From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V3 #1 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, January 8 2000 Volume 03 : Number 001 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback [jerry.butson@emim] Re: top 10 [Brian ] Re[2]: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback [paul.rabjohn@s] Re: Shriekback [Aaron Mandel ] Re[2]: top 10 [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback [Obie ] Re: Anyone? ["MackDaddyD" ] Re: Anyone? [Obie ] Re: Magazine et al. [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: Re[2]: RFH [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: deutscher tv [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: deutscher tv / Rockpalast [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: spizzenergi [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Re[2]: leckie [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Re[2]: leckie [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: Anyone? [MarkBursa@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:55:11 +0000 From: jerry.butson@emimusic.com (jerry butson) Subject: Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback - --IMA.Boundary.2191275190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Taking this back to Wire does anyone notice a link between them all? To me Wire, Killing Joke, mid-period Simple Minds, Shriekback, all share in certain moments a certain intensity, a relentlessness, like they've all been possessed. Anyone agree or shall I get me coat? j ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Author: "Ciscon; Ray" at X-MAIL Date: 06/01/00 16:29 I never saw Simple Minds live, but they always struck me as a very 'studio' band. I too saw the Carl Marsh-less Shriekback live on their 'Oil and Gold' tour in the mid 80's and they were indeed a sight to behold! They were one of the few 80's synth-dominated bands who could pull it off on stage. They, much like Wire, would present live versions of their songs that were in some cases radically different, but equally good, than the studio versions. Compare the live and studio versions of 'Hammerheads' from 'The Dancing Years', and 'Oil & Gold' ... Does anyone have any information on what any of the Shriekback alumni are doing these days? I know that bassist extraordinaire Dave Allen is involved with World Domination records (Dr. Evil's favorite record label BTW)... but what ever happened to Carl Marsh, ex-XTC keyboardist Barry Andrews, or Martyn Barker beyond the King Swamp and HappyHead projects? Cheers, Ray Ciscon In order to provide the best level of support, please contact: The I.S. Support Center at extension 4357 ** Every support call should begin with a call to the I. S. Support Center. ** -----Original Message----- From: Joe Turner [mailto:cutter@abunai.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:19 PM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: leckie On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Stephen Jackson wrote: > Yes, Youth played on "The Big Sky" off the Hounds of Love and was dating Ms > Bush at some point in the 80s. Entirely off-topic, but... hunh?! She's been with her bassist Del Palmer continuously since the early 80s, as far as I knew. (An odd combo, if true, though, and would show a prediliction for bass players.) > Leckie produced "White Music" and "Go2" as well as the two Dukes of > Stratosphear albums (XTC's alter-ego). ...as well as their first release, the "3D EP". He also did some Woodentops tracks under the goof name of "Swami Anand Nagara", and of course the Stone Roses' first LP. Rrrrrrreaching back into the 80's, there... > He also produced the first 3 Simple > Minds albums of which one (Empires and Dance) in my opinion is a European > Dance classic. Please don't flame me. Simple Minds, while not exactly this-list-y, were pretty cool up to and including (kiss my 80's-adolescent rear if you don't agree) "Don't You Forget About Me". Never knew he was responsible for the earlier stuff, though. Although in an ironic twist of list mentions, I saw Shriekback open up for Simple Minds in Boston many years ago and they blew SM off the stage. /j "We see the fish below the ice sometimes." - --IMA.Boundary.2191275190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net ([24.128.1.70]) by vmailntwks10.trinite.co.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 0033079A; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:45:41 +0000 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10849; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA03882; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA03861 for idealcopy-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.comark.com (mail1.comark.com [208.239.128.5]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id RAA03857 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from egateway.COMARK.COM ([208.239.129.12]) by mail1.comark.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-60906U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:36:19 -0600 Received: from 206.214.4.17 by egateway.COMARK.COM with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.2 SR1); Thu, 06 Jan 00 16:19:44 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: 5b1d1795-8c56-11d1-9017-00805fefa49e Received: by HERCULES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:31:53 -0600 Message-ID: <3D5F67C08DB7D211A02600805FE6EFC1023BF687@ORION> From: "Ciscon, Ray" To: Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:29:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 146BCA8A605822-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.2191275190-- . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 07:33:18 -0800 From: Brian Subject: Re: top 10 Which list was this ? paul.rabjohn@ssab.com wrote: > the one i missed off that list was "rattus norvegicus" , what a boring choice. my own list would go for the subway sect/slits/atv/x ray spex end of things rather than damned/stranglers/saints/pere ubu but there , indeed , you go. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:47:07 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback i think with wire/shriekback and (with reservations) simple minds it was done in quite a removed , arty way , sort of standing back and making observations. whereas the early kj were a different experience completely , totally raw and intense (and a bit mad). i still think the intensity on the first kj album has rarely been matched and they make clowns like marilyn manson and nin look quite laughable. but sadly kj never progressed after youth left , whereas wire has been such an interesting journey because (like so few acts) they've kept it moving along and done so many different things. sorry to go for such an easy target , but jim kerr's stadium rock era was quite unforgiveable.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Author: MIME:jerry.butson@emimusic.com at INTERNET Date: 07/01/2000 16:10 Taking this back to Wire does anyone notice a link between them all? To me Wire, Killing Joke, mid-period Simple Minds, Shriekback, all share in certain moments a certain intensity, a relentlessness, like they've all been possessed. Anyone agree or shall I get me coat? j ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Author: "Ciscon; Ray" at X-MAIL Date: 06/01/00 16:29 I never saw Simple Minds live, but they always struck me as a very 'studio' band. I too saw the Carl Marsh-less Shriekback live on their 'Oil and Gold' tour in the mid 80's and they were indeed a sight to behold! They were one of the few 80's synth-dominated bands who could pull it off on stage. They, much like Wire, would present live versions of their songs that were in some cases radically different, but equally good, than the studio versions. Compare the live and studio versions of 'Hammerheads' from 'The Dancing Years', and 'Oil & Gold' ... Does anyone have any information on what any of the Shriekback alumni are doing these days? I know that bassist extraordinaire Dave Allen is involved with World Domination records (Dr. Evil's favorite record label BTW)... but what ever happened to Carl Marsh, ex-XTC keyboardist Barry Andrews, or Martyn Barker beyond the King Swamp and HappyHead projects? Cheers, Ray Ciscon In order to provide the best level of support, please contact: The I.S. Support Center at extension 4357 ** Every support call should begin with a call to the I. S. Support Center. ** - -----Original Message----- From: Joe Turner [mailto:cutter@abunai.com] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:19 PM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: leckie On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Stephen Jackson wrote: > Yes, Youth played on "The Big Sky" off the Hounds of Love and was dating Ms > Bush at some point in the 80s. Entirely off-topic, but... hunh?! She's been with her bassist Del Palmer continuously since the early 80s, as far as I knew. (An odd combo, if true, though, and would show a prediliction for bass players.) > Leckie produced "White Music" and "Go2" as well as the two Dukes of > Stratosphear albums (XTC's alter-ego). ...as well as their first release, the "3D EP". He also did some Woodentops tracks under the goof name of "Swami Anand Nagara", and of course the Stone Roses' first LP. Rrrrrrreaching back into the 80's, there... > He also produced the first 3 Simple > Minds albums of which one (Empires and Dance) in my opinion is a European > Dance classic. Please don't flame me. Simple Minds, while not exactly this-list-y, were pretty cool up to and including (kiss my 80's-adolescent rear if you don't agree) "Don't You Forget About Me". Never knew he was responsible for the earlier stuff, though. Although in an ironic twist of list mentions, I saw Shriekback open up for Simple Minds in Boston many years ago and they blew SM off the stage. /j "We see the fish below the ice sometimes." Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net ([24.128.1.70]) by vmailntwks10.trinite.co.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 0033079A; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:45:41 +0000 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10849; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA03882; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA03861 for idealcopy-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.comark.com (mail1.comark.com [208.239.128.5]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id RAA03857 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from egateway.COMARK.COM ([208.239.129.12]) by mail1.comark.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-60906U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:36:19 -0600 Received: from 206.214.4.17 by egateway.COMARK.COM with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.2 SR1); Thu, 06 Jan 00 16:19:44 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: 5b1d1795-8c56-11d1-9017-00805fefa49e Received: by HERCULES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:31:53 -0600 Message-ID: <3D5F67C08DB7D211A02600805FE6EFC1023BF687@ORION> From: "Ciscon, Ray" To: Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:29:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 146BCA8A605822-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:50:33 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Shriekback On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, BillyD wrote: > Shriekback Naked Apes And Pond Life > Released: 24/01/00 > > Anybody have any more information? no, except that this is the album that's been on its way for about five years, and it's coming out in the UK and Australia but not, last i heard, in the US. