From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #25 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, February 6 2000 Volume 03 : Number 025 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More tour dates ["Mark McQuitty" ] Re: Re[2]: hello, and wire tour?! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Wire U.S. tour information ["D.T. Viecelli" ] Re: Look what I found on Ticketmaster.... [professor ned ] Re: UK pre-gig drinks RFH 26FEB [Miles Goosens ] Re: A.C.Marias [Lee Ray ] cover versions ["Michel Faber" ] Fw: Look what I found on Ticketmaster.... ["Steve Loubert" Subject: More tour dates More dates.. and pre the RFH show! I'm so up for Nottingham as I only live in Birmingham. Don't know anything about the venue, size, etc. Anyone know Nottingham? I guess these are what's known as 'warm-up' dates. Hopefully in a small club setting. Can't wait! Cheers, Mark >>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:47:00 +0100 >>From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com >>Subject: Re[2]: hello, and wire tour?! >>hey , nottingham too! anyone interested..................p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 10:33:04 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: hello, and wire tour?! Paul, >>hey , nottingham too! anyone interested..................p<< Definitely....are tickets on sale? Don't know the venue - the only Nottingham venue I know is Rock City.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 11:36:53 -0600 From: "D.T. Viecelli" Subject: Wire U.S. tour information Hello All, I am Wire's new U.S. agent and I'd thought I'd let everyone know that there will shortly be Wire pages going up on our website at www.billions.com. This will be the best place to find news related to the tour, including on-sale dates and support acts as they become available. At this point, I can give you a piece of information that will not be public knowledge for another five days. Tickets for the Irving Plaza show in New York on May 15 will quietly go on sale on February 9 through the Irving Plaza box office and all Ticketmaster outlets. There will be a brief mention of the show at the bottom of the Irving Plaza ad and on their website (www.irvingplaza.com) at that time but no more. Actual ads will begin appearing (if tickets remain) in late March or early April. Please keep in mind that this list is the only place that I am announcing this information. It will not even appear on our site until February 9. In addition, there is a newly-created discussion forum on our site (accessible from the main page) that you may also find useful as a source of information. All three of our agents regularly read it and respond to questions. Thanks. ***************************************************** David T. Viecelli / Boche Billions President THE BILLIONS CORPORATION 833 W. Chicago Ave., ste. 101 Chicago, IL 60622-5497 tel: 312-997-9999 fax: 312-997-2287 web: http://www.billions.com and introducing: BILLIONS AUSTRALIA Adelaide Brisbane Chicago Melbourne Perth Sydney Ask me about it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:51:58 -0600 From: professor ned Subject: Re: Look what I found on Ticketmaster.... >Okay, this is just too funny... > >http://www.ticketmaster.com/SearchResults.asp?srch=wire&cmd=0 > >Heavy Metal, indeed! Heh. Interesting, that's the only US date TicketMaster lists for...anyone else gotten tix to a US date that isn't Boston? (Like, erm, Chicago perhaps?) ned ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:53:22 -0500 From: "Scott P. Fulmer" Subject: Re: Wire bit in NME... Just a little bit curious about the circumstances resulting in this statement: > Explaining the decision to reform after ten years, Wire guitarist Bruce > Gilbert told nme.com: "We were offered a night by the South Bank people and > after a discussion everybody was sufficiently fascinated to look into it." That is, who are the South Bank people, and why don't they talk to Wire more often, if this is the result? What was the "discussion" that "everybody was sufficiently fascinated" about? