From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #221 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, November 13 1999 Volume 02 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Wire @ RFH ["charles / wmo" ] Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #220 [kevin eden ] Re[2]: Wire @ RFH [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Silo - who he? [Mark Short ] Re: Silo - who he? [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: Silo - who he? [Dave Walker ] Re: Wire @ RFH [Obie Sanders ] Re[2]: Silo - who he? [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] tortoise vs silo vs wire vs tedium ["MackDaddyD" ] Re: tortoise vs silo vs wire vs tedium [Obie Sanders ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:48:38 -0500 From: "charles / wmo" Subject: Re: Wire @ RFH >Excerpts from mail: 11-Nov-99 Wire @ RFH by Wireviews@yahoo.com >> The rumour mill has been in full flow for the last few >> months about what everyone will happen at the Wire RFH >> gig, but what few people have said is what they'd >> actually like to see. So, what are people's thoughts >> on this? Yeah I bet the sound like SILO or TORTOISE or something like that. They're bound to be Quite rusty after... 10 years of inactivity? God knows Bruce has to re-learn all his parts! Fortunately there seems to be some core chemistry between Colin and Bruce and Robert that is hopefully like a fine wine. But i think the most promising aspect is the eventuallity that they will record and providing they don't KILL each other, the past ten year's knowledge topped onto the First letter does indeed sound better than a new MBV or LFK record. (and having mumbled all that - why hasn't this list gone into Scala's output?!) Rumor has it that Paul Smith aka Blast First is Wire's manager. I think I would rather be at T+5 than at ground zero when the amps are finally switched on! Flights would be cheaper! :) charles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:32:01 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #220 oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Trying to second guess what it will all be about is like pissing in the wind ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:35:06 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: Wire @ RFH >>>> well if they're gonna sound like tortoise the gig'll be a good way to catch up on some sleep. i saw them support stereolab and it was dull dull dull , the words that kept creeping into my head were "progressive rock". i'd hope for something a bit more abrasive maybe. we shall indeed see.p Yeah I bet the sound like SILO or TORTOISE or something like that. They're bound to be Quite rusty after... 10 years of inactivity? God knows Bruce has to re-learn all his parts! Fortunately there seems to be some core chemistry between Colin and Bruce and Robert that is hopefully like a fine wine. But i think the most promising aspect is the eventuallity that they will record and providing they don't KILL each other, the past ten year's knowledge topped onto the First letter does indeed sound better than a new MBV or LFK record. (and having mumbled all that - why hasn't this list gone into Scala's output?!) Rumor has it that Paul Smith aka Blast First is Wire's manager. I think I would rather be at T+5 than at ground zero when the amps are finally switched on! Flights would be cheaper! :) charles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:49:41 +0000 From: Mark Short Subject: Silo - who he? >>>>>Yeah I bet the sound like SILO or TORTOISE or something like that. What do Silo sound like? I've heard one Tortoise album, and I can't really imagine Wire ever sounding quite that disinterested. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:05:36 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: Silo - who he? silo are one of the swim acts. try the "templates" 7" for an easy intro. not a lot like tortoise , thankfully.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Silo - who he? Author: MIME:mshort@lucent.com at INTERNET Date: 12/11/1999 15:51 >>>>>Yeah I bet the sound like SILO or TORTOISE or something like that. What do Silo sound like? I've heard one Tortoise album, and I can't really imagine Wire ever sounding quite that disinterested. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:14:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: Silo - who he? On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Mark Short wrote: > What do Silo sound like? I've heard one Tortoise album, and I can't > really imagine Wire ever sounding quite that disinterested. Yow, its let's bag on Tortoise day here on idealcopy. If the reformed Wire does tracks as cool as "Djed" or "Jetty" I'll be a very happy man indeed. Let's wait until we *hear* the new Wire stuff before we start slagging entire genres, shall we? -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:35:08 -0800 From: Obie Sanders Subject: Re: Wire @ RFH Well, Tortoise isn't that bad , if your in the mood , they are down right brilliant in some aspects. The other factor we must consider is that the lads are not exactly young at this point ,the "punk attitude" hopefully has progressed to something bigger, as it did with "the ideal copy". But , yeah , I don't need to be put to sleep either paul.rabjohn@ssab.com wrote: > > >>>> well if they're gonna sound like tortoise the gig'll be a good way to catch up on some sleep. i saw them support stereolab and it was dull dull dull , the words that kept creeping into my head were "progressive rock". i'd hope for something a bit more abrasive maybe. we shall indeed see.p > > Yeah I bet the sound like SILO or TORTOISE or something like that. They're bound to be Quite rusty after... 10 years of inactivity? God knows Bruce has to re-learn all his parts! Fortunately there seems to be some core chemistry between Colin and Bruce and Robert that is hopefully like a fine wine. But i think the most promising aspect is the eventuallity that they will record and providing they don't KILL each other, the past ten year's knowledge topped onto the First letter does indeed sound better than a new MBV or LFK record. (and having mumbled all that - why hasn't this list gone into Scala's output?!) > > Rumor has it that Paul Smith aka Blast First is Wire's manager. I think I would rather be at T+5 than at ground zero when the amps are finally switched on! Flights would be cheaper! :) > > charles - -- **************************** Obie Sanders/ System Administrator ADN - --------------------------- osanders@adnc.com/ext.273 **************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:53:54 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: Silo - who he? On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, Mark Short wrote: > What do Silo sound like? I've heard one Tortoise album, and I can't > really imagine Wire ever sounding quite that disinterested. Yow, its let's bag on Tortoise day here on idealcopy. If the reformed Wire does tracks as cool as "Djed" or "Jetty" I'll be a very happy man indeed. Let's wait until we *hear* the new Wire stuff before we start slagging entire genres, shall we? - -d.w. >>>>> er , are tortoise a "genre" ? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 16:24:31 -0600 From: "MackDaddyD" Subject: tortoise vs silo vs wire vs tedium the post-rock tortoise / gastr / o'rourke baklash gathers momentum and i for one can appreciate some of it, tho mr. o'rourke turned me on to lotsa cool stuff 5 or 6 years age, for which i will be grateful i beg to differ with lumping silo and tortoise together true, they are both groove oriented, but so are miles, sly, james brown (oh yeah but THEY'RE not white ;) i found instar to be absolutely brilliant, while trans am for example bore me to tears doing all the right things the probability of wire folllowing anyone else's vision is so remote as to be dismissed out of hand __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:45:28 -0800 From: Obie Sanders Subject: Re: tortoise vs silo vs wire vs tedium Good point. I guess that bottom line: If it sounds good , but , it , if not , then don't. What else can you do , but have you ever known Wire to sound bad? MackDaddyD wrote: > > the post-rock tortoise / gastr / o'rourke baklash gathers momentum > and i for one can appreciate some of it, tho mr. o'rourke turned me on to > lotsa cool stuff 5 or 6 years age, for which i will be grateful > i beg to differ with lumping silo and tortoise together > true, they are both groove oriented, but so are miles, sly, james brown (oh > yeah but THEY'RE not white ;) > i found instar to be absolutely brilliant, while trans am for example bore > me to tears doing all the right things > the probability of wire folllowing anyone else's vision is so remote as to > be dismissed out of hand > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -- **************************** Obie Sanders/ System Administrator ADN - --------------------------- osanders@adnc.com/ext.273 **************************** ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #221 *******************************