From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #48 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, February 29 2000 Volume 03 : Number 048 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: RFH [Howard Spencer ] Re[2]: RFH [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Fw: Wire and Australia ["Alex Wise" ] [none] [owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] RE: Re[2]: nottingham [Stuart Fairbrother ] RFH [Anthony Clough ] Re: Wire future/RFH [Wireviews ] Wir ["Matthew Hawes" ] RFH Set List ["charles / wmo" ] Re: RFH ["ian barrett" ] Re: rfh ["Uri Baran" ] Just a few thoughts and ramblings about the gigs... ["Mark McQuitty" ] Re: Radio silence. ["A. Izenstark" ] RFH impressions [Mark Short ] Re[2]: rfh [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:46:55 +0000 From: Howard Spencer Subject: Re: RFH I think what Graham said pre-encore was 'to paraphrase shampoo, we deserve it', in reference to the l'oreal adverts. Ironic given the display of that EXTRAORDINARY Michaal Bolton mullet on the American TV clip. I think Bruce's remarks on it deserve a rough transcription for the benefit of those not there/still in the bar: Bimbo presenter: Would you like to introduce the band? BG: Certainly. On my right we have Graham Lewis, our anthropological expert. Behind me is Robert Gotobed, our agricultural expert (close up of RG, looking like a deer caught in the headlamps). And this is Colin Newman, who I've only met. BP: (nervous laugh) So you picked him up on the street. BG: That's right. Well it made me laugh. They should go on 'Richard and Judy', who've actually had the odd decent band on - Sparks doing `National Crime Awareness Week' spring to mind. Gig was of course fantastic - dead right about the DJ set being bollocks, though it was the only part that was. Didn't manage to meet anyone, having hooked up in Nottingham with Uri, Paul, and John from the Leicester crew (bet you had a fairly good weekend, eh?). Definitely on for Highbury garage -am I sad enough to go more than once? Just possibly. I'm not finding the new CD much of a pant wetter though. 'Art of persistance' is IMO the lesser of the two new tracks and reminds me of a Joy Division song, can't think which one at the moment. Swim sampler well worth a flutter for a fiver though, for even partial devotees of Robot Music. Aren't the stern old lady door staff at the RFH something else? Howard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:18:02 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: RFH ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: RFH Author: MIME:hspencer@oup.co.uk at INTERNET Date: 28/02/2000 12:55 I think what Graham said pre-encore was 'to paraphrase shampoo, we deserve it', in reference to the l'oreal adverts. Ironic given the display of that EXTRAORDINARY Michaal Bolton mullet on the American TV clip. I think Bruce's remarks on it deserve a rough transcription for the benefit of those not there/still in the bar: >>>>> yep , that haircut sure was something....... Bimbo presenter: Would you like to introduce the band? BG: Certainly. On my right we have Graham Lewis, our anthropological expert. Behind me is Robert Gotobed, our agricultural expert (close up of RG, looking like a deer caught in the headlamps). And this is Colin Newman, who I've only met. BP: (nervous laugh) So you picked him up on the street. BG: That's right. Well it made me laugh. They should go on 'Richard and Judy', who've actually had the odd decent band on - Sparks doing `National Crime Awareness Week' spring to mind. >>>>> hey , some of us have to work in the mornings and don't get the benefit of stuff like r&j or kilroy. Gig was of course fantastic - dead right about the DJ set being bollocks, though it was the only part that was. >>>>>> i thought it was so-so , i wouldn't say it was that bad. must have been tough for daniel to resist dropping some duet emmo in there. who is this seth hodder then? Didn't manage to meet anyone, having hooked up in Nottingham with Uri, Paul, and John from the Leicester crew (bet you had a fairly good weekend, eh?). Definitely on for Highbury garage -am I sad enough to go more than once? Just possibly. >>>>> i thought i'd spot people easily but it didn't happen that way. let's organise a bit better at the hg; i rang for tickets yesterday but they're not on sale yet. I'm not finding the new CD much of a pant wetter though. 