From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #109 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, August 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Wire album sold the most copies? ["charles / wmo" ] Re: Wire album sold the most copies? ["Mack" ] RE: Wire album sold the most copies? [flaherty michael w Subject: RE: Wire album sold the most copies? Hands down, The Ideal Copy sold the most, then in declining order the rest of the 80's output. I think the numbers on Pink Flag and 154 were somewhere around 5000 copies, by the mid 80's. These are US numbers btw. In the UK, no idea on the first three - Wire claim they never got royalty statements from EMI, if you can beleive that!!! I think the Mute stuff sold similar to the US. The Ideal Copy has supposedly sold 25,000 world-wide? The Short Order is that if Wire were any kind of success commercially, you would see a lot more of their "product" (i.e. Buzzcocks). And, suffice to say, they may still be at it. When we started WMO, we knew that Wire fans were the type to "have" everything. But what has made the label incredibly difficult is that there are, or seem to be, very very few fans who want to "have" everything! I can not stress how important it is to support Wire Mail Order. Case in point - we had only one release in 1997, and with any luck we will have something in 1998. This is purely because we are a "self-financed" organization. When CD's don't sell or sell slowy, then we don't have the money to get things out (i.e. P'o). This is not meant to be idle whining, only to enlighten you on the realities of the so-called Music Industry! Morale of the story - Please support WMO, Swim, Origin, etc... either in your local independent record shop (not chains!) or preferably direct through Wire Mail Order. We love you too! charles/wmo - -------------------------------------------- wmo@interserv.com http://wiremailorder.com/ catalog@wiremailorder.com updated: June 29, 1998 - -------------------------------------------- ***new mailing address*** Wire Mail Order PO Box 29133 Los Angeles, CA 90029-0133 - -------------------------------------------- > >>Which Wire album sold the most copies? > >I'm going to shoot for either ABIACUIIS or IBTABA, especially since >IBTABA was number one on MTV's college radio charts for several weeks and >had two of their biggest "hit" singles. > >Eric >auteur@ix.netcom.com > >------------------------------ > >End of idealcopy-digest V1 #108 >******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:05:42 -0500 From: "Mack" Subject: Re: Wire album sold the most copies? several salient points are raised here first - the seemingly low sales figures are (in my opinion - and pased on personal experience) the result of a combination of neglect and dishonest reporting in the industry as well as a general lack of sophistication (and possibly taste) in the population at large. i don't want to start another volley of posts about how the industry dictates taste - i personally think they just ignore it - you are entitled to ypur own opinion >I can not stress how important it is to support Wire Mail Order. >When CD's don't sell or sell slowy, then we don't have the money to get things out (i.e. P'o). i've waited ages for this - and Michael O'Shea >Morale of the story - Please support WMO, Swim, Origin, etc... either in >your local independent record shop (not chains!) or preferably direct >through Wire Mail Order. Please - all of you - tell your friends - do this Generally - ordering direct from small independents is even cheaper - and they get ALL the $ (and immediately) Buying a small independent release @ Tower for instance - does next to nothing fo an artist who sells less than 100,000 and at that they have to wait years - by which time they have given up >We love you too! thanks to YOU charles for keeping at this labour of love ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:16:33 -0500 (CDT) From: flaherty michael w Subject: RE: Wire album sold the most copies? On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, charles / wmo wrote: > Morale of the story - Please support WMO, Swim, Origin, etc... either in > your local independent record shop (not chains!) or preferably direct > through Wire Mail Order. I've made this plea before, but I'm happy to make it again: if you are going to buy something WMO carries, buy it from WMO, even if your favorite dealer carries it. Why? Because some day you might decide you want to add some more rare side projects etc. to your collection, and if WMO is gone--well, then good luck finding it. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 98 15:41:03 -0500 From: "Jack Steinmann" Subject: re: Manscape (Sequencing isn't just a MIDI thing) Reply to: re: Manscape (Sequencing isn't just a MIDI thing) I don't know about the U.S. Engima edition of Manscape, BUT... I do have the Mute box CD and the Mute LP. The LP has ten tracks in the "original" sequence. The CD has 13 tracks -- on one CD -- in the inferior sequence; I've never heard of a 3-track bonus Mute CD for Manscape. (I program my CD player to follow the order of the LP, my copy of which has recently been broken cleanly in two... life in a childscape.) Jack Steinmann On 7/28/98, Eric Scott wrote: I would like to encourage those who bought the U.S. copy of "Manscape" (on Enigma, rather than the UK vers. on Mute) to allow themselves to hear the tracks in their 'original' (UK) sequence, which in my opinion, builds more effectively, offers a better dynamic, etc... Apparently, Enigma didn't seem to feel this way. [SNIP] (optionally, one might add the 'bonus' tracks at the end...they were not in the original Manscape sequence, but on a bonus CD packaged with the UK release...) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #109 *******************************