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idealcopy-digest       Monday, January 18 1999       Volume 02 : Number 017



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: big black                                [Uri Baran <uri.b@virgin.net>]
  natures mortes                              [paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se]
  Re: natures mortes            ["tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>]

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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 11:17:08 -0800
From: Uri Baran <uri.b@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: big black

Steve Jackson wrote:
> 
> . I know this is all
> >> subjective but it is difficult to isolate a late period Wire/Wir song
> >> that to use a horrible US phrase 'kicks ass' the way that the guitar
> >> oriented variants did.
> >>
> >
> >Subjective notions aside, maybe it wasn't in Wir(e)'s agenda to become a
> "kick
> >ass" rock band.
> 
> Aye, maybe 'kiss ass (arse)' isn't the best phrase, but thinking about this,
> I was surprised to realise that I consider a middle period song to be their
> most powerful, namely "An Advantage in Height"...a song that never fails to
> make me feel 10ft tall, and was very useful when I came to buy new hi-fi.
> The bassline is absolutely fantastic, as is that guitar that goes
> "ner-ner-ner-ner-ner-ner-ner   <pause> ner-ner-ner-ner-ner-ner-ner"
> 
> Musical eloquence is not my forte....I'm a drummer......but you know what I
> mean...that song is so *tense*
> 
> Steve.


Agreed, maybe it wasn't on their agenda but they were very good at it in
the late 70's and mid-80's
I particularly like 'Advantage in Height',as you say, great bassline.
That song seemed to emerge
in late '85 and the live version was somewhat different to the recorded
version in that the vocals
were much more 'strained' and  erratic. Great version on the 'Harp Club'
gig - I know 'cos I taped it.

 Uri

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:12:47 +0100
From: paul.rabjohn@tunnplat.ssab.se
Subject: natures mortes

about a month after i ordered it i finally got hold of a 4ad compilation from 1980 they've re-issued on cd called "natures mortes - still lives". main reason i bought it was it contains both sides of the dome-produced the the single "black & white/controversial subject" , which i'd never got to hear. the first 2 the the singles go for £10/12 when i've seen them , which is more than i've ever been prepared to pay. anyway , both tracks are very good and worth having , far more like dome than the later more commercial the the stuff (which i admit i quite liked).

the cd also contains "like this for ages" by cupol and some real old classics by bauhaus , rema rema and the birthday party. also the usual roll call of 1980 4ad acts nobody ever got to hear (dif juz , in camera ,mass , sort sol etc). a nice compilation for wire completists and good in itself for a bit of nostalgia. i'd never seen it listed on discographies until now.

oh , by the way , i notice colins a-z and singing fish/not to cd's both still orderable from beggars/4ad ; havn't seen these in the shops for ages. paul

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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:42:23 -0800
From: "tube disaster" <dpbailey@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: natures mortes

>>about a month after i ordered it i finally got hold of a 4ad compilation
from 1980 they've re-issued on cd called "natures mortes - still lives".
main reason i bought it was it contains both sides of the dome-produced the
the single "black & white/controversial subject" , which i'd never got to
hear. the first 2 the the singles go for £10/12 when i've seen them , which
is more than i've ever been prepared to pay. anyway , both tracks are very
good and worth having , far more like dome than the later more commercial
the the stuff (which i admit i quite liked).

the cd also contains "like this for ages" by cupol and some real old
classics by bauhaus , rema rema and the birthday party. also the usual roll
call of 1980 4ad acts nobody ever got to hear (dif juz , in camera ,mass ,
sort sol etc). a nice compilation for wire completists and good in itself
for a bit of nostalgia. i'd never seen it listed on discographies until now.

oh , by the way , i notice colins a-z and singing fish/not to cd's both
still orderable from beggars/4ad ; havn't seen these in the shops for ages.
paul<<

All very nice, but more importantly, has the Presage(s) comp been reissued
yet? I'm sick & tired of having Spasmodic Caress' Hit the Dead, C.V.O.'s
Sargasso Sea & the Psychotik Tanks' cover of Let's Have a Party only on
2nd-generation cassette ...

And "1980 4ad acts nobody ever got to hear"? Dif Juz, In Camera, Mass & Sort
Sol are all on *my* shelves, thanks to some good luck in the used shops back
in the day. Ditto for Rema Rema.

Dan

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