From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #237 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, December 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- justification ["andy and sheri wiseman" ] Re: justification ["tube disaster" ] Re: Justification ["charles / wmo" ] Re: All sorts ["Wilson, Paul" ] Re[2]: All sorts [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] RE: Re[2]: All sorts ["Wilson, Paul" ] Re: Justification. [Mark Short ] "Chairs Missing" [Ian Grant ] Re: Instant Shed vol. 1 ["Steven Blum" ] Rejustification. ["Casper Milquetoast" ] re: Re: Justification. ["Jack Steinmann" ] Rejouin the Rejustification. ["MackDaddyD" ] Justify my lov...er...Wire [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: Justify my lov...er...Wire ["tube disaster" ] Re: Re[2]: All sorts ["tube disaster" ] Re: Re[2]: All sorts ["tube disaster" ] Re: Justify my lov...er...Wire ["tube disaster" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:50:54 -0000 From: "andy and sheri wiseman" Subject: justification at 19 your right,pink flag and chairs missing are all you need.the band were young and i would imagine most of the subscribers on this list got in to wire through the first two albums.give 154 a go it will reward you even more than the others eventually.however at 19 years old i would never take the advise of any sad 30 something's,good luck! television,the fall,sonic youth! do some of us have the same record collection? the fall are still the second best band in the world.marquis moon still sounds superb and although sonic youth are not as important as they think they are can i recommend evol and daydream nation to any you all. a.w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 01:57:30 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: justification >at 19 your right,pink flag and chairs missing are all you need.the band were >young >and i would imagine most of the subscribers on this list got in to wire >through the >first two albums.give 154 a go it will reward you even more than the others >eventually.however at 19 years old i would never take the advise of any sad >30 something's,good luck! As opposed to us right-thinking 40-somethings, whose word should of course be gratefully received as law, as we have only your best interests at heart. >television,the fall,sonic youth! do some of us have the same record >collection? Depends ... how're you fixed for Prag VEC & Family Fodder? >the fall are still the second best band in the world. Well, one of the 3, surely ... marquis moon still >sounds superb I prefer Adventure, myself, but I know that's a minority view. >and although sonic youth are not as important as they think they are can i >recommend evol and daydream nation to any you all. I'd say Sister, but yep, you'd be hard-pressed to go wrong with any of the 3. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:37:00 -0500 From: "charles / wmo" Subject: Re: Justification Truth be told, I certainly don't think that the period between D&E and the Ideal Copy was any great leap for Wire and I don't think the peroid after WIR was any great leap either. Wire make their best records together. The First Letter is as valid as anything solo they've done in the 90's - I'm not knocking Graham's Origin work, Immersion or Bruce's Ab Ovo (certainly this is underrated by this list), but they don't offer anything to the course of Modern Music as they did as WIRE. 1. PF>CM>154 2. Ideal Copy, Bell, IBTABA 3. Drill, The First Letter 4. ??? It's lot of pressure for those four men; Let's turn it up a notch and expect nothing but the best! (hahaha) charles wmo@interserv.com http://wiremailorder.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:38:46 -0000 From: "Wilson, Paul" Subject: Re: All sorts Simultaneous CD, Cassette, Vinyl and DAT releases. I wouldn't be surprised if the honour of being the first didn't go to New Order or another of the Factory bands. I remember seeing DAT versions of Factory stuff in the record shops long before DAT versions of any other bands. I think they also were one of the first labels to put out DCC. I'll go along with "Chairs Missing" as being the best Wire album. It's the one I always go back to. It was the first one I bought as well - when it came out. I then went and bought "Pink Flag", and hated it! My opinion of that album has changed over the years, but "Chairs Missing" remains my favourite, closely followed by "154". Of the more recent stuff, "Coatings" ranks pretty high. After those, the next greatest Wire album has to be A-Z. It sits better as a Wire album than a Newman solo album. It really is the follow up to "Chairs Missing"! The Fall, The Fall? What can you say about them? Possibly