From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #158 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, August 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 158 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Colin and Malka in Toronto [Eric and Amber ] Re: Colin and Malka in Toronto [aschi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu] Re: Very brief note about the Boston show... ["nicholas marcilio" ] WMO - the future [kevin eden ] Re: Immersion videos [Wireviews ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:12:16 -0400 From: Eric and Amber Subject: Colin and Malka in Toronto Wow! What a great show. I don't know what happened out in Boston to bring about bad reviews, but they must have corrected the problem. From start to finish it was a top-notch performance. They started right around midnight and proceeded to play the majority of the songs on the live CD as well as Hacol Zaram Beyachad and a fantastic new (I think) track called Dirty Loop. As an encore they played Turn, which really knocked me out! Malka's videos projected on a screen in the background blended really well with the music, particularly during a BALLSY version of It's Odd. Very good mix, too...not muddy at all.That show was definitely worth the trip from Cleveland. Still swimming... Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: aschi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Colin and Malka in Toronto > Wow! What a great show. I don't know what happened out in Boston to bring > about bad reviews, but they must have corrected the problem. From start to > finish it was a top-notch performance. They started right around midnight > and proceeded to play the majority of the songs on the live CD as well as > Hacol Zaram Beyachad and a fantastic new (I think) track called Dirty Loop. > As an encore they played Turn, which really knocked me out! Malka's videos > projected on a screen in the background blended really well with the music, > particularly during a BALLSY version of It's Odd. Very good mix, too...not > muddy at all.That show was definitely worth the trip from Cleveland. Videos!? We didn't get any videos! At one point, the lights pulsed, but that was the extent of the visuals. Amanda ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 1999 00:46:31 +0000 From: "nicholas marcilio" Subject: Re: Very brief note about the Boston show... On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 17:45, Aaron Mandel wrote: >words... yes, there's another thing that might have improved the show. >Malka's english lyrics were pretty dopey; she might be better in her >native language, though the fact that i was able to follow most of the >hebrew lyrics too suggests that they weren't exactly "Cheeking Tongues" in >terms of verbal complexity. Neither of them were the lyricists in their former bands, so ... The Videos only made it to NYC and Toronto, and were done by a fellow named Dave..They were entirely his creations, and made those shows in my opinion. all in all a rather disapointing tour, less than 80 people at the Toronto show, less than 40 in Halifax. Boston and Phily numbers were similar. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: WMO - the future The September Newsletter will shortly be available on the WMO site (www.wiremailorder.com). It will include the following statement of our future plans. _______________________________________________________ WMO - The future.... With the release of Dome's 'Yclept' in mid-September WMO is to begin the slow process of winding down operations. All outstanding releases, bar one, have been shelved and may not appear at all. [See below] When WMO was founded in 1994 we knew that we had a limited repertoire of releases and a finite period in which to operate. Five years on we feel we have achieved what we set out to do. However, the past two years in particular have been very tough. Following the release of Wire' 'Coating's in October 1997 our UK distributor, Vital, bought out it's biggest rival RTM and in the consolidation of their business a number of labels were dropped from their roster. WMO (and Swim~) were victims. Distribution also fell through in the United States shortly afterwards. The period following these crises WMO managed to regain distribution with Cargo in the UK and World Music Distribution in the US and release P'o and 'Dugga' in October 1998. Since then our financial position has not got any better and with the release of the Dome CD we have decided to draw a line on any future activities. Distribution for the world will be covered by Cargo. The past four years have been extremely enjoyable, frustrating, annoying but above all fulfilling. We are extremely proud of what has been achieved, despite the setbacks, and although future planned releases may not now appear we are still going to be around for some time yet. 