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:51:41 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: top 10 record collectors "top 10 punk albums of the milennium" (but mainly 76/77) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: top 10 Author: MIME:bbarnett@grin.net at INTERNET Date: 07/01/2000 16:34 Which list was this ? paul.rabjohn@ssab.com wrote: > the one i missed off that list was "rattus norvegicus" , what a boring choice. my own list would go for the subway sect/slits/atv/x ray spex end of things rather than damned/stranglers/saints/pere ubu but there , indeed , you go. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 08:28:18 -0800 From: Obie Subject: Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Wow , I'm glade someone acknowledges some of the earlier Simple Minds work specifically "New gold dream" and "Sparkle in the rain" I would agree that those where fairly intense. Unfortunately I was never a big Shriekback fan, although news of a new album intrigues me a bit. jerry butson wrote: > > Taking this back to Wire does anyone notice a link between them all? > > To me Wire, Killing Joke, mid-period Simple Minds, Shriekback, all share in > > certain moments a certain intensity, a relentlessness, like they've all > been possessed. > > Anyone agree or shall I get me coat? > > j > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback > Author: "Ciscon; Ray" at X-MAIL > Date: 06/01/00 16:29 > > I never saw Simple Minds live, but they always struck me as a very 'studio' > band. > > I too saw the Carl Marsh-less Shriekback live on their 'Oil and Gold' tour > in the mid 80's and they were indeed a sight to behold! > > They were one of the few 80's synth-dominated bands who could pull it off on > stage. They, much like Wire, would present live versions of their songs that > were in some cases radically different, but equally good, than the studio > versions. > > Compare the live and studio versions of 'Hammerheads' from 'The Dancing > Years', and 'Oil & Gold' ... > > Does anyone have any information on what any of the Shriekback alumni are > doing these days? I know that bassist extraordinaire Dave Allen is involved > with World Domination records (Dr. Evil's favorite record label BTW)... but > what ever happened to Carl Marsh, ex-XTC keyboardist Barry Andrews, or > Martyn Barker beyond the King Swamp and HappyHead projects? > > Cheers, > > Ray Ciscon > > In order to provide the best level of support, please contact: > The I.S. Support Center at extension 4357 > ** Every support call should begin with a call to the I. S. Support Center. > ** > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Turner [mailto:cutter@abunai.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:19 PM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: leckie > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Stephen Jackson wrote: > > > Yes, Youth played on "The Big Sky" off the Hounds of Love > and was dating Ms > > Bush at some point in the 80s. > > Entirely off-topic, but... hunh?! She's been with her > bassist Del Palmer > continuously since the early 80s, as far as I knew. (An odd > combo, if > true, though, and would show a prediliction for bass > players.) > > > Leckie produced "White Music" and "Go2" as well as the two > Dukes of > > Stratosphear albums (XTC's alter-ego). > > ...as well as their first release, the "3D EP". He also did > some > Woodentops tracks under the goof name of "Swami Anand > Nagara", and of > course the Stone Roses' first LP. Rrrrrrreaching back into > the 80's, > there... > > > He also produced the first 3 Simple > > Minds albums of which one (Empires and Dance) in my > opinion is a European > > Dance classic. Please don't flame me. > > Simple Minds, while not exactly this-list-y, were pretty > cool up to and > including (kiss my 80's-adolescent rear if you don't agree) > "Don't You > Forget About Me". Never knew he was responsible for the > earlier stuff, > though. > > Although in an ironic twist of list mentions, I saw > Shriekback open up for > Simple Minds in Boston many years ago and they blew SM off > the stage. > > /j > > "We see the fish below the ice sometimes." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net ([24.128.1.70]) by > vmailntwks10.trinite.co.uk with SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 0033079A; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:45:41 +0000 > Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) > by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA10849; > Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:36:01 -0500 (EST) > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA03882; > Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:46 -0500 (EST) > Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:41 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA03861 > for idealcopy-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:14 -0500 (EST) > Received: from mail1.comark.com (mail1.comark.com [208.239.128.5]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id RAA03857 > for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:34:10 -0500 (EST) > Received: from egateway.COMARK.COM ([208.239.129.12]) by mail1.comark.com > (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-60906U100L2S100V35) > with SMTP id com for ; > Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:36:19 -0600 > Received: from 206.214.4.17 by egateway.COMARK.COM with ESMTP ( > WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.2 SR1); Thu, 06 Jan 00 16:19:44 > -0600 > X-Server-Uuid: 5b1d1795-8c56-11d1-9017-00805fefa49e > Received: by HERCULES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id > ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:31:53 -0600 > Message-ID: <3D5F67C08DB7D211A02600805FE6EFC1023BF687@ORION> > From: "Ciscon, Ray" > To: > Subject: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:29:14 -0600 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > X-WSS-ID: 146BCA8A605822-01-01 > Content-Type: text/plain; > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > Precedence: bulk - -- **************************** Obie Sanders/ System Administrator ADN - --------------------------- osanders@adnc.com/ext.273 **************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:45:41 -0800 From: Obie Subject: Anyone? I recall this strange LP I had at one point ,It was a live compilation that featured the Fall , the Buzzcocks ,Steelpulse , and some others, circa about 1980 or so , I think it was called "the electric circus" I gave it away to a girlfriend I had a long while ago , but I wondering about it now. