From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #144 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, August 7 1999 Volume 02 : Number 144 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 ["Robert Jazz" ] Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 ["Mack" ] Re: NEW poll [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re[2]: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 [Aaron Mandel ] Re[2]: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 [paul.rabjohn@ssab.com] Re: NEW poll ["ben hellmann" ] re: NEW poll ["Jack Steinmann" ] re: essentials first ["Jack Steinmann" ] More on the smoe.org outage [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:56:55 EDT From: "Robert Jazz" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 Hello everyone, I have all the Wire releases proper as well as things like 'Behind the Curtain' and Colin's solo releases, but am completely at a loss when looking at all of the releases from the other members. Don't have any "He Said..." etc. This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list which releases I should start with?? In my travels I see used copies show up from time to time but would rather start with essentials first. thanks, - - Robert _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:14:03 -0500 From: "Mack" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 Robert, You will get responses from all over the map on this one, but here's my .02 He Said - Hail Colin Newman - A to Z - Not To Dome - 1 2 3 4 I don't know why, but I consider the older material more essential, at least from a Wire(ish) standpoint I can throw on any of the aforementioned records and they sound as fresh as the first day I bought them That said the ONLY purchase I ever regretted was He Said - Take Care - and I ended picking up a copy on the cheap last year which doesn't sound so bad to my ears now. I omitted any of Bruce's recordings just because I think his stuff takes a 'certain taste' which doesn't necessarily follow a taste for Wire. > This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list which > releases I should start with?? > In my travels I see used copies show up from time to time but would rather > start with essentials first. > thanks, > - Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:16:42 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re: NEW poll Maybe we can revise this poll : What "rock" acts in the last 3 years do you fancy? Mine are fairly easy : Radiohead , Blur , Pulp (you would think I still live in the U.K.) >> oh god we're going to get a load of people trying to define "what is rock?" if we're not careful. sidestepping that one , i put pj harvey and the dandy warhols last time , who i guess are rock (at least some of the time). some more ideas ; juliana hatfield / sidi bou said / verve / bluetones. i guess not many would argue with your first 3 suggestions anyway. (and after this i guess we have to move over to nominating the dregs in these 2 categories. i'll start thinking)p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:32:21 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 there's a huge pile to choose from and i know a lot of people on this list have varying opinions. but colin's first 2 albums (A-z and "not to") are really a continuation of the wire thread (not to contains a lot of old wire songs from the "D&E" era). the other colin albums are quite different (c/suicide and it seems are very laid back , bastard is all instrumental electronica) all great imo but a long way from wire. gilbert and lewis have done a mountain of stuff , some of which is pretty uncommercial. maybe start with dome 1/2 and he said take care as an idea of where they're at. these are the more accessible records , i wouldn't plunge in on things like bruce solo albums or halo if you don't like these. ones to avoid ; "in esse" "8 time" "pre-he". one great recommendation would be the wir remix of erasure's "fingers & thumbs" , a classic. happy hunting.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 Author: MIME:robertjazz007@hotmail.com at INTERNET Date: 06/08/1999 15:01 Hello everyone, I have all the Wire releases proper as well as things like 'Behind the Curtain' and Colin's solo releases, but am completely at a loss when looking at all of the releases from the other members. Don't have any "He Said..." etc. This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list which releases I should start with?? In my travels I see used copies show up from time to time but would rather start with essentials first. thanks, - - Robert _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Forward item: - ---------------------------------- Forwarded ---------------------------------- From: Paul Rabjohn at ssab_droitwich_gb Date: 99/08/06 14:23 To: MIME:robertjazz007@hotmail.com at INTERNET Subject: Re[2]: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:50:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Robert Jazz wrote: > This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list > which releases I should start with? Colin Newman - A-Z Not To (usually packaged with The Singing Fish) Dome 1 and 4 (now packaged with 2 and 3, respectively) P'o - Whilst Climbing Thieves Vie For Attention He Said - Hail the first two are poppy, the second two are experimental, and the third two are creepy in an 80s-Wire kind of way. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:06:45 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@ssab.com Subject: Re[2]: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 aaron , do you prefer p'o to ac marias? i've never heard too many people on here select p'o as a real favourite whereas acm (who feature bruce and ac ) seem to crop up a lot more often. as an aside , i was flicking thru the discography in kevin's book and i noticed an otherwise unavailable acm track listed from some tape compilation. is this worth trying to locate? p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V2 #143 Author: MIME:aaron@eecs.harvard.edu at INTERNET Date: 06/08/1999 16:55 On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Robert Jazz wrote: > This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list > which releases I should start with? Colin Newman - A-Z Not To (usually packaged with The Singing Fish) Dome 1 and 4 (now packaged with 2 and 3, respectively) P'o - Whilst Climbing Thieves Vie For Attention He Said - Hail the first two are poppy, the second two are experimental, and the third two are creepy in an 80s-Wire kind of way. aaron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:47:46 PDT From: "ben hellmann" Subject: Re: NEW poll >What "rock" acts in the last 3 years do you fancy? Haven't bought much recent rock, just been filling in the gaps and checking out new sounds in the "other" category. But,for what it's worth: Sleater-Kinney, Make-Up, and Don Caballero don't bore me a bit. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 06 Aug 99 16:14:03 -0500 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: NEW poll Reply to: re: NEW poll I live in Minnesota, and I'll take Radiohead, Sheryl Crow and Grant Lee Buffalo. On 8/5/99, Obie Sanders wrote: Maybe we can revise this poll : What "rock" acts in the last 3 years do you fancy? Mine are fairly easy : Radiohead , Blur , Pulp (you would think I still live in the U.K.) ------------------------------ Date: 06 Aug 99 17:49:55 -0500 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: essentials first Reply to: re: essentials first Dome 1, 2, 3. He Said -- Hail. AC Marias -- Drop/So. P'o -- Whilst Climbing... Jack On 8/6/99, Robert Jazz wrote: I am completely at a loss when looking at all of the releases from the other members. Don't have any "He Said..." etc. This might sound like a basic question, but anyone want to short list which releases I should start with?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:55:00 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: More on the smoe.org outage More from Jeff, our smoe.org administrator on this weekend's outage... later, listowner Miles >As I mentioned before, smoe.org is moving to Northern Virgina >this weekend. > >At this point, the plan is to turn smoe.org off Saturday morning >and have it back up and running Sunday afternoon. If there are >problems, the downtime may extend into Monday (8/9). > >No mail will be lost during the move--all incoming mail will be >held at my ISP's backup mail host. When smoe.org is back on-line, >mail will be processed normally, although I'm sure there will a >huge backlog to wade thru....
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