From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #6 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, January 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Spizz [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re[2]: Wire/Goth connection [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] American new wave. [Q-Bert ] Re: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final [John Roberts ] Re: American new wave. [Vinylecho@aol.com] Re: American new wave. [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:09:55 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: Spizz he did a dire act one year with a couple of women in bikinis called "spizz sexual". i think the world lived without that one.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Spizz Author: MIME:P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk at INTERNET Date: 12/01/2000 08:57 There are more incarnations / name changes for Spizz, than the ones previously reported. It is true that the name changes were usually an annual occurrence, but not always. 1978 SPIZZOIL 1979 SPIZZENERGI 1980 ATHLETICAO SPIZZ 80 1981 THE SPIZZLES 1981 SPIZZ HISTORY (used for a retrospective album only) 1982 SPIZZENERGI:2 1987 SPIZZ 1988 SPIZZ ORBIT 1994 SPIZZMAS (used for a Christmas single only) There were possibly other names used, but these are names used at the times of releases. Paul KW ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 9:56:32 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: Wire/Goth connection must have been during his goth phase.... actually (he says pedantically) i think the excellent pagan lovesong was pre colin's involvement. shame it wasn't put on the album ; was it on the cd? p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Wire/Goth connection Author: MIME:mschmid@interport.net at INTERNET Date: 11/01/2000 16:21 At 04:30 AM 1/11/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I think KJ attracted a considerably more gothier audience than Wire ever >did. I thought it was quite interesting when someone on this list said >that certain Wire tracks had appeared on Goth comps because I must admit I >never viewed Wire like this even though I was a huge Killing Joke fan when >I was younger. I think the reference was to the Colin Newman-produced Virgin Prunes tracks that were on the Cleopatra Goth compilations. Gothic Rock Volume One has "Pagan Love Song" and V2 has "Baby Turns Blue". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 9:57:50 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final i saw devo about 1990 , all paunches and bald patches but still entertaining. you're right that talking heads havn't really dated at all , "fear of music" is so good and "sense" is one of the very few live albums worth repeated listens. the new blondie stuff is laughably lame.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final Author: MIME:xj23@yahoo.com at INTERNET Date: 11/01/2000 18:35 DEVO were always a little too strange to be accepted by the mainstream at least in the US. Sure, they had a hit, but it seems as though most bands did. I saw DEVO in 1988, long after their commercial peak and they just didn't have the same spark of non-conformity. Their first album still stands out. The Cars always wanted to be popular and eventually they were, but the music suffered in the process. I appreciate Talking Heads now more than then especially after the Brilliant reissue of 'Stop Making Sense'. Blondie-some bands should stay un-reunited. They were great twenty years ago. I got the AFOS 12" from the remix album. It's not that good and the vocals sound re-recorded. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 05:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Q-Bert Subject: American new wave. <> Listen to some sound clips of Wall of Voodoo at cd-now! Wall of Voodoo is American. The very early Devo stuff is good, but they ran out of ideas quickly and kept on in spite of it, a shameful move (but they're certainly not the first to do that). - ---- Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the record (Billy and the Boingers) that came with a Bloom County Book (i think the name of that particular book was "Bootleg.") Finally, there was a sony commercial a while back for the mini disc that had a hitch hiker get in someone's car who was playing a new wave song and the only lyrics were audible "Don't do the danger dance, you'll put your eye out." Does anyone know the name of the song and who wrote it? Thanks, Robert. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:22:26 +0000 (GMT) From: John Roberts Subject: Re: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final T Heads' Remain in Light and More Songs About Buildings And Food are excellent too if there's anyone out there who doesn't own these fine albums. On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 paul.rabjohn@ssab.com wrote: > i saw devo about 1990 , all paunches and bald patches but still entertaining. you're right that talking heads havn't really dated at all , "fear of music" is so good and "sense" is one of the very few live albums worth repeated listens. the new blondie stuff is laughably lame.p > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Are We Not Men?/AFOS-the final > Author: MIME:xj23@yahoo.com at INTERNET > Date: 11/01/2000 18:35 > > > DEVO were always a little too strange to be accepted by the mainstream at least in the US. Sure, they had a hit, but it seems as though most bands did. > I saw DEVO in 1988, long after their commercial peak and they just didn't have the same spark of non-conformity. Their first album still stands out. The Cars always wanted to be popular and eventually they were, but the music suffered in the process. > I appreciate Talking Heads now more than then especially after the Brilliant reissue of 'Stop Making Sense'. > Blondie-some bands should stay un-reunited. They were great twenty years ago. > > I got the AFOS 12" from the remix album. It's not that good and the vocals sound re-recorded. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:16:06 EST From: Vinylecho@aol.com Subject: Re: American new wave. My thoughts about this realizing I started are that I am thinking of the far more influential UK new wave/post punk bands like: Wire, Gang of Four, the Swell Maps (where would Sonic Youth be with without this band), and the Fall. Of course there are a million smaller bands no one knows like Josef K, the Mekons, Throbbing Gristle, the Subway Sect, early XTC, Magazine, Joy Division, and then the second punk wave like Crass, X Ray Spex, and the raincoats. You can hear these bands in so many American bands like Fugazi, Bikini Kill, Pavement, Nine Inch Nails, and many others. Just a thought ... JAY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: American new wave. On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 Vinylecho@aol.com wrote: > You can hear these bands in so many American bands like Fugazi, Bikini > Kill, Pavement, Nine Inch Nails, and many others. You can hear a LOT of things in those bands, including a lot of American music that you omitted to mention... Husker Du, The Embarrassment, Big Black, The Human Switchboard, Talking Heads, Rites Of Spring... but this is getting to be too much of a national cheering match, and we should stop. a ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #6 *****************************