High Fidelity2 We RARELY go to the cinema, but my wife and I enjoyed this movie. I guess it really appeals to the 30+ crowd with large music collections who happened to work in a record shop... - --- Jack Steinmann wrote: > Top Five Best Things about High Fidelity: > > 5) Before and After Science makes THREE > appearances. > 4) It's very funny. > 3) It's funny because it's all sadly true. (Okay, > maybe not the Lisa Bonet part.) > 2) If you do have a life you will leave the theater > doubly grateful for it. > 1) If you don't have a life you will leave highly > motivated to quick get one NOW before it's all over > (is the owner of Vintage Vinyl listening?). > > > Jack > > > webmaster wrote: > >Wire fans take note, the beloved Pink Flag album > cover makes a cameo > >appearance in the Chicago-esque remake of Nick > Hornby's great book; and > >film... > > > >charles > > > >shop@wiremailorder.com > >http://wiremailorder.com > > > > > > > ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:41:02 -0400 From: "Lee S. Kilpatrick (Mr. Breeze)" Subject: Mary Lou Lord/Bevis Frond do Wire From the Mary Lou Lord mailing list; there's a radio station compilation coming out with "Outdoor Miner". If I find out more, I'll keep you posted. Lee From: "david lewis" Subject: Re: T>A>Z comp Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 16:06:07 EDT Hey Rachel, The T>A>Z comp is in a bit of finacial limbo right now, but it looks like as of 2:00 today our loan went thru. So we will press asap (I would guess that the record will be out by May). The Mary Lou Lord track is herself and the bevis frond doing a rocking full electric cover of wire's "outdoor miner". When the record comes out there will be a web site where you can order, but it should be distributed to most indie stores. I'm trying to keep the price down, right now it's around $15, but that's not to bad for a limited edition double disk with hand made packaging. Feel free to ask me any other questions you might have. Thanks for the interest, Respect, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:52:24 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Mary Lou Lord/Bevis Frond do Wire Lee, << From the Mary Lou Lord mailing list; there's a radio station compilation coming out with "Outdoor Miner". If I find out more, I'll keep you posted. >> Don't you just wish these people would come up with another f***ing Wire song to cover???? Why the obsesion with shining daylight on magic. Only time I ever saw it covered in any way properly was as an encore by Felt.... Mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #97 ******************************