From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #183 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 183 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: So what Wire albums DO you play? [flaherty michael w ] RE:Re: So what Wire albums DO you play? [BillyD ] Re: two quickies. [Craig Grannell ] re: Re: two quickies. ["Jack Steinmann" ] Re: dugga done hid [Andrew N Westmeyer ] gilbertpossstuff ["IBRAHIM BOZAI" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:53:06 -0600 (CST) From: flaherty michael w Subject: Re: So what Wire albums DO you play? On Sun, 13 Dec 1998, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Chester Ward wrote: > > > Wow. This forum lately seems to be nothing a discussion of which Wire > > albums people DON'T play. So far, seemingly everything but A Bell Is A > > Cup and Ideal Copy have been thoroughly dismissed as non-essential and > > fluffy. I think a Bell is their most "Fluffy" album. There. > > well, every album has SOME people who don't like it. that doesn't mean > there's as much as a single person on the list who only likes one Wire > record. Also, if being a "fan" means unconditional love of everything the performer/artist does, then I'm not a fan of anyone. We should also remeber that some of us have already praised our favorites on the list several times this year. What you don't like is simply a new topic--one that revised a list that was in danger of dying. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:12:45 -0800 (PST) From: BillyD Subject: Manscape Could someone please send me the original track line up for 'Manscape'? Thank you Cheers, Billy == /\/\/\ [ X X ] .. ---- -Hola! (R) SOT Ltd. New York, London, Paris, Munich http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:11:43 -0800 (PST) From: BillyD Subject: RE:Re: So what Wire albums DO you play? I've been listening to 'The Drill' and 'It Seems'... Because I Like Them! Cheers, Billy p.s. I like all the Wire albums. == /\/\/\ [ X X ] .. ---- -Hola! (R) SOT Ltd. New York, London, Paris, Munich http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:32:06 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Grannell Subject: Re: two quickies. - ---BillyD wrote: > Could someone please send me the original track line up for 'Manscape'? *Life in the manscape *Stampede Patterns of Behaviour Other Moments Small Black Reptile Torch It Morning Bell Where's the Deputation? What do you See? Goodbye Ploy Sixth Sense *Children of Groceries *You Hung your Lights in the Trees / A Craftsman's Touch *only on CD / tape version Of course, Andrew's Wire page does have the complete listings for all the LPs ... - ---Aaron Mandel wrote: > > And the only Newman solo that hasn't been given the big stamp> > of disapproval is Bastard. > > if that is in fact true, let me correct it: i thought Bastard was a waste> of time for everyone involved. Why?? == - ---------------------------- Craig Grannell-------------- www: SNUB.COMMUNICATIONS - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk Wireviews - http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk/wirehome.html - ---------------------------- cngrannell@yahoo.com ------- "Creativity is the highest civilising faculty - Ben Okri" - --------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Dec 98 13:15:04 -0600 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Re: two quickies. Reply to: re: Re: two quickies. Below is the LP sequencing of Manscape. The LP "hangs together" much better than does the CD. (And it does include You Hung Your Lights in the Trees.) Patterns Of Behaviour Goodbye Ploy Morning Bell Small Black Reptile Torch It Other Moments Sixth Sense What Do You See? (Welcome) Where's The Deputation? You Hung Your Lights In The Trees / A Craftsman's Touch Jack On 12/14/98, Craig Grannell wrote: - ---BillyD wrote: > Could someone please send me the original track line up for 'Manscape'? *Life in the manscape *Stampede Patterns of Behaviour Other Moments Small Black Reptile Torch It Morning Bell Where's the Deputation? What do you See? Goodbye Ploy Sixth Sense *Children of Groceries *You Hung your Lights in the Trees / A Craftsman's Touch *only on CD / tape version Of course, Andrew's Wire page does have the complete listings for all the LPs ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:08:34 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew N Westmeyer Subject: Re: dugga done hid Excerpts from mail: 13-Dec-98 Re: dugga done hid by Craig Grannell@yahoo.com > More like Band of Susans meets Apple Mac voice synth or S. Hawking ... > :) > > Very wry. Actually, I think it's one of the best things BoS has done! Most of their other stuff makes me think of late 70's rock ballads. I'm not sure why. Although I found a Robert Poss solo album (called "Sometimes" - - it cost me 50 cents!) that was OK. I'm not sure why/how they ended up opening for Wire. It seems like an odd mix. Or maybe that is the reason? Has anybody heard that Gilbertpossstenger thing? I'm not even sure what it is/was. (A)ndrew Westmeyer qwerty@cmu.edu www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty "What a blessing that so much of humanity is able to be alive at the same time as myself." -Cecil Adams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:10:33 -0500 (EST) From: "IBRAHIM BOZAI" Subject: gilbertpossstuff On Dec 14, 3:08pm, Andrew N Westmeyer wrote: > Subject: Re: dugga done hid > Excerpts from mail: 13-Dec-98 Re: dugga done hid by Craig Grannell@yahoo.com > > More like Band of Susans meets Apple Mac voice synth or S. Hawking ... > > :) > > > > Very wry. > > Actually, I think it's one of the best things BoS has done! Most of > their other stuff makes me think of late 70's rock ballads. I'm not > sure why. Although I found a Robert Poss solo album (called "Sometimes" > - it cost me 50 cents!) that was OK. > > I'm not sure why/how they ended up opening for Wire. It seems like an > odd mix. Or maybe that is the reason? > Of course the point of any opening act is to make the headliners sound really good. Usually this is achieved by choosing an opening act that explores extremes deemed unsuitable by fans of the main act. BOS= big muddy guitar wall of sound/noise Wire= clean economical guitar pop with judicious use of effects > Has anybody heard that Gilbertpossstenger thing? I'm not even sure what > it is/was. > Wasn't that BOS at club Disobey with Bruce on (slide?) guitar? Check the newsletter archives for more accurate info. > (A)ndrew Westmeyer > qwerty@cmu.edu > www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty > > "What a blessing that so much of humanity is able to > be alive at the same time as myself." -Cecil Adams >-- End of excerpt from Andrew N Westmeyer ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #183 *******************************