'Down but not out'. Needless to say we would like to thank all who phoned, faxed, e-mailed and cajoled. Thanks for the support. We would like to thank the following who, over the years, have provided help and support: Messr Gilbert, Gotobed, Lewis and Newman: without whom... Iain Adam; Denis Blackham; Michael Bull; Bill Dolan @ Cargo; Dave Coppenhall; Jim DeRogatis; Mark Gage; Craig Grannel @ Wireviews; Simon Gutteridge; Stephen Harper, Bill Hein; Paul Kendall; Arthur Nalis @ Dutch East; Peter Rehberg @ Mego; Russell Mills; Daggan Stamenkovich and all @ Origin; Mary J. Owen; Didier Pilon @ WMD; Charles Powne; Peter Price; Alicia Rose; Desmond Simmons; Maggi Smith; Malka Spigel; Sharon Street; Andrew and Howard Jacques @ These; David Tidball; Mike Harding & Jon Wozencroft @ Touch; Geraint Jones @ Vital; Andrew Westmeyer @ The Wire Page; Peter Wright; all radio stations and magazines who supported us, all those who 'Whored' and 'Dugga-d' and anybody we forgot! Kevin S. Eden - WMO UK Charles K. Snider - WMO US September 1999 _______________________________________________________ Obviously there are still some unanswered questions: Will I still be able to buy WMO items from September 1999 onwards? Yes. All titles are available directly from WMO or through your local retailer with the exception of: Lewis/Gilbert and Mills - Pacific/Specific (in a different place) - now deleted. Wire - Coatings - will be deleted in October 2000. The three year licensing deal with Mute and the BBC expires then. All remaining titles will be sold until stocks are exhausted. There will be no repressings. Will I still be able to buy non-WMO releases from Wire Mail Order in the US? Wire Mail Order (US) will carry on trading up to 31st December 1999. With effect from 1st January 2000 all mail order and business enquiries should be directed to WMO (UK) who only stock WMO and Origin titles. What about the WMO titles that haven't been released? WMO 7CD: Colin Newman - Vox Pop Colin has stated that his "future plans do not include the compiling or re-recording of material for 'Vox Pop'. Should I wish to make this album in the future it will be released, via Swim~, as a custom CD-R only." WMO 10CD: The Ex-Lion Tamers - Flap King There were no plans to release this. Two Wire 'tribute' CD's are enough for any group. WMO 12CDR: Michael O'Shea We have shelved this release. The cost of production etc. is too prohibitive when the sales potential is very small.* WMO 15CDR: Bruce Gilbert - The Haring 2 A possible contender for future release as a mail-order custom CD-R. Watch this space. WMO 16CD: gilbertpossstenger - manchesterlondon Plans for a 2000 release are hopeful. More news as it happens. WMO 17CDR: Gilbert / Lewis / Mills - MZUI We have shelved this release. The cost of production etc. is too prohibitive when the sales potential is very small.* * anyone who hasn't heard these albums and still wants to should contact WMO directly. What will happen to the quarterly Newsletter? With effect from 1st January 2000 the WMO web site will be shut down. The September 1999 Newsletter will be the last to appear on our web site. It will still be available by post on request. From December 1999 the 'Wire Newsletter' and the Newsletter archive will appear on the Wireviews web site: http://welcome.to/wireviews === kevin eden wmo po box 112 stockport cheshire sk3 9fd uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin eden Subject: WMO - the future The September Newsletter will shortly be available on the WMO site (www.wiremailorder.com). It will include the following statement of our future plans. _______________________________________________________ WMO - The future.... With the release of Dome's 'Yclept' in mid-September WMO is to begin the slow process of winding down operations. All outstanding releases, bar one, have been shelved and may not appear at all. [See below] When WMO was founded in 1994 we knew that we had a limited repertoire of releases and a finite period in which to operate. Five years on we feel we have achieved what we set out to do. However, the past two years in particular have been very tough. Following the release of Wire' 'Coating's in October 1997 our UK distributor, Vital, bought out it's biggest rival RTM and in the consolidation of their business a number of labels were dropped from their roster. WMO (and Swim~) were victims. Distribution also fell through in the United States shortly afterwards. The period following these crises WMO managed to regain distribution with Cargo in the UK and World Music Distribution in the US and release P'o and 'Dugga' in October 1998. Since then our financial position has not got any better and with the release of the Dome CD we have decided to draw a line on any future activities. Distribution for the world will be covered by Cargo. The past four years have been extremely enjoyable, frustrating, annoying but above all fulfilling. We are extremely proud of what has been achieved, despite the setbacks, and although future planned releases may not now appear we are still going to be around for some time yet. 