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 13:52:21 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: UK pre-gig drinks RFH 26FEB At 11:14 AM 02/03/2000 +0000, Steve Finch wrote: >Anyway I'll be there....but not until 6.30..i've got Wimbledon v Man Utd >to see in the afternoon....a great day out overall... > >Steve Finch plus 1!! When I first read that last line, I thought it must be some idiosyncratic football (soccer) lingo! later, listowner Miles, who will be sending a message to RFH attendees sometime this weekend ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:04:21 -0800 From: Lee Ray Subject: Re: A.C.Marias Hello all, > Or did he just axe those tracks because he > felt they weren't right for the 'flow' of > the CD? (Hard to believe, as they're superb.) I have found that this sequence makes for a very satisfying listen: Drop So U, MU, U Just Talk (no talk instrumental) Net in the Feather There Are Eline Cout II Some Thing (12" version) In particular, I like the way the "gating" effect in "U" and "Net", the way a periodic rhythm is superimposed on other material (like the bagpipes in "Net"), returns in Eline Cout II. Do you suppose Eline Cout I was another take of that same piece or...? On another note, I find "Time Was" inexplicable, mostly as a choice of song. I suppose the recording fits with the other A. C. Marias work on that album. Best, Lee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 22:14:03 -0000 From: "Michel Faber" Subject: cover versions Date sent: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:04:21 -0800 From: Lee Ray To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: A.C.Marias Hello all, > Or did he just axe those tracks because he > felt they weren't right for the 'flow' of > the CD? (Hard to believe, as they're superb.) I have found that this sequence makes for a very satisfying listen: Drop So U, MU, U Just Talk (no talk instrumental) Net in the Feather There Are Eline Cout II Some Thing (12" version) In particular, I like the way the "gating" effect in "U" and "Net", the way a periodic rhythm is superimposed on other material (like the bagpipes in "Net"), returns in Eline Cout II. Do you suppose Eline Cout I was another take of that same piece or...? On another note, I find "Time Was" inexplicable, mostly as a choice of song. I suppose the recording fits with the other A. C. Marias work on that album. Best, Lee From: michelfaber@ablach.freeserve.co.uk To: Lee Ray Subject: Re: A.C.Marias Date sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:42:29 -0000 Dear Lee, Thanks for your comments. I'm very busy right now in the lead-up to the launch of a novel, but once things settle down a bit I'll definitely make myself a compilation tape with the Gilbert/Marias items you mention, in the order you suggest - although my copy of 'Drop/So' is pretty wrecked, which will bring additional avant-garde cracklings to the sonic flow. On the subject of 'Time Was' - yes, most peculiar. But then, 'Vicious' (B-side of the 'One Of Our Girls Has Gone Missing' 12") was pretty peculiar, too. In fact, I often find that even the most intuitively tasteful and masterly musicians go a bit askew when they do cover versions. Maybe they're caught between their love of the original and the desire not to make a carbon copy. The result is something too close to the original to be wholly intriguing but not close enough to capture the original's qualities. This issue is much on my mind just now because a friend has just sent me a tape of some Robyn Hitchcock material, on which an absolutely hideous and embarrassing version of Roxy Music's 'More Than This' appears. I was also listening yesterday to Danielle Dax's dispiritingly bland version of 'Tomorrow Never Knows', a song which was covered in an even blander version by Eno & Manzanera's 801 project. Some of the better cover versions have been done by artists who (as far as I can determine) were indifferent to the originals. The Flying Lizards do a wonderful, implicitly sadomasochistic take on 'Sex Machine' and also a very good version of 'Suzanne' - rather better than He Said's, in my opinion. Clint Ruin and Lydia Lunch do superb version of 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road' and of course the Residents have forged a career on ironic tributes. Best wishes, and thanks again for your e-mail. Michel Faber ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 17:06:37 -0600 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Fw: Look what I found on Ticketmaster.... I emailed the Metro in Chicago and received a reply that they will probably go on sale next Saturday, the 12th. They are at www.metrochicago.com. May 10 airfare to Chicago would have been $58 yesterday; today it's $138. :-( They must have found out about the show. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: professor ned To: Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Look what I found on Ticketmaster.... > >Okay, this is just too funny... > > > >http://www.ticketmaster.com/SearchResults.asp?srch=wire&cmd=0 > > > >Heavy Metal, indeed! > > > Heh. Interesting, that's the only US date TicketMaster lists for...anyone > else gotten tix to a US date that isn't Boston? (Like, erm, Chicago > perhaps?) > > ned > > ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #25 ******************************