the best band to come out of the English punk scene. And boy, did they grow. Right up until "Shiftwork" - then, unfortunately they lost their way a bit. But, never mind, what a legacy they have left. So many diverse albums, but all gems in there own right. Can't think of any band who have offered so much (apart, possibly, from The Residents!). Last night I was doing a compilation tape of my favourite songs for someone who hasn't been exposed to a great deal of "good" music. I only allowed myself to put one song from each band, and found myself really struggling for a wire song. In the end, I opted for "On Returning". What one song would anyone else have chosen, basically to sum up the band? Paul KW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:16:26 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: All sorts ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: All sorts Author: MIME:P.Wilson@bury.gov.uk at INTERNET Date: 30/11/1999 12:56 if i have to pick one track to play to a non-wire fan , i normally go for "blessed state". its just a real fave of mine , i'm not claiming it's particularly "representative". map ref might be another good idea , but there's so much to go for. as a big fall/wire fan paul , what did you think of the elastica/mes collaborations then? p The Fall, The Fall? What can you say about them? Possibly the best band to come out of the English punk scene. And boy, did they grow. Right up until "Shiftwork" - then, unfortunately they lost their way a bit. But, never mind, what a legacy they have left. So many diverse albums, but all gems in there own right. Can't think of any band who have offered so much (apart, possibly, from The Residents!). Last night I was doing a compilation tape of my favourite songs for someone who hasn't been exposed to a great deal of "good" music. I only allowed myself to put one song from each band, and found myself really struggling for a wire song. In the end, I opted for "On Returning". What one song would anyone else have chosen, basically to sum up the band? Paul KW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:51:17 -0000 From: "Wilson, Paul" Subject: RE: Re[2]: All sorts as a big fall/wire fan paul , what did you think of the elastica/mes collaborations then? p Ha, good question! Bought it, played it, put it away - is probably the best answer (and this from someone who actually quite liked the Elastica album) Paul KW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:12:43 +0000 From: Mark Short Subject: Re: Justification. Wireviews wrote: > > We almost certainly > wouldn't be on a list discussing them now as they'd > have had far less longevity! This is why RFH > slightly worries me - I really hope it'll mainly be > new stuff or suitably mangled "classics". I don't recall any Harvest period "classics" being played live during the Mute reunion phase of Wire. So I don't anticipate many covers of numbers from Wire's Mute period at the RFH. I'm curious to see how the band deal with the return of Rob Gotobed. He left because Wir-e wanted to progress, so what are we to make of his return? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:43:35 +0000 From: Ian Grant Subject: "Chairs Missing" At 04:30 30/11/99 -0500, BobS wrote: >Maybe I just like to be contrary, but my favourite album from the >original phase is "Chairs Missing" which I hardly ever see name-checked >when people discuss the band's early work (it seems to me to be a fairly >even split between Pink Flag and 154 when people select their >favourite). You're not alone. For the most part, "Pink Flag" sounds like a plundered treasure-trove to me. To these ears, it's perhaps the only Wire LP that has dated really badly - too many cover versions and rip-offs have not done it any favours. Or maybe it's just that I was a Napalm Death obsessive in my youth and in their prime, so punky brevity has a rather different meaning to me.... "154" is a gem of a record, but "Chairs Missing" is pure gold dust to me. It has the subtlety and deft touch that characterises all my favourite Wire material, it's full of utterly charming little sketches and diversions that seem to yield something slightly different with each visit. It contains at least one of my desert island discs - "French Film Blurred", which is *perfect* - and several others that I'd want pretty damn close to the desert island, perhaps on some kind of raft arrangement or pier. And, because it's not as popular as "Pink Flag", it's yet to be stripped of all its mystique by dimwits in search of inspiration. (As for Casper M...stop trying to put everything into boxes, man! Relax! Wire's later work doesn't belong in the box marked "New Wave" any more than their earlier albums belong in the box marked "Punk". What's "punk" anyway, when it would seem to me that, musically at least, d+b maniacs like Ed Rush & Optical or Trace have far more in common with its pioneering, rebellious, independent spirit than - shudder - The Offspring or Green Day? Categories are for dusty libraries, records are for living with.) Cheers, ig. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:52:08 PST From: "Steven Blum" Subject: Re: Instant Shed vol. 1 The basic idea of that one is to copy both sides and play them back simultaneously....so don't covet your nicely wrapped 7" if you want to hear the intended result(s). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 02:45:27 -0800 From: "Casper Milquetoast" Subject: Rejustification. >I say I say sun you say you don't like 154 maybe all that genetic >engineering is a catching up to you boy. I say you should go back >and get some education boy. First of all, I thought all the responses before this were well thought out and honestly tried to prove a point about how they felt about the albums following Pink Flags and Chairs Missing. But the case of this last response, I don't appreciate being called "boy" or telling me "you should go back and get some education boy." But in the spirit of beautiful idiocy I'd like to say fuck you and your high horse. Conversing intelligently doesn't seem to be an option. Casper M. www.skribe.net/milque ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 99 10:37:05 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Re: Justification. Reply to: re: Re: Justification. Why is it I think Robert is returning because Colin won't participate without him? On 11/30/99, Mark Short wrote: I'm curious to see how the band deal with the return of Rob Gotobed. He left because Wir-e wanted to progress, so what are we to make of his return? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:40:19 -0600 From: "MackDaddyD" Subject: Rejouin the Rejustification. caspar, sorry for the condescending comment from 'my ggeneration' listened to your stuff and it brought the pop group to mind since all us old chaps are waxing reminicient of days gone by 'we are time' was an especially brilliant memoury for me, (and recently remastered and reissued in japon) also, A-Z was actually reissued some years back, but is now available stateside as a caroline blue plate special Buy it locally or buy it at CD=Now onsale for $10.49 this week d - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Casper Milquetoast" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:45 AM Subject: Rejustification. > >I say I say sun you say you don't like 154 maybe all that genetic > >engineering is a catching up to you boy. I say you should go back > >and get some education boy. > > First of all, I thought all the responses before this were well thought > out and honestly tried to prove a point about how they felt about the > albums following Pink Flags and Chairs Missing. But the case of this > last response, I don't appreciate being called "boy" or telling me "you > should go back and get some education boy." But in the spirit of > beautiful idiocy I'd like to say fuck you and your high horse. > Conversing intelligently doesn't seem to be an option. > > Casper M. > > www.skribe.net/milque __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:30:18 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Justify my lov...er...Wire Standard Disclaimer: Warning - totally personal opinion and babbling follows. These views are simply my opinions and are not meant to slight anybody else's tastes in music or in all things Wire in any way. The fact that you are reading this as a member of a Wire mailing list proves that you're incredibly cool and talented already. (^_^) - -Paul - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hi everyone, For a totally dissenting opinion (^_^), I would argue that The Ideal Copy/Snakedrill is the finest album Wire ever made, with Colin Newman's A-Z coming in a very close second. I never got into first phase Wire - Pink Flag and Chairs Missing are like Wire's baby steps to me - important, but not something I listen to daily. (Although, the single version of Outdoor Miner was a revelation - as well as the Question of Degree single). 