From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #72 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, July 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 072 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Elitism/A-Z/Gender [Billy D ] Re: Wire fans into music [Amanda ] Re: Wire fans into music [] Re: Wire Reforms? [wmo ny ] Re: Wire Reforms? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 01:30:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Billy D Subject: Re: Elitism/A-Z/Gender I find Spice Girls quite enjoyable. I'm 33 and I bought their cds. I remember a few years back when a band called Frankie Goes To Hollywood also stirred up a few waves... Cheers, BillyD - ---auteur@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > >.Wire fans regard themselves as morally superior to Spice Girls devotees. > >but i like the spice girls - they are rather a hoot and more listenable than > >9/10s of > >what passes for 'sincere' pop music > > I must say that although I don't listen to their music, I actually find > them unbelievably enjoyable in interviews and would love to have a drink > with them sometime (preferrably Scary Spice, though my wife might have > something to say about that!) > > > Um...girl power..or something of that ilk. > > Cheers! > > Eric > auteur@ix.netcom.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:55:42 -0500 (EST) From: Amanda Subject: Re: Wire fans into music > I had the honor of seeing the Press in concert opening up for (all of > people) the Charlatans UK. Needless to say, they were fantastic! I love TWP -- well, Queer and everything before. They also opened for the Charlatans UK in Boston, and, again, they were fabulous. We left after one Charlatans song, though. Does anyone know if Burden of Mules was ever released on cd? I found a vinyl copy, but it's not in the greatest condition. Amanda - -- aschi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu aki@retina.net :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=: The avant-garde always ends up at WalMart sooner or later. -- A. Codrescu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 98 11:43:15 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Wire fans into music >Does anyone know if Burden of Mules was ever released on cd? I found >a vinyl copy, but it's not in the greatest condition. To my knowledge , this is only available on vinyl. I've checked various 4AD sites that mention nothing of a CD reissue. Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 00:09:14 -0400 From: wmo ny Subject: Re: Wire Reforms? > >I'd like to see them perform together, as long as they didn't play a > >"greatest hits" package which would be a blow to integrity and a big step > >backwards. > >not likely - thy could have done this already and COMPLETELY ignored the > >possibility I think it may be worth explaining the complications of why Wire will more than likely not reform. To expand upon Andrew's post... In my personal conversations with them over the past year, I don't think it is impossible for Wire to reform. They all still have that affinity for each other, whatever you may read. Certainly, there is some dirty laundry that needs cleaning between the members - without getting into too much detail as you never know who's reading this! But assuming they'd get over that, it really is then a financial matter. The Mute contract expired shortly after the First Letter. To that end, they'd need a label to cough up say $100k to pay for the next record. And I will reiterate that Wire NEVER sold a lot of records. Never... But assuming someone would pay for it... Wir/Wire have been up front in saying that whereas they'd be more than happy to enter a studio if the possibility arose, they could give no guarantee that they'd leave the studio with a finished record... they'd want released. Let's remember that Wire still get a lot of shit in certain circles for reforming 85-91, but to reform yet Again, there's the distinct possibility that their output could jepordize their entire past... and thus presents and futures. It could really suck folks!!! Think about that... But what would they ACTUALLY do? Colin would start with a pop record with breakbeats that's secretly 'reinvented rock', Graham would then rearrange it and "sing" over everything, Bruce would then put it through his Shed, and Robert.... Robert plays a full drum kit now. Get the picture? charles/wmo (on vacation in beautiful upstate NY) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:19:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Wire Reforms? On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, wmo ny wrote: > But what would they ACTUALLY do? > Colin would start with a pop record with breakbeats that's secretly 'reinvented > rock', Graham would then rearrange it and "sing" over everything, Bruce would > then put it through his Shed, and Robert.... Robert plays a full drum kit now. > Get the picture? Sounds like chaos -which I'm gathering might be your point. But that might be *exactly* the point. Assuming the $ difficulties could be overcome, it might be a *very* interesting way to proceed: every piece might be originated by one member, and passed to another in turn, with the order (including, of course, origination) varying - with the agreed-upon stipulation that "Wire" for this album *means* not a collaboration, but a process. Once the piece is run through the process, it's done - even if Originator thinks it sucks, if Wire B's contributions are wholly erased by Wire C, etc. If the album were divided approximately in four, I think it'd be a rather interesting musical experiment - even though it certainly wouldn't be cohesive! To me, at least, there's something "Wire" about my proposal - who knows? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n Department of English http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee ::I suspect that the first dictator of this country will be called "Coach":: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::William Gass:: ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #72 ******************************