From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #213 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, November 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 213 Today's Subjects: ----------------- WMO ["Wilson, Paul" ] RE: chicago/bowie ["Ciscon, Ray" ] RE: New to the List ["Ciscon, Ray" ] Good vs Bad Radio [BillyD ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:32:52 -0000 From: "Wilson, Paul" Subject: WMO I went onto the WMO site to order some stuff (and pay by credit card), but was unsure if I could do this. The site gives the impression that UK customers should do something other than this. Does anyone know? Paul K Wilson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:25:44 -0600 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: chicago/bowie Paul, hi ray , did you see the chicago drill live? me i love the studio finest drops but maybe the first one you hear sticks the longest. I am a live Wire virgin... so when the reformed Wire tours next spring, I'll be sure to be there! As for my preferences for the live 'Finest Drops', I think the thing that attracts me to that version is Roberts drumming on that particular track. and don't start me off on bowie , his d+b antics were laughable even by the standards of his 80's/90's work. I'm a pretty big techno/electronica fan, but I still don't care to differentiate the various sub-genres.... If it sounds good and I like it, that's all it takes. But as far as established artists taking shots at different 'sounds', I'll put in my two cents and say that I always thought that Orbital's 'Are We Here?', was a pretty successful take on d+b from artists not normally known for that style of music. (totally off-topic funny story. i was listening to radio one about a year ago and they were interviewing the singer from fab 80's band then jericho (oh what heroes of mine they were). he was talking about the new "super-group" he'd formed together with fish from marillion and tony hadley of spandau ballet. do prospects come any better than this? sadly i have yet to hear any work from this awe-inspiring array of talent. the dj then asked him to choose a record , he chose what he said was far and away the most innovative and original record released in the 90's. from all the possibilities he went for "little wonder" by bowie , a record i'd certainly agree was in a class of its own. but maybe not in the same way as mr jericho......)p Wow... another 'super-group' gone nowhere... who'd of thought it possible... Cheers, Ray Ciscon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:58:32 -0600 From: "Ciscon, Ray" Subject: RE: New to the List >My first experience with Wire was hearing 'Eardrum Buzz' on a local Chicago >radio station, WXRT to be specific, in the late 80's. I >picked up 'IBTABA', gave it a listen and liked about half the album and >then pretty much put it aside. Another WXRT Wire convert! They played 'Eardrum Buzz' during their normal programming, but they relegated great stuff like 'Drill' to their late-night show, 'The Big Beat.' I guess the melodic aspects of the former allowed it to cross over. At the time, they didn't have a playlist, unlike most commercial stations. There were some rules, however, such as "Don't play an older song more than once every three days," or something to that effect, and they avoided overplaying newer stuff. And each DJ had his or her own personal style, much like college radio. Are they still like that..? Nostalgic and out of the reach of WXRT, Amanda Unfortunately WXRT is NOT still like that... I still have them as one of my car radio presets, but they appear to have lapsed into a kind of pseudo-classic rock/AOR/Alternative format from hell. I think the original owner of the station sold it to someone else and that very cool DJ ethic you described is basically gone... It seems that every time I tune in WXRT I'm either hearing Led Zepplin or Soundgarden... two of my LEAST favorite bands. The passing of the WXRT of the 80's is definitely worth lamenting. That station is basically responsible for introducing me to most of the bands I've grown to love and admire during the 80's: Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, Genesis/Peter Gabriel, Ultravox, New Order, Shriekback, OMD, They Might Be Giants, Heaven 17, REM, Clash, The Jam, XTC, and of course, WIRE. Chicago has pretty much become a vast radio wasteland for any type of 'adventuresome' music. The self-proclaimed 'Alternative' station, Q-101 is in fact the only station that plays any of the new 'good' stuff i.e. Chemical Brothers, Underworld, Crystal Method, or Moby's latest album 'Play', but you've got to listen to 45 minutes of Metallica and other shite to get to the occasional gem. If anyone out there has any suggestions for stations that pump enough wattage into Chicago's western suburbs, please let me know! Cheers, Ray Ciscon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:01:41 -0800 (PST) From: BillyD Subject: Good vs Bad Radio It is a shame. There used to be a 'good' radio station in every city in the 80s. We had one, sometimes two in Pittsburgh. I miss those radio days. Thankfully, most of that great music has made it to cd and now I can take it to work with me each day. I'm sure I have freaked out my co-workers on occasion. Cheers, Billy ===== . ./\/\/\. [ . . ] /\ -- -Get Well Sammy! 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