From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V2 #23 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- blurred vision [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se] Re: Wir tours [Craig Grannell ] Re: blurred vision [Andrew N Westmeyer ] Wire / Erasure ["Wilson, Chad" ] Fingures in Crumms ["IBRAHIM BOZAI" ] Fwd: spigel newman colin malka ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Fingures in Crumms ["Steve Jackson" ] Re[2]: blurred vision [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:25:55 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se Subject: blurred vision you know the thought that the kilburn wir gig on uri's video was actually supporting blur makes me enjoy it even more. to think of those poor little kiddies gone for an evening of parklife getting 25 minutes of "naked whooping and such like" and "the first letter" is a splendid thought indeed. wish i'd been there. (and what were they doing with those buckets?) when reading kevins gigography i often wondered which of the gigs were support slots , i seem to vaguely recall wire supporting both blur and (god help us) erasure. wire + erasure must have been some gig.......... also they did a european tour with roxy music in 79. were any other support tours done? just curious. whoo and indeed hoo. paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:16:35 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Grannell Subject: Re: Wir tours - ---paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se wrote: > > you know the thought that the kilburn wir gig on uri's video was actually supporting blur makes me enjoy it even more. to think of those poor little kiddies gone for an evening of parklife getting 25 minutes of "naked whooping and such like" and "the first letter" is a splendid thought indeed. The crowd split into two: hardline front people moshing to Wir and teenies V-signing (note to non-Brits - not the good V-sign!!) the band. Mind you, I always thought Blur could've been great. Some tracks on their albums are wonderful but unfortunately far too many tracks are "oi" / filler / commercial rubbish. A shame. > > when reading kevins gigography i often wondered which of the gigs were support slots , i seem to vaguely recall wire supporting both blur and (god help us) erasure. Apparenly Wir were set to tour with Erasure but the end of the Mute contract and therefore Wir's effective end put paid to that plan. Thankfully. C. == - ---------------------------- Craig Grannell-------------- www: SNUB.COMMUNICATIONS - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk Wireviews - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk/wirehome.html - ---------------------------- cngrannell@yahoo.com ------- "Creativity is the highest civilising faculty - Ben Okri" - --------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:18:51 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew N Westmeyer Subject: Re: blurred vision Excerpts from mail: 28-Jan-99 blurred vision by paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ss > when reading kevins gigography i often wondered which of the > gigs were support slots , i seem to vaguely recall wire supporting > both blur and (god help us) erasure. wire + erasure must have been > some gig.......... Back in 89 or 90, the Cleveland Plain Dealer (newspaper) announced that Wire was opening for Erasure on their "Wild!" tour. I didn't go because at that time I was in a "drummer is good, drum machine is bad" phase. (My how things change!) Later on (at a NIN show, of all places) I met someone who had been at that show and she said that Wire did not open. Kevin's gigography says the same thing. So I'm fairly sure that Wire didn't open for Erasure, at least in the US. Has anyone else heard that Wir remix of Erasure's "Fingers And Thumbs"? I thought it was kind of boring. (A)ndrew Westmeyer qwerty@cmu.edu www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty "Haven't you heard? Sometimes flying saucers don't make a noise of any kind." -Ed Wood ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:43:17 -0800 From: "Wilson, Chad" Subject: Wire / Erasure I know they were supposed to open up for Erasure in Sacramento (It was like June 1990) and we showed up and Wire was not there. We were in a complete panic to sell our tickets as there was no way we were sticking around for erasure. :-) Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: "IBRAHIM BOZAI" Subject: Fingures in Crumms On Jan 28, 11:18am, Andrew N Westmeyer wrote: > Subject: Re: blurred vision > Excerpts from mail: 28-Jan-99 blurred vision by paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ss > > when reading kevins gigography i often wondered which of the > > gigs were support slots , i seem to vaguely recall wire supporting > > both blur and (god help us) erasure. wire + erasure must have been > > some gig.......... > > Back in 89 or 90, the Cleveland Plain Dealer (newspaper) announced that > Wire was opening for Erasure on their "Wild!" tour. I didn't go because > at that time I was in a "drummer is good, drum machine is bad" phase. > (My how things change!) Later on (at a NIN show, of all places) I met > someone who had been at that show and she said that Wire did not open. > Kevin's gigography says the same thing. So I'm fairly