'Art of persistance' is IMO the lesser of the two new tracks and reminds me of a Joy Division song, can't think which one at the moment. >>>>>>>>> i thought it was a bit like ally in exile meets our swimmer Swim sampler well worth a flutter for a fiver though, for even partial devotees of Robot Music. >>> now i was playing that in my car all weekend , for a fiver its gotta be worth a punt to anyone Aren't the stern old lady door staff at the RFH something else? >>>> you should have seen the bouncer who had a go at me , talk about no sense of occasion........p Howard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:19:39 +1100 From: "Alex Wise" Subject: Fw: Wire and Australia > Billions Australia would be quite happy to bring Wire to Australia; it's > just going to be a matter of the band's willingness and a bit of financial > feasibility. As you say, it is more of an underground phenomenon there and > I am not yet certain Wire shows in Australia could even pay for their > travel and accommodations. I think more than likely,this could be a true factor.But then again Pereubu toured here early last year,Peter Hammil '97,and Japanese noisies Zenigeva.Sorry I forgot to mention decent acts after The Fall toured here.These acts were not that much bigger names than Wire.I wonder how their finances were spared when they tackled Down Under. > > As commercially-driven as the Big Day Out is, it is highly unlikely that > Lees and West would ever be interested in a band like Wire with no visible > sales history and no Triple J radio prospects. I highly agree that Lees and West would turn a definate blind eye to something that will not fit into their MOR closet and I would not be surprised if they had a preference of either Wire or Boys II Men,they would rather have Boys II Men play at BDO.But before Triple J became national and eventually had a commercial takeover in 1990,they used to be a very openminded alternative/underground station who definately had Wire on the playlists.That was how I got into Wire in the first place.And who was the station who hosted Lewis/Gilbert/Mills 'MZUI:Australia'?-2JJJFM.But that was 1982.Triple J funded The Livid Festival where The Fall played in 1990 before the flowers rotted away for JJJ's openness.And as far as I'm concerned, adolescents these days seem to be bigger fashion victims than they were 10 years ago particularly here. Besides, that would be a > hideously inappropriate venue in which to see Wire - thousands of > Korn-worshipping fifteen year-olds bidding for a good case of skin cancer > and a piercing or two. ....and measles,lumps,premature aging and blemishes. Indeed how hideous a venue it would be, it would be so bloody funny.Could one imagine a bunch of mongoloids in piercings,fake dreads,Korn t-shirts running around chanting 'Drill..'Drill..'Drill.....Dugga...Dugga...Dugga? or moaning along to Graham 'But I can't Wait to See the Doctorrrrrrrr.....' May the little BDO teenyboppers get a very good and leprous case of skin cancer and hopefully we shall be rid of them. > > We shall see... Fingers crossed Alex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 08:02:43 -0500 (EST) From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [none] helo=default) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12PPNo-0004J4-00 for idealcopy@smoe.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:34:40 +0000 From: "Michel Faber" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:31:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RFH gig X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: X-BadReturnPath: ablach.freeserve.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net rewritten as michelfaber@ablach.freeserve.co.uk using "From" header Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Reading the first few emails coming in from people who attended the RFH concert has been interesting for me. Proof positive that every person at a gig experiences something slightly - or remarkably - different. I've often wondered, when I've read accounts of 'legendary' and unavailable concerts, how good those concerts REALLY were. In the CD age we've seen the much-belated release of some of these and it's tended to confirm my suspicion that the music on the night probably wasn't as earthshatteringly magnificent as some people remember. The Bob Dylan Manchester AKA Albert Hall gig is a case in point - the legend grew to the point where Dylan was supposedly swapping abuse with a violently hostile audience, virtually a riot - yet the tape, when finally released, reveals one slightly pissed individual smugly hollering 'Judas!' during a quiet moment, and Dylan answering him in a drawl. This incident has been pumped up by one journalist as 'the defining moment in post-war Western culture'! Other interesting examples are The Who live at Woodstock - majestic according to legend, so-so on the tape, and The Doors live at the Isle of Wight - drunken and shambolic according to legend, surprisingly focused and accomplished on the tape. Who knows? A legend may already be growing around the Wire RFH performance. I notice that one correspondent refers to Graham Lewis saying to the crowd "You deserve it" instead of what he REALLY said, which was "We deserve it". A tiny detail, I know, but I'm struck by how, with the change of one little pronoun, a typically arrogant, fuck-you comment from Graham is transformed into a heart-warming thank-you for an already nostalgic punter to treasure! Anyway, as you may have guessed by now, I wasn't bowled over by the concert. The Immersion set (Colin Newman and Malka Spigel swaying fetchingly in front of a screen projecting her photographs) was, for me, the only part with any charm and sense of wonder. Wire themselves I found curiously uninvolving. The spectacle of four men who have grown up so much (musically) from their punk beginnings, and who are capable of creating such a rich palette of unusual sounds, instead choosing to play a straight-ahead guitar/bass/drum set was dodgy to begin with. It would have worked for me only if Wire had been driven by palpable delight, rage or mischief - instead they seemed merely cool and professional. Half- way through the set I left my terrace seat and walked down to the front, and enjoyed it rather more because at least the volume and the stomach-thump of the bass had some visceral effect, but I still didn't experience anything like the joy and the intrigue I can get any day of the week from listening to (for example) The Ideal Copy on CD. My wife and I had a very interesting conversation in the hotel afterwards. A big Wire fan, she'd felt just as uninvolved as I had, and we were able to compare this gig with the Psychic TV/ Joujouka/Thee Majesty etc extravaganza that we'd seen at the RFH some months before. The parallels - and the contrasts - were very clear. Both gigs were in some sense celebrations of a long and varied career making avant-garde/abstract/ambient/aggressive/ occasionally poppy/always uncompromising music. Like Wire, Genesis P.Orridge kept the audience 'waiting' for the main event for several hours. Unlike Wire, whose preliminary sets garnered polite applause and a few sarcastic shouts of boredom (eg, "Put on another train video!"), GPO succeeded in making a big proportion of the audience VERY pissed off indeed, with music that was genuinely confrontational. People were filing out of the building constantly - and not to the loo or the bar, but OUT. And yet a lot of the music was transcendently excellent (eg, the Master Musicians of Joujouka) - the reason the punters couldn't cope was that they'd come to see (their narrow conception of) Psychic TV, and found it painful to sit through a bunch of elderly Moroccans playing pipes and drums at alarmingly loud volume. But if you're going to challenge people's preconceptions, that's the way to do it, not by having samples of Wire songs noodling away while a largely indifferent audience fetch drinks and chat amongst themselves. The spoken word set (Genesis P/Thee Majesty) also antagonised a lot of people, but GPO engaged directly with the audience and responded to their heckling -a contrast with the complete lack of interest Wire showed in whoever might be out there in the auditorium. Especially interesting for my wife and me was the comparison of the two events when the 'main attraction' took the stage. At the Wire gig, the auditorium was still full, with most people sitting politely in their designated seats; at the Psychic TV gig, a lot of people had left and those that remained were moving freely, swarming nearer to the stage - a breakdown of order which the RFH staff were wise enough not to try to control! By the time Psychic TV finally came on, there was a hell of a lot of negative energy, which Genesis P.Orridge not only acknowledged but played with, in that repellent/seductive way he has. He put himself at real physical risk by engaging with a rowdy audience, kissing individual punters on the lips, touching their hands, etc. The music was wild. Wire, apart from a commendably subtle 'jamming' version of 'Boiling Boy', just worked their way through their set list like a tribute band, doing a sterling job. I'm not suggesting that Psychic TV are a better or more worthwhile band thatn Wire; nor am I suggesting that Wire should have flirted with the punters in the sexually manipulative way that GPO did. They're a different band with a different sensibility. Yet I do think, given how much Wire always talk about 'challenging' people, there ought to have been something more genuinely challenging about the performance. It was all so safe and self-satisfied! One of the most inspiring things about the Psychic TV gig was that it was so obvious that GPO could have handled ANYTHING, no matter what happened. He set up an unpredictable situation because he wanted to test himself and the audience; he was clearly determined to avoid complacency on anyone's part, including his own. At the