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any info would be great. - -- **************************** Obie Sanders/ System Administrator ADN - --------------------------- osanders@adnc.com/ext.273 **************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:20:23 -0600 From: "MackDaddyD" Subject: Re: Anyone? This has been reissued as a CD and might still be available to the best of my knowledge. Not too dear either. Didn't see it at CDNOW, tho. I'll check the corner record store to see if they still have it next week. > I recall this strange LP I had at one point ,It was a live compilation > that featured the Fall , the Buzzcocks ,Steelpulse , and some others, > circa about 1980 or so , I think it was called "the electric circus" > I gave it away to a girlfriend I had a long while ago , but I wondering > about it now. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any info would be > great. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:32:20 -0800 From: Obie Subject: Re: Anyone? If so , i would gladly send the money for you to pick it up! :-) MackDaddyD wrote: > > This has been reissued as a CD and might still be available to the best of > my knowledge. > Not too dear either. Didn't see it at CDNOW, tho. > I'll check the corner record store to see if they still have it next week. > > > I recall this strange LP I had at one point ,It was a live compilation > > that featured the Fall , the Buzzcocks ,Steelpulse , and some others, > > circa about 1980 or so , I think it was called "the electric circus" > > I gave it away to a girlfriend I had a long while ago , but I wondering > > about it now. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any info would be > > great. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com - -- **************************** Obie Sanders/ System Administrator ADN - --------------------------- osanders@adnc.com/ext.273 **************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:52:36 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Magazine et al. Nice choice of "Fave album of all time"! It wouldn't be mine (but GO+ is excellent as I've mentioned before.) I hold the LP in my hand as I type.How can you fault tracks like "Battery Brides" & "The Rhythm". Happy New Year1 CHRISWIRE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:48:20 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: RFH Paul, << horses the ramones bollocks pink flag the clash another music a pere ubu one i'm stranded damned damned damned (i think) >> Has to be an American list!! No Brit list wouldn't have the PIstols and the Clash at 1 and 2! Good to see the Saaints in there - and the Ubu one would have been The Modern Dance, which is an outstanding record, thought hardly "punk". Cheers, Mark Bursa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:50:32 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: deutscher tv Paul, German music is not what it was. There was a time in the early 80s when there were some very good bands. In particular I recommend Palais Schaumburg. If ever there was a German Wire... Mark Bursa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:52:15 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: deutscher tv / Rockpalast Craig, << If you have Sky (maybe not the digital version) you should be able to pick up WDR - on my set-up, it's #42. >> What time is Rockpalast on? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:55:39 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: spizzenergi In a message dated 1/6/2000 15:17:20, you write: << Nah... No Room is THE classic Spizz track >> Soldier Soldier, if you MUST have a Spizz track! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:11:12 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: leckie >>i bet jim couldn't get patsy's thongs on......... (topical uk joke there)<< Hehehe! ( ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:12:48 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: leckie In a message dated 1/7/2000 09:07:22, you write: << (topical uk joke there)>> Heheheh! No need for a cucumber, in Spinal Tap terms. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:17:19 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: More Off Topic Rants - Simple Minds and Shriekback Jerry << aking this back to Wire does anyone notice a link between them all? To me Wire, Killing Joke, mid-period Simple Minds, Shriekback, all share in certain moments a certain intensity, a relentlessness, like they've all been possessed. Anyone agree or shall I get me coat? >> Err..no! Wire are so far above the rest of those in terms of intelligence, artfulness and sheer good tunes... Killing Joke had their moments early on, SM had about one and a half decent albums and Shriekback were just plain dull. Get yer coat!!! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:22:22 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Anyone? Obie, It's called "Live at the Electric Circus and is a 10 inch live album recoded on the last night of the Electric Circus in Manchester. It's sought after mainly because it has the track "At a later date" by Warsaw (Joy Division) - the one where Ian Curtis shouts "Y'all forgot Rudolf Hess!!!" at the start.... Worth having for the Fall tracks though! Never seen it on CD...I have it on vinyl Mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V3 #1 *****************************