From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #201 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, October 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 201 Today's Subjects: ----------------- new email address ["MackDaddyD" ] Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #200 ["Gigi" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:37:25 -0500 From: "MackDaddyD" Subject: new email address I have a new email address due to GeoCities' absorbtion by the Borg (yahoo) some a few months back. Yahoo assures me that I will get my geocities email, but what was a sketchy service seems to have worstened, therefore: please write me at dmack2002@yahoo.com in the future or altenativly squonk_upholstery@hotmail.com thank you david mckenzie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:12:59 -0400 From: "Gigi" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #200 >on line, but I'll rather miss the personal style of the mail order >business--a few ideas occured to me: >1. It's a shame that MUZI and the O'Shea album were never >released: >somehow it seems like unfinished business. Again, I >do understand the >economics of it all, but an open question: >what about very cheap, no frill >editions? What if enough people >were willing to pay in advance (sort of >like Fripp's "bootleg" >club? Just thought I'd ask.... >2. I can understand why Bruce is considering CDRs for "Haring > >2"; there >can't be much of a market for it. What I find annoying is >that everyone >with this technology (well, a lot of people with it) >are not concerned >with those who simply can't afford it right >now. It's not as if your >local library or university will let you install >equipment for downloads. > >On the other side, I was thrilled to see that Graham's label will still >be >available through WMO; of course, Colin's stuff will be >available through>Swim (I hope his "major" releases won't be >download only). I hope Bruce's >future releases also remain readily available (I assume that he's >still on >Mute?). Thank you for the compliment! Remember, however, that _I am_ at the other end of the computer! As for technology, If this question regards converting a digital format such as MP3 to CD-R, I don't we would offer anything _without_ the option of a physical format. But expecting someone with an interest in music such as this to have access to the internet is _not_ unreasonable! CD-R or "cheap" releases can and may happen, but something like MZUI requires a substantial advance to the record label for the master. If we sell 38 copies of it, it doesn't recoup. The point of the Haring2 on cd-r is that there are 1000 copies of the original box. I think of it s a reward (?) for those that purchased it for the first go around. But please realize that WMO has a finite catalog. Even more so with a reactivated Wire! Fripp's "club" idea is possible the most promising (IMHOOC) thing to happen to the record industry in Ages. If we had to start over, WMO would certainly exist on a subscription basis. the Problem however is that there simply aren't that many Wire fans. Fripp does publish the number of CC subscribers - it's in the several thousands. This affords certain economies of scale. For WMO to attempt something similar, we would need a number somewhere around 200-300 prepaid subscribers. It would make perfect sense to release MZUI and Michael O'Shea under that type of program. Do you think we could achieve this? Perhaps this idea of subscription could be a way for the "New Wire" to exsist? With Wire reactivating (seems I am getting some flack for leaking this?!? hahaha) will give new momentum to WMO. Certainly it seems ridiculous to let this network die down. The Internet has created new opportunities that were inconcievable when it was started five years ago. The change to eCommerce is inevitable. The larger issue isn't really technology, but marketplace. It is completely impractical to sell WMO (or Swim or Origin for that matter) CDs in a record store through retail distribution channels. This should not be a shock to anyone. Finally, I would stress again that you the customer realize how important your _direct_ purchase from an organization such as Wire Mail Order, Discipline Global Mobile, Post-Everything, etc... really is - the difference between 20 direct purchases and 220 direct purchases enables something like MZUI to happen and labels such as Swim, Thousand and the like to continue to exsist. thanks charles / wmo ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #201 *******************************