Wire gig, I got the impression that if there had been the sort of booing and chemically deranged threat that there was for Psychic TV, Wire would simply have walked off and refused to play. As it happened, they were able to coast along on the good-will of uncritically committed fans. I felt sorry for the fans who'd flown all the way from the USA to be there. (Mind you, some of those fans will probably email me saying I'm talking through my arse and that the concert was the greatest night out they've ever had, an experience to treasure forever, etc) But personally, I felt that if Wire couldn't provide something unforgettably challenging or transcendently beautiful, the least they could have done would be to make contact with their fans. Graham Lewis made a half-hearted gesture towards this ("Anyone here from out of town? We are.") but it was hardly a fulsome acknowledgement of those people who spent a fortune getting to this gig from half-way across the world. Any comments, anyone? Michel Faber ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:43:31 -0000 From: Stuart Fairbrother Subject: RE: Re[2]: nottingham No Lewis did not have the Rail. Not through choice though - he had them pinched a while ago in Portugal! Yes Newman did have the weird looking white guitar. - -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Jackson [mailto:smj@zen.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 6:30 PM To: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: nottingham >stuart has gone and given the game away now ! and not a keyboard or drum machine in sight.......p All this, plus the possibility of hearing "Former Airline" on Saturday. AND my all time fave post-Harvest track, "Advantage in Height". Was Lewis playing that "Rail" bass? Was he? Was he? The one that looks like a hockey stick? Did Newman have that weird looking guitar? Steve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Out of the Void. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:07:18 +0000 () From: Anthony Clough Subject: RFH Hello, I've been lurking on this list for a while having got bogged down in technical difficulties when I tried to post before...I've been a Wire fan since buying Manequin as a new release in the stone age... A few thoughts on the RFH experience. I'd concur that they put in a great performance and, having been too lazy to see them in the 7o's, hearing Lowdown and 12XU live was an experience I thought I'd never have. It was great to see that Gilbert still looks like he doesn't know what the guitar is or why he's been given it. Anyone planning on going to the forthcoming gigs who fancies a bit of nostalgia is in for a treat. But is anyone else worried that this "one off" revisitation of the past might be getting out of hand ? The use of the Pink Flag emblem recently seems reasonable but the cards advertising the Garage gigs are using the head from Manequin and the new material, great as it was, is very much in the style of the band circa 78/9. Fantastic - I know - but how far does it go before we have to accept that this might be another band making their pension arrangements ? (20 pounds for a t-shirt.) Hope I'm wrong. Some of the audience behaviour on the night was curious. Along with some attempts at pogoing at the front I noticed at the end that despite the enthusiastic response overall, great swathes of the audience were simply starring blankly at the stage. Did they think they were too cool to clap ? NME inspired contingent ? I've never seen that response before anywhere. Regards, Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 05:47:13 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: Re: Wire future/RFH - --- Anthony Clough wrote: > But is anyone else worried that this "one > off" revisitation of the past might be getting out > of hand ? how far does it go before > we have to accept that > this might be another band making their pension > arrangements ? (20 pounds for a t-shirt.) I think I'll nip this one in the bud. According to Wire, new material will hopefully begin to appear as they get used to performing material together again. As Colin remarked at RFH, the "year zero" idea was fine for the '80s, but it isn't the '80s anymore. They felt comfortable and suitably interested in revisiting the old material and using it as the launching pad. Had they done another Oxford '85 (ie: all new) I don't think it would have worked so well. (Also, many of the '80s tracks at RFH sounded much better than the originals - justification in itself). And the T-Shirt is quite nice - stitched pinkflag.com logo and everything ... > Some of the audience behaviour on the night was > curious. Along with some attempts at pogoing > I noticed at the end that > despite the enthusiastic response overall, great > swathes of the audience > were simply starring blankly at the stage. Did they > think they were too cool to clap ? As with the 2K (KLF) gig I saw at the Barbican, a fair amount of the crowd at RFH were NOT Wire-fans, and were the typical "go to everything" arts crowd (maybe 10% or so). As for the rest: mesmerised/shocked probably. After all, this is one of the UK's premiere high-brow Arts venues, and Wire finished by playing a rather fast version of their most dissonant punk epic, 12XU. Personally, I thought it was hilarious. Craig/WV. ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://welcome.to/wireviews News, reviews and dugga. Snub.Comms: http://welcome.to/snub Veer Audio: http://listen.to/veer - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:31:05 -0500 From: "Matthew Hawes" Subject: Wir I just found a copy of The First Letter at a local record shop here in Kentucky used for $8. Also picked up A Bell for $6. What a deal!!!!!!!!! I have to say that Letter is awesome. Very moody at times, but definitely ear candy!!!!! MAtt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:34:42 -0600 From: "charles / wmo" Subject: RFH Set List Wire Set List RFH 02/26/00 01 Pink Flag 02 Silk Skin Paws 03 40 Versions 04 Boiling Boy 05 Art of Persistance 06 Lowdown 07 Madmans Honey 08 Advantage In Height 09 htbt 10 He Knows 11 Being Sucked In Again 12 Strange 13 A Serious of Snakes 14 Another Time 15 Mercy 16 2 People In A Room 17 12XU worth the trip, I'd say charles wmo@interserv.com http://wiremailorder.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:20:50 -0000 From: "ian barrett" Subject: Re: RFH Howard wrote... > I'm not finding the new CD much of a pant wetter though. 'Art of > persistance' is IMO the lesser of the two new tracks and reminds me of a > Joy Division song, can't think which one at the moment. It reminded me a little of the early Wire version of Lorries (from Turns & Strokes) "I'm mourning the passing...." "The art of persistance....." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:19:08 -0800 From: "Uri Baran" Subject: Re: rfh What's wrong with the other nights as well? Uri - -----Original Message----- From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com To: idealcopy@smoe.org Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:20 AM Subject: rfh >mmm , what a great night. whereas nottm was a classic "rock gig" ; rammed into a small club/lager spilt down your back/no frills kind of thing (and fabulous for it) , the rfh was a much more relaxed / detached experience. comfy chairs...... 3 and a half hours of unbroken performance (i felt sorry for the legions of home tapers and their bladders) that flew by. apart from wire , the highlight for me was he said (the second bassist was i think the leader of "big bottom" who backed michael clark on his recent shows. nice performance) but it was all a great appetiser for the main show. i thought wire were fabulous , i could go on for ages but will resist the temptation. a bouncer threatened to throw me out for illicit use of a flashgun , hope the pictures are worth it ! > >met uri and craig (hi there) but couldn't see anyone else , way it was set up you couldn't really circulate if you wanted to see the whole show (as i did). hope you all enjoyed it. > >highbury garage 26/27/28th may ; let's all go on the final night (sunday) and meet up properly. something more to look forward to , the gig year is panning out quite nicely.p > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:36:08 -0000 From: "Mark McQuitty" Subject: Just a few thoughts and ramblings about the gigs... Just a few thoughts and ramblings about the gigs... I got RFH a bit late to spot any people from the list which was a shame. Immersion had just started so I went straight in and took my seat. I must agree with Paul that I also enjoyed He Said the most. Graham was on good form and it was good to hear him singing as the Wire sets didn't include much of his vocals. The final piece where Graham ranted "YOUR LACK OF RESPECT APPALLS ME!" was just superb. For me the set was the most inspirational part of the evening. It emphasised for me just how relevant the work Wire are doing individually redardless of the emerging hype surrounding this reunion. Although I enjoyed Nottingham and London immensely, the thing I'll take away with me from this Wire reunion was the opportunity to see He Said live. Hope you post up the pictures Paul. I saw the bouncer come over to "have words" with you. (Didn't know it was you of course.) Wire were great of course. Although it was great to hear the old stuff which in itself is a novelty for Wire, part of me would have loved them to do a completely new set of things just to take everyone by suprise. I guess I got my nostalgia fix at Nottingham. Just what is it with al the abuse I was hearing being screamed at the band during any quiet moment? Why do people do that? I presume they've come to see a band they like but I was hearing some real abusive comments. Weird. Last thought. Slightly underwhelmed by the CD. 5 tracks for a tenner. Blessed State sounded great, one of my faves, pity they didn't play it live. