From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #65 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, March 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- uncut [Craig Grannell ] Re[2]: Subway Sect help [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se] Re: uncut [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se] Re: uncut ["tube disaster" ] Re: uncut ["Jack Steinmann" ] Re[2]: uncut [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 05:52:48 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Grannell Subject: uncut Had a quick flick thru Uncut in 'Smiths. Mostly stuff you'd seen before (bar their in depth research failing to uncover the fact that Bruce and Colin aren't one and the same (a pic of Bruce is displayed on the bit saying "Colin talks about 154" or such-like)) However, one thing in there I didn't know - apparently Wire were approached by Factory Records shortly after they split from EMI but refused them. Now that *is* interesting!! == - ---------------------------- Craig Grannell-------------- www: SNUB.COMMUNICATIONS - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk Wireviews - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk/wirehome.html - ---------------------------- cngrannell@yahoo.com ------- "Creativity is the highest civilising faculty - Ben Okri" - --------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:53:59 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se Subject: Re[2]: Subway Sect help to add my thoughts , i'd really recommend making the effort as they were one of the key art-school punk bands. all their punk era stuff is on the "we oppose all rock n roll" compilation which must still be available and is a must-have. after that vic godard has made about half a dozen lp's in various styles , he turned into a bit of a crooner for a bit so be careful , a lot of it isn't at all punky. the first lp "what's the matter boy" is the best one , its the punk songs re-worked in a lighter style. it got re-issued on cd and i've seen it kicking around. if you need a laugh , listen to the mary chain attempt ambition on the b-side of "never understand".p >Hi all, > >I know this is not about Wire but a friend was telling about Subway Sect and I >know nothing about them. I know there are many knowledgable punk fans. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:11:16 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se Subject: Re: uncut However, one thing in there I didn't know - apparently Wire were approached by Factory Records shortly after they split from EMI but refused them. Now that *is* interesting!! indeed. and colin seems to say they wouldn't sign due to no money being on offer , it must have been about 2 days ago i said the funny thing about wire was they never talked about money! wire on factory would have been quite something as that was a label that seemed to let everyone do what the hell they wanted. so instead they went and signed up the stockholm monsters and crispy ambulance.ahem.p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:08:41 -0800 From: "tube disaster" Subject: Re: uncut >However, one thing in there I didn't know - apparently Wire were approached by Factory Records shortly after they split from EMI but refused them. Now that *is* interesting!! > > >indeed. and colin seems to say they wouldn't sign due to no money being on offer , it must have been about 2 days ago i said the funny thing about wire was they never talked about money! wire on factory would have been quite something as that was a label that seemed to let everyone do what the hell they wanted. so instead they went and signed up the stockholm monsters and crispy ambulance.ahem.p > Though I quite like the Crispys' pre-album 7" & 10". The Plateau Phase tracks are, though, a bit samey-sounding. Dan ------------------------------ Date: 18 Mar 99 10:29:13 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: Re: uncut Reply to: Re: uncut I thought Factory's whole problem was that they never signed anybody, sticking instead to "handshake" agreements. Having an accountant and a business manager helps to stay in business. On 3/18/99, paul.rabjohn wrote: wire on factory would have been quite something as that was a label that seemed to let everyone do what the hell they wanted. so instead they went and signed up the stockholm monsters and crispy ambulance.ahem ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:49:33 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se Subject: Re[2]: uncut a book i'd recommend is "the factory story" by mick middles , as well as a lot of good stuff on jd/no/mondays etc you get a good idea of what was going on business wise. i think they had accountants and managers , the problem was they just took wrong decisions and fucked it all up. you have to give them some credit for about 15 good years and some timeless music though.p ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: uncut Author: MIME:jsteinmann@clynch.com at INTERNET Date: 18/03/1999 17:32 Reply to: Re: uncut I thought Factory's whole problem was that they never signed anybody, = sticking instead to "handshake" agreements. Having an accountant and a = business manager helps to stay in business. On 3/18/99, paul.rabjohn wrote: wire on factory would have been quite something as that was a label that = seemed to let everyone do what the hell they wanted. so instead they went = and signed up the stockholm monsters and crispy ambulance.ahem ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #65 ******************************