From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #151 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, October 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 151 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: idealcopy-digest V1 #150 ["charles / wmo" ] Re: idealcopy-digest V1 #150 [Craig Grannell ] Re: Michael O'Shea ["Mack" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:23:17 -0800 From: "charles / wmo" Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V1 #150 >>So, anyone heard P'o or DDD yet?? Can't find 'em over on this side o' the UK customers take note! Cargo Records has both titles in their warehouse. And dare I say before the US distributor! >P'o is wonderful as the vinyl and the version of 'Only One I' is worth the >price of admission for archivists, as is the photo Charles enclosed. >Still waiting for Michael O'Shea (Charles ? :) Many thanks on the compliments. Since this thread is talking about "definitives", please note that "Blind Tim" is the "definitive" P'o track! As for Michael O'Shea, it is planned for release with the Dome CD in the Second Quarter 1999. But I will say this - There is very little call for the Michael O'Shea in record stores, even with a "FILE UNDER WIRE" sticker all over it. So this leaves us recouping our expenses from Mail Order only. Considering the less than stellar pre-orders for P'o and Dugga, I'll be very cautious about commiting funds to the reissue. Dome, on the other hand, will be welcomed by retailers for its name recognition. ( I hope none of the above is cryptic for any of the readers!) >DuggaDuggaDugga is an interesting listen - I have always marvelled that one >of my least favorite tunes from the later period of Wire could be so strong >as to have an entire album devoted to it - and now ... another. >That said, the first Drill album proved that the possibilities were broad, >and the cover album does little to expand the concept. >The material is almost uniformly electro (which makes the Mark Gage >transitions very fitting) . I kind of wish there had been a tad more >variety in the approaches. That said, my favorites are the Chris and Cosey >and League of Green Men takes and of course the Ex-Lion Tamers. Well, you've just chosen the three most "conforming to the original" tracks on the CD! It is a very "techno/electro" album, which is very much what the 1000 label will be like. But by way of story, there were several other "Drills" that where submitted and which Mark segued together. Oddly enough they were all, shall we say "indie guitar based" versions. I'll personally take credit and blame for axing them from the final cut - I'd much rather have a concise hour of drills that have some conceptual and thematic unity than dredge through 75 minutes of mayhem. I can tell you this - it made for a very difficult, tiring and most importantly non rewarding listen - not because any of the tracks were "not good", but simply because it didn't flow. Whore was about names, and piling it on. Dugga had to be more concise lest we face the ire of both reviewer and listener. The fact that it turned out "electronic" - that's one for the list! Now, don't you all want to order a copy?!?! charles/wmo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:06:55 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Grannell Subject: Re: idealcopy-digest V1 #150 Charles WMO wrote:> > As for Michael O'Shea, it is planned for release with the Dome CD in the> Second Quarter 1999. But I will say this - There is very little call for the > Michael O'Shea in record stores What a shame it is these days when music has to have a name for something to sell. It can just be -good-. It's so unavoidable too - most people I know won't listen to anything out of the UK Top 40 (one of my mates commented on how I listened to 'weird shit' after hearing some tracks in my car (Stillbird, Radioactivity (Kraftwerk), Rosh B(Malka) - not exactly far out tracks! I really hope the O'Shea LP gets a reissue. I'm glad I'll finally get to hear P'o though so at least that's something. A pretty big something too! Keep up the good work Charles and all others at WMO! C. == - ---------------------------- Craig Grannell-------------- Visit SNUB.COMMUNICATIONS at http://www.snub.dircon.co.uk Music, art, and the dancing tree. - ---------------------------- cngrannell@yahoo.com ------- "Creativity is the highest civilising faculty - Ben Okri" - --------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:50:50 -0600 From: "Mack" Subject: Re: Michael O'Shea I for one will make my voice heard at Reckless Records here in Chicago. They actually manage to sell a fair amount of stuff by staff recomendations and in-store play. Let's try to get Charles some grassroots support for this worthy project. As an aside, Charles, maybe you could market this as new age ;) Realizing, of course, that the appeal for this item was marginal at best even in it's original release. Still - I really would like to own this record again. I sold my vinyl many years ago in a fit of poverty and have not been able to refind it for some time now. >> As for Michael O'Shea, it is planned for release with the Dome CD in >the> Second Quarter 1999. But I will say this - There is very little >call for the Michael O'Shea in record stores ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #151 *******************************