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:43:52 -0600 (CST) From: flaherty michael w Subject: Chicago Tickets, Drill TV, etc. > When do the Chicago tix go on sale? March 4th, or so I've heard. > >A video of Drill from an American TV > >broadcast was next, then we got at least two encores after that. > Very funny. Wire were on what looked like a daytime American show (like > Richard and Judy)...the presenter said something about liking the song "but > not catching the words"...Gilbert proceeded to take the piss a ltille while > Lewis videoed proceedings sporting a *dreadful* haircut. Funny, as was the > dance piece. This sounds like their appearance on "The Joan Rivers Show." > well former airline was , sadly , never to be. but we did get heartbeat (w/michael) and an extra 2 people in a room........ Well, we take what we can get. Still, former airline would be about the coolest thing they could do, for me. Not that I expect ... etc. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:44:58 -0500 From: Mike Edwards Subject: Radio silence. Can anybody on the list tell me of some good radio stations that are broadcast on the Internet? Wire friendly stations are obviously a big plus. Thanks, Mike http://CFT.tripod.com/mikeundpat.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:32:18 -0500 From: "A. Izenstark" Subject: Re: Radio silence. Mike Edwards wrote: > Can anybody on the list tell me of some good radio stations that are > broadcast on the Internet? Wire friendly stations are obviously a big plus. I strongly recommend WZBC, particularly the Wednesday night DJ, who is apt to play some permutation of Wire. I recently got to help him and got in a couple of tracks: Dome's Rolling Upon My Day and something off CN1 (the track evades me at the moment). You can find their stream at www.live365.com -- just do a search for WZBC. Amanda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 08:58:10 +0000 From: Mark Short Subject: RFH impressions I thought the Wire set was a bit one paced - most of the numbers they played were fast and thrashy. It's a shame they didn't do some slower pieces (say, Mutual Friend) or explore some of their frothier moments (Kidney Bingos). But it was good to hear "Being Sucked In Again", the song which sold me on Wire in the first place. The lighting was pretty good, but the "WireCam" was a bit lame. At least it proved to me that the circular object behind Robert's kit was a mirror, not a gong; I was worried that Wire's flirtation with prog rock (Gryphon, Tim Souster) had come home to roost. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:10:33 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: rfh nothing at all , but we're never going to get it together enough to organise a meeting in triplicate so maybe we should target one night & do it properly and all be there for sure. what does everyone reckon? p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: rfh Author: MIME:uri.b@virgin.net at INTERNET Date: 28/02/2000 22:58 What's wrong with the other nights as well? Uri - -----Original Message----- From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com To: idealcopy@smoe.org Date: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:20 AM Subject: rfh >mmm , what a great night. whereas nottm was a classic "rock gig" ; rammed into a small club/lager spilt down your back/no frills kind of thing (and fabulous for it) , the rfh was a much more relaxed / detached experience. comfy chairs...... 3 and a half hours of unbroken performance (i felt sorry for the legions of home tapers and their bladders) that flew by. apart from wire , the highlight for me was he said (the second bassist was i think the leader of "big bottom" who backed michael clark on his recent shows. nice performance) but it was all a great appetiser for the main show. i thought wire were fabulous , i could go on for ages but will resist the temptation. a bouncer threatened to throw me out for illicit use of a flashgun , hope the pictures are worth it ! > >met uri and craig (hi there) but couldn't see anyone else , way it was set up you couldn't really circulate if you wanted to see the whole show (as i did). hope you all enjoyed it. > >highbury garage 26/27/28th may ; let's all go on the final night (sunday) and meet up properly. something more to look forward to , the gig year is panning out quite nicely.p > ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #48 ******************************