154 is starting to get close to the mark - Map Ref. is an excellent song among many fine others - but, for me, it's not quite there. Oddly enough, 2nd Length is the earliest jawdropping track for me. As for late period Wire, A Bell is a Cup... and IBTABA are right behind The Ideal Copy/Snakedrill and A-Z. Not quite perfect, but darn close. And, the alternate versions of the cuts from this time period on the B-sides are great too. Then, something seemed to change in Wire. Manscape, The Drill and The First Letter, while still very accomplished albums, and far better than most of the junk out there, seem to be missing something. The something that made The Ideal Copy/Snakedrill, A Bell is A Cup..., and IBTABA so perfect for me. See, my frame of reference is Ahead - that was the first song I ever heard from Wire. So, unlike most people who were lucky enough to hear Pink Flag and progress with Wire from their "punk" days, I was coming from a totally different direction - originally a progressive music fan who was being drawn into new wave music. Wire stood out from the rest of the new wave bands at the time with their amazing creativity. I had never heard sounds or production like that. It totally blew me away - in fact, it still does. As for the other bands mentioned on the list - i.e. the Fall, Sonic Youth, Television - they're great bands, but they're kinda a limited subset - part of the early new wave explosion, to my way of thinking (although The Fall probably transcends that tag). Bands that made more of an impression on me were the more muscular, dream-pop guitar-sound groups like My Bloody Valentine, Swervedriver, Catherine Wheel, Ride and Lush plus the "driven by their inner traumas" groups like Joy Division, The Pixies and Throwing Muses. Not to mention the Seattle bands (since I live in Seattle, and was tangentially involved in the scene) like Hammerbox, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam. R.E.M. is somewhere in that mix too, though they might qualify as about 4 completely different bands, due to their longevity. (^_^) There's some odd connections with these bands and Wire, too. For example, Kim Thayall of Soundgarden once said that 154 was one of his favorite records, and Lush's version of Outdoor Miner was great. Okey dokey, I'm done rambling. It's simply amazing to me how an 12 year old album like The Ideal Copy can make me get so passionate - - even after all this time. Guess that's one of the many amazing things about Wire. Yours in all things Wire, Paul P.S. I think the show in February is going to be amazing. I wouldn't even mind if Wire decided to play all of their old songs simultaneously. (^_-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:05:47 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Justify my lov...er...Wire > As for the other bands mentioned on the list - i.e. the Fall, >Sonic Youth, Television - they're great bands, but they're kinda a >limited subset - part of the early new wave explosion, to my way of >thinking (although The Fall probably transcends that tag). Most of what you've written (as with everyone else, of course) is, of course, a matter of pure subjectivity, but here a couple of facts might be worth asserting -- AFAIK, Sonic Youth came out of NYC's no (as opposed to "new") wave scene ... & Television were more like precursors to the "early new wave explosion," since they went back to, what, '73 or thereabouts? I'd call the Fall about a 1 1/2th-generation punk band, insofar as they were out there trodding the Manchester stages back in '77, preceded locally I presume only by real pioneers like the Buzzcocks. Also, to some extent it all depends largely on your definition of "new wave" ... originally it was pretty much a corporate-created (by Seymour Stein of Sire, I believe) "listener-friendly" synonym for punk -- at some point it started being used for quirky, often keyboard-based bands like Devo, the B-52s, etc. Dan ------------------------------ Date: 30 Nov 99 16:36:00 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Justify my lov...er...Wire Reply to: re: Justify my lov...er...Wire I was always a little skeptical of The Ideal Copy. It was too short, like a cobbled-together Capitol Beatles' album, and unlike Snakedrill it sounded self-conscious. "Ahead" sounded like someone involved in the production had been listening to New Order circa "Everything's Gone Green," or even (argh!) the Cure circa "The Head on the Door" or whatever it was. Colin is credited with "driving" A BELL is a CUP, and it is that album's sheen that seemed to put off Graham and Bruce. I'd argue there are no finer Wire tracks than "Silk Skin Paws" and "Boiling Boy." Jack On 11/30/99, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: As for late period Wire, A Bell is a Cup... and IBTABA are right behind The Ideal Copy/Snakedrill and A-Z. Not quite perfect, but darn close. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:41:51 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Re[2]: All sorts > >if i have to pick one track to play to a non-wire fan , i normally go for "blessed state". its just a real fave of mine , i'm not claiming it's particularly "representative". map ref might be another good idea , but there's so much to go for. I have to say those were my first 2 thoughts as well ... but one can't really go wrong with any of the poppier tunes, from Fragile to Outdoor Miner to Used To to The 15th to ... whatever. I will note that my first wife, whose musical tastes weren't quite as eclectic (read: fucking weird) as mine (for instance, she seemed less than enchanted by Mars' Helen Forsdale on No New York -- no *wonder* we split up), was quite taken with On Returning, so perhaps you're on to something there. If the non-Wire fan in question is an Elastica fan, of course you've got to go with 3 Girl Rhumba. Which isn't a bad idea *anyway* ... ditto for Ex-Lion Tamer. > >as a big fall/wire fan paul , what did you think of the elastica/mes collaborations then? p > > >The Fall, The Fall? What can you say about them? Possibly the best band to come out of the English punk scene. And boy, did they grow. Right up until "Shiftwork" - then, unfortunately they lost their way a bit. But, never mind, what a legacy they have left. So many diverse albums, but all gems in there own right. Can't think of any band who have offered so much (apart, possibly, from The Residents!). Dunno ... some of their post-Shiftwork albums are among my favorites of theirs, ranking pretty close to Witch Trials, Wonderful & Frightening, This Nation's & Bend Sinister -- Code: Selfish, Infotainment Scan & Light User Syndrome. And the new one certainly hangs together better for me than its predecessor, Levitate. Dan > >Last night I was doing a compilation tape of my favourite songs for someone who hasn't been exposed to a great deal of "good" music. I only allowed myself to put one song from each band, and found myself really struggling for a wire song. In the end, I opted for "On Returning". What one song would anyone else have chosen, basically to sum up the band? > >Paul KW > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:49:21 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Re[2]: All sorts >as a big fall/wire fan paul , what did you think of the elastica/mes >collaborations then? p > > >Ha, good question! Bought it, played it, put it away - is probably the best >answer (and this from someone who actually quite liked the Elastica album) > >Paul KW > Paul, Schmaul -- IIIIIIIIII usually list my 3 top bands ever as Wire, the Fall & Joy Division (who of course have an unfair advantage over various other much-loved bands of mine, like the Mekons, because they ceased to exist before they could take any missteps). Anyway, my own thoughts on the Elastica EP -- & I, too, am fond of the album; just this morning, in fact, I was having a great time watching the Connection video (which I'd never seen before, not having had cable all decade ... a friend recently sent me a bunch of MTV 120 Minutes dubs), & their show in Memphis 3 or 4 years ago was quite fun -- pretty much mirrors Paul's. I gave it 3 or 4 plays, marveling mainly at how closely whichever song's chorus mimics Kidney Bingos, then put it away, though I'm sure to drag it out again sooner rather than later. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:53:29 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Justify my lov...er...Wire > Reply to: re: Justify my lov...er...Wire > >I was always a little skeptical of The Ideal Copy. It was too short, like a cobbled-together Capitol Beatles' album, and unlike Snakedrill it sounded self-conscious. "Ahead" sounded like someone involved in the production had been listening to New Order circa "Everything's Gone Green," or even (argh!) the Cure circa "The Head on the Door" or whatever it was. Which may well explain my immediate fondness for Ahead, since the Cure remain favorites of mine, even though they've done nothing that's really blown me away for the last 12 years or so. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:01:34 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: Rejouin the Rejustification. >caspar, >sorry for the condescending comment from 'my ggeneration' >listened to your stuff and it brought the pop group to mind >since all us old chaps are waxing reminicient of days gone by >'we are time' was an especially brilliant memoury for me, >(and recently remastered and reissued in japon) I *thought* that quote had to come from somewhere, but couldn't make out where (need but don't own We Are Time ... have Y dubbed only on cassette ... cherish my vinyl of Mass Murder & Prostitutes). > >also, >A-Z was actually reissued some years back, but is now available stateside as >a caroline blue plate special >Buy it locally or buy it at CD=Now onsale for $10.49 this week Brilliant -- right