sure that Wire > didn't open for Erasure, at least in the US. > > Has anyone else heard that Wir remix of Erasure's "Fingers And Thumbs"? > I thought it was kind of boring. > I got it soon after it came out and I think it's just lovely. Almost a longer and more melancholy Kidney Bingos. Quite pretty - or sucky depending on your taste for "prettiness". Very useful for DJing or collage activities. The original version grew on me about a year later. Blur. (finger in throat) > (A)ndrew Westmeyer > qwerty@cmu.edu > www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty > > "Haven't you heard? Sometimes flying saucers don't make a noise > of any kind." -Ed Wood >-- End of excerpt from Andrew N Westmeyer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:59:47 -0000 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Fwd: spigel newman colin malka This is a multi-part message in MIME format. You need a MIME compliant mail reader to completely decode it. - --=_-=_-CAOOEDAPNEPHAAAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 2110 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you who may not have seen this... later, listowner Miles - --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:39:41 From: Swim HQ ~ To: Swim HQ swim~ PO Box 3459 London SW19 6ES spigel • newman • colin • malka LIVE CUSWM1 (avaliable Feb ‘99) 1. Water Walker (revisited) 2. Long One 3. Humans 4. I’m Spaced (In) 5. I Just Want (spinning guitars version) 6. Tethnic ‘99 7. Dreamwalking 8. It’s Odd (reconfigured) 9. Strumgliding (ultimate version) 10. Encore Colin & Malka’s European gigs in Autum ‘98 were the first time the pair had toured together since 1988’s “It Seems” tour. Although no recordings were made of the actual gigs it was felt that this “live set” versions represented such a stylistic departure* from the recorded versions of the included material that a record should be made before the material is revised for further appearances. Thus this “live” album was born. As such it is a faithful rendition of the material as performed live but with the added bonus of studio mixes. To further enhance the uniqueness of this item it was decided that the CD should be made avaliable only in the form of custom CD burns made to order at Swim-HQ. This album will not be commercially released. The cost will be £20.00 ($34.00) payable by UK cheque, US cheque, Eurocheque, Postal Order, IMO, Bankers Draft. (please make $ cheques out to “M. Newman”) *amongst countless other things all the tracks feature live guitars and Colin actually sings!! - --------- End Forwarded Message --------- Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com - --=_-=_-CAOOEDAPNEPHAAAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --=_-=_-CAOOEDAPNEPHAAAA-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:40:40 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Fingures in Crumms At 02:37 PM 1/28/99 -0500, IBRAHIM BOZAI wrote: >Blur. (finger in throat) It seems to be left to me to defend Blur, so I shall. Aside from stretches of their first (Manchester baggy-pants hoo-ha) and latest (noisy experimentation with mixed results), I'd put their catalog up against any other '90s band. MODERN LIFE IS RUBBISH, PARKLIFE, and THE GREAT ESCAPE pretty much pick up where the Kinks, the Jam, and XTC left off. Damon Albarn's satires of commercialism, upper-class ennui, and other ills of modern Britain lack the compassion of Ray Davies' best work, but most of the time he's tuneful and on target. I'm sure the audience attracted by Blur's singles might not appreciate Wir(e), but that's hardly a defect confined to Blur fans. :-) later, listowner Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:16:53 -0000 From: "Steve Jackson" Subject: Re: Fingures in Crumms >and XTC left off. Left off......new XTC album next month..... :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens To: idealcopy@smoe.org Cc: dcarlson@ucla.edu Date: 29 January 1999 06:45 Subject: Re: Fingures in Crumms >At 02:37 PM 1/28/99 -0500, IBRAHIM BOZAI wrote: >>Blur. (finger in throat) > >It seems to be left to me to defend Blur, so I shall. Aside from stretches >of their first (Manchester baggy-pants hoo-ha) and latest (noisy >experimentation with mixed results), I'd put their catalog up against any >other '90s band. MODERN LIFE IS RUBBISH, PARKLIFE, and THE GREAT ESCAPE >pretty much pick up where the Kinks, the Jam, Damon >Albarn's satires of commercialism, upper-class ennui, and other ills of >modern Britain lack the compassion of Ray Davies' best work, but most of >the time he's tuneful and on target. I'm sure the audience attracted by >Blur's singles might not appreciate Wir(e), but that's hardly a defect >confined to Blur fans. :-) > >later, > >listowner Miles > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 9:46:45 +0100 From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se Subject: Re[2]: blurred vision Has anyone else heard that Wir remix of Erasure's "Fingers And Thumbs"? I thought it was kind of boring. actually i quite like it , i think they did wonders with the "source material" in that instance. i think it flows quite nicely and i was glad i got hold of it. definitely the one and only erasure cd in my collection! ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V2 #23 ******************************