From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #70 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, March 20 2000 Volume 03 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bulldog bashing [Max Schmid ] Sexy and Rich ["Stephen Jackson" ] Re: plastic punks and no inertia..... [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Yankee bashing [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Belgian-bashing [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Sexy and Rich [geoffry ] Re: Sexy and Rich [Wireviews ] Swim Team #1 ["ian barrett" ] Re: Swim Team #1 [Wireviews ] S.F. on-sale date(s)? [Miles Goosens ] Re[2]: Miserable fat Belgian bastards [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re[4]: Belgian-bashing-overpriced vinyl [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: Swim Team #1 [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 04:54:28 -0500 From: Max Schmid Subject: Re: Bulldog bashing At 04:30 AM 3/19/2000 -0500, Eardrumbuz wrote: >Subject: Re: Bergan-bashing >> >>Why do people always have to mock New Jersey? > >no harm meant. it was just begging me to type it. i'll try to refrain from >such adolescent humor in the future. so, what exit are you from? > >just kidding. couldn't resist. :o) anyway, i'm from lawnguyland (note to >those on the other side of the pond: that's how many a new yawker would >pronounce long island). there are too many wrestling fans right here! at >least 99 & 44/100ths% of them won't be at the wire gig in may! Well I know at least two heavily marked out types who will be! This wrestling-bashing has got to stop. Remember, Wire make music, but Foley is God! (Even at the Meadowlands) ((Isn't it good to confuse the Brits with obscure references for a change?)) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:44:53 -0000 From: "Stephen Jackson" Subject: Sexy and Rich I've just downloaded this from The Wire Page, and was surprised to hear Lewis singing Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" ;-) Anyone know where I can get a copy of Vien from? Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Out of the Void. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:43:53 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: plastic punks and no inertia..... George, Oh hell, what have I started!!! >>Front 242, Jacques Brel, Georges Simenon, Rene Magritte, the Neon Judgement, A Split Second, Herge, Eddy Merckx, Cesar Franck<< Well, I will diasllow the three Belgian indie groups as they are just not famous enough! You could have Jacky Ickx and Jean-claude van Damme instead, I guess! So along with PB there's nine....need one more Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 09:54:03 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Yankee bashing In a message dated 3/19/2000 10:01:55, you write: << Well I know at least two heavily marked out types who will be! This wrestling-bashing has got to stop. Remember, Wire make music, but Foley is God! (Even at the Meadowlands) ((Isn't it good to confuse the Brits with obscure references for a change?)) >> Hmm..wrestling. Marvellous...Kent Walton, Saturday evening, little old ladies at the ring side. Kendo Nagasaki, Honey Boy Zimba, Mick McManus....Marvelous isn't it....Small boys, Jumpers for goalposts etc.... (We can confuse you yanks just as obscurely.....) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 10:00:40 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Belgian-bashing In a message dated 3/18/2000 04:45:28, you write: << so anyway, were the names from belgium? now there's one great band to make up for all the crap! >> The Names were a good band - I nearly saw them once. Billed as support to A Certain Ratio at the Beach Club in Manchester, July 1980, they failed to turn up. Replacement band was a new (and then unnamed) Mancunian trio... New Order. First gig since Ian Curtis died. Stunning. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:51:45 -0500 From: geoffry Subject: Re: Sexy and Rich Vien is the only non-wmo wir(e) cd that wmo have available. I think they're selling it for 10 US dollars. Incidentally, I remember a subject thread about a year ago that discussed this cd, and a lot of people really liked it. I agree, it's a nice little cd. No Robert Palmer comparisons were made though.... and Lewis suitably mangled this track on 'Catch Supposes' (an Itch). g. Stephen Jackson wrote: > I've just downloaded this from The Wire Page, and was surprised to hear > Lewis singing Robert Palmer's "Addicted to Love" ;-) > > Anyone know where I can get a copy of Vien from? > > Steve. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Out of the Void. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 11:27:28 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: Re: Sexy and Rich - --- geoffry wrote: > Incidentally, I remember a subject thread about a > year ago that discussed > this cd, and a lot of people really liked it. I > agree, it's a nice little > cd. No Robert Palmer comparisons were made > though.... From the Wireviews review of Vien: " The second track, Sexy and Rich*, is a more mellow affair with a cynical text about sex and money. It's not bad, although I couldn't help thinking of Robert Palmer et al when listening to it. Graham Lewis resurrected the piece and improved it beyond measure on the He Said Omala Catch Supposes album. " :-) Craig. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:18:58 -0000 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Swim Team #1 Today's Sunday Times lists Swim Team #1 as its record of the week. It opens thus; "The recent Wire reunion disappointed a lot of people who were upset by the band's apparent lack of interest in playing the old songs. In Colin Newman' case, it's hardly surprising that he should be more interested in the work he's producing now, because it's fantastic." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:52:16 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: Re: Swim Team #1 - --- ian barrett wrote: > Today's Sunday Times lists Swim Team #1 as its > record of the week. For those that are interested, here's the full write-up: The recent Wire reunion disappointed a lot of people who were upset by the band's apparent lack of interest in playing the old songs. In Colin Newman's case, it's hardly surprising that he should be more interested in the work he is producing now, because it's fantastic. Swim Team #1 compiles tracks from the artists on the swim label, which Newman and his partner Malka Spigel, above (nb. c+m pic above review), set up back in 1993, and there isn't a duff track on it. Ranging from various collaborations involving Newman and/or Spigel, through contributions from Denmark's lo-fi Symptoms, Canada's funky Legion of Green Men, Japan's mesmerizing dol-lop, to one track by a 10-year old Bumpy, there is an amazing consistency to this culture- and age- straddling collection. Indeed, using the old music journalist's trick of putting the CD on without reading the label (to avoid colouring the listening experience with any preconceptions), I was convinced that this was all the work of one band. The finest musical moments belong to the record company bosses (and how often do you get to say that?): Spigel's beautiful The Fishes and the Shining Sea, and Newman's Blank Canvas, which sounds like something off Achtung Baby, only even nastier. Swim Team #1 is an extraordinary compilation that manages to be both challenging and highly listenable at the same time. And in a protest against rip-off Britain, those nice people at swim have chosen to sell it at the price of a 12" single. The only downside, really, is that if you get this you'll probably end up having to buy at least half a dozen albums from which the tracks were taken. MARK EDWARDS Craig/Wireviews ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:20:06 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: S.F. on-sale date(s)? Melissa and I may be travelling to the Bay Area in order to see both the May 3rd Fillmore show and the Loud Family's May 5th tour-ending blowout. Is the on-sale date for the Fillmore tickets really April 2nd as reported? That would be a Sunday, which seems like a highly unlikely day of the week for tickets sales to begin... later, listowner Miles ====================================================== Miles Goosens UNlimited edition R. Stevie Moore CDs now available! http://www.rsteviemoore.com My personal website http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France ====================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 9:50:49 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: Miserable fat Belgian bastards total synchronicity but i bought a copy of this on saturday , see what you mean about those groovy "ten famous belgians" photos now. previously i had an american copy which just came with a clear plastic inner , depriving me of the lyrics and the visual "experience"....p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Miserable fat Belgian bastards Author: MIME:CHRISWIRE@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 17/03/2000 22:43 Billy, Re: TELEX That got me hunting in my collection & sure enough an album from 1979 I had not played since ...1979." Looking for Saint Tropez". They were indeed Belgian. By the way if you have a vinyl copy of Colin,s "Commercial Suicide" the inside photos of the Belgian orchestra section is a real hoot.Check out Rino Christ & Wiet Van De Leest.Better still look at my passport photo! Regards Chriswire. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 9:50:16 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[4]: Belgian-bashing-overpriced vinyl yeah that's a great album. wonder what keith levine's doing now? he always seemed like a real talent but he just sort of vanished. drugs maybe? p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Belgian-bashing-overpriced vinyl Author: MIME:xj23@yahoo.com at INTERNET Date: 17/03/2000 19:35 I just paid $25 for a mint copy of PIL's 'Commercial Zone'. Well worth every penny, although my wife would disagree... - --- tube disaster wrote: > > > > > >PS: Plastic Bertrand is, in my opinion, the exact > equivalent of our own > Jilted John. > > For whose album I, of course, a couple of years ago > paid more than I ever > have for any other piece of vinyl after getting > tired of searching > fruitlessly for it for going on 2 decades. *sigh* > I'm hopeless. > > Dan > > > > ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ - -- -Get Well Sammy! (R)SOT Ltd. http://depechemode.acmecity.com/freestate/54 http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:10:42 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: Swim Team #1 changing subject a little , i went to a record fair on saturday and some guy had a stack of (i guess) promo/review copies. he was selling the following for £3 each , all look unplayed ; low impact 2xcd symptoms cd LOGM ; floating cd kendall turner overdrive cd swim team #1 malka ; hide oracle cd on the one hand , great to pick up nos 2,3 and 4 above so cheap. on the other hand , curses that i paid full whack for the other 4. still , i have enjoyed 'em all. really surprised to see somebody unloading stuff quite this cheap though , must really piss off the record company when stuff gets re-circulated this way so cheaply and quickly. agreed , swim team #1 is a must-have. p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Swim Team #1 Author: MIME:ian@ibarrett.fsnet.co.uk at INTERNET Date: 19/03/2000 21:20 Today's Sunday Times lists Swim Team #1 as its record of the week. It opens thus; "The recent Wire reunion disappointed a lot of people who were upset by the band's apparent lack of interest in playing the old songs. In Colin Newman' case, it's hardly surprising that he should be more interested in the work he's producing now, because it's fantastic." ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #70 ******************************