now, CD Now's site won't come up on my machine. Does the track-listing differ from the Restless Retro release of a few years back, which added The Classic Remains, Alone on Piano, This Picture, Not Me & Don't Bring Reminders as bonus tracks? In an ideal world, the tracks (of which offhand I can name only We Means We Starts) from the bonus disc that came out with some Colin CD reissue awhile back would be added ... Brilliant album, A-Z, with or without bonus cuts -- easily my favorite of the various solo efforts. Dan >d >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Casper Milquetoast" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:45 AM >Subject: Rejustification. > > >> >I say I say sun you say you don't like 154 maybe all that genetic >> >engineering is a catching up to you boy. I say you should go back >> >and get some education boy. >> >> First of all, I thought all the responses before this were well thought >> out and honestly tried to prove a point about how they felt about the >> albums following Pink Flags and Chairs Missing. But the case of this >> last response, I don't appreciate being called "boy" or telling me "you >> should go back and get some education boy." But in the spirit of >> beautiful idiocy I'd like to say fuck you and your high horse. >> Conversing intelligently doesn't seem to be an option. >> >> Casper M. >> >> www.skribe.net/milque > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. >Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:38:16 -0600 (CST) From: flaherty michael w Subject: Chairs; A-Z bonus tracks; Manscape > From: "Casper Milquetoast" > > I had just finished watching the video for Eardrum Buzz and I'm asking = > myself what exactly happened to Wire in the years following Pink Flags = > and Chairs Missing. They grew. This doesn't mean you or anyone else has to like them (I like the original 3 albums best myself), but they couldn't have kept doing Pink Flag if they're lives had depened on it. > old and can only only comprehend the relevance of "punk rock." But I do = > consider myself well versed in progressive forms of music today and = Have you tried Dome? Depends on what you mean by "progessive," I guess. > Maybe I just like to be contrary, but my favourite album from the > original phase is "Chairs Missing" which I hardly ever see name-checked > when people discuss the band's early work (it seems to me to be a fairly > even split between Pink Flag and 154 when people select their > favourite). > BobS Chairs Missing seems to be a lot of people's second favorite :). > thanks again for your support, > charles > wmo@interserv.com > http://wiremailorder.com/ > > >I'll admit that IF they're as good as the two new tracks on Colin's > A-Z>reissue (which I finally broke down and bought) it would be worth > it. > > > > Sorry if this has been hashed to death in previous posts, but I didn't > hear about the A-Z reissue. What's on this disc? And, where did you > g*t it? > > - -Paul The three b-side song from the two singles, and 2 demo tracks. Sorry, I don't have it w/ me, and I'm not good w/ names. I bought it from Charles, and if you're in the US you can reach at the address above--but hurry, he's not going to be carrying it much longer. It's a UK only pressing. When this list started, a great majority hated Manscape. Judging by the recent (unexpected) number of responses in its favor, I'm not sure that's true anymore. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:58:42 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: Chairs; A-Z bonus tracks; Manscape >> >I'll admit that IF they're as good as the two new tracks on Colin's>> A-Z>reissue (which I finally broke down and bought) it would be worth >> it. >> > >> >> Sorry if this has been hashed to death in previous posts, but I didn't >> hear about the A-Z reissue. What's on this disc? And, where did you>> g*t it? >> >> - -Paul > >The three b-side song from the two singles, and 2 demo tracks. Sorry, I >don't have it w/ me, and I'm not good w/ names. I bought it from Charles, >and if you're in the US you can reach at the address above--but hurry, >he's not going to be carrying it much longer. It's a UK only pressing.> Hiya Michael! This sounds like the standard Beggars Banquet A-Z CD. (Which, come to think of it, I got as an import a long time ago.) So, you're saying the bonus tracks are: 1. The Classic Remains 2. Alone on Piano 3. This picture with the two demo tracks 1. Not Me 2. Don't Bring Reminders This is what's on my CD. I thought there was *another* re-issue with still more tracks. Let me know if these are the bonus tracks you have. Thanks! Paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #237 *******************************