'Down but not out'. Needless to say we would like to thank all who phoned, faxed, e-mailed and cajoled. Thanks for the support. We would like to thank the following who, over the years, have provided help and support: Messr Gilbert, Gotobed, Lewis and Newman: without whom... Iain Adam; Denis Blackham; Michael Bull; Bill Dolan @ Cargo; Dave Coppenhall; Jim DeRogatis; Mark Gage; Craig Grannel @ Wireviews; Simon Gutteridge; Stephen Harper, Bill Hein; Paul Kendall; Arthur Nalis @ Dutch East; Peter Rehberg @ Mego; Russell Mills; Daggan Stamenkovich and all @ Origin; Mary J. Owen; Didier Pilon @ WMD; Charles Powne; Peter Price; Alicia Rose; Desmond Simmons; Maggi Smith; Malka Spigel; Sharon Street; Andrew and Howard Jacques @ These; David Tidball; Mike Harding & Jon Wozencroft @ Touch; Geraint Jones @ Vital; Andrew Westmeyer @ The Wire Page; Peter Wright; all radio stations and magazines who supported us, all those who 'Whored' and 'Dugga-d' and anybody we forgot! Kevin S. Eden - WMO UK Charles K. Snider - WMO US September 1999 _______________________________________________________ Obviously there are still some unanswered questions: Will I still be able to buy WMO items from September 1999 onwards? Yes. All titles are available directly from WMO or through your local retailer with the exception of: Lewis/Gilbert and Mills - Pacific/Specific (in a different place) - now deleted. Wire - Coatings - will be deleted in October 2000. The three year licensing deal with Mute and the BBC expires then. All remaining titles will be sold until stocks are exhausted. There will be no repressings. Will I still be able to buy non-WMO releases from Wire Mail Order in the US? Wire Mail Order (US) will carry on trading up to 31st December 1999. With effect from 1st January 2000 all mail order and business enquiries should be directed to WMO (UK) who only stock WMO and Origin titles. What about the WMO titles that haven't been released? WMO 7CD: Colin Newman - Vox Pop Colin has stated that his "future plans do not include the compiling or re-recording of material for 'Vox Pop'. Should I wish to make this album in the future it will be released, via Swim~, as a custom CD-R only." WMO 10CD: The Ex-Lion Tamers - Flap King There were no plans to release this. Two Wire 'tribute' CD's are enough for any group. WMO 12CDR: Michael O'Shea We have shelved this release. The cost of production etc. is too prohibitive when the sales potential is very small.* WMO 15CDR: Bruce Gilbert - The Haring 2 A possible contender for future release as a mail-order custom CD-R. Watch this space. WMO 16CD: gilbertpossstenger - manchesterlondon Plans for a 2000 release are hopeful. More news as it happens. WMO 17CDR: Gilbert / Lewis / Mills - MZUI We have shelved this release. The cost of production etc. is too prohibitive when the sales potential is very small.* * anyone who hasn't heard these albums and still wants to should contact WMO directly. What will happen to the quarterly Newsletter? With effect from 1st January 2000 the WMO web site will be shut down. The September 1999 Newsletter will be the last to appear on our web site. It will still be available by post on request. From December 1999 the 'Wire Newsletter' and the Newsletter archive will appear on the Wireviews web site: http://welcome.to/wireviews === kevin eden wmo po box 112 stockport cheshire sk3 9fd uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Wireviews Subject: Re: Immersion videos - --- nicholas marcilio wrote: > The Videos only made it to NYC and Toronto, and > were done by a fellow > named Dave..They were entirely his creations, and > made those shows in my > opinion. What videos were played? If they included slow fading shots of art pieces and photographs, then they were by Immersion. As for Dave, I don't know who he is ... Craig/wv === >>> Craig Grannell / Wireviews >>> Visit Wireviews at: http://welcome.to/wireviews http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk/wirehome.html >>> wireviews@yahoo.com >>> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #158 *******************************