From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #65 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, June 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Which Wir(e) [Natsuko SANO ] Re: Which Wir(e) [] Re: Wire appropriators/facsimilies? [Craig Grannell ] RE: Which Wir(e) [#rciscon ] Re: Which Wir(e) [Billy D ] Parade Ground ["Mack" ] Fwd: Re: Which Wir(e) [Miles Goosens ] contratulations, subscriber #100 [Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Which Wir(e) > 1: Original - '76-80 > 2: Reform - 85-90 > 3: Wir - 90-93 > 4: Gilbert & Lewis > 5: Newman > 6: Gilbert > 7: Lewis I'd like to say all the above..in fact 1,2,3,5. Because I haven't found any of Gilbert/ Lewis related stuff in Nagoya, Japan where I live. What a shame! Natsuko, who is already 29. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 09:56:54 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Which Wir(e) Perhaps I'll just throw in my favorite pieces (as of today) from each entry... (!) means "whoa!" emphatically. >1: Original - '76-80 Reuters, Marooned, Go Ahead, A Touching Display(!), Map Ref, Midnight Bahnhof Cafe, 2nd Length(!) >2: Reform - 85-90 Serious of Snakes, Drill, Pieta(!), Finest Drops (IBTABA)(!) >3: Wir - 90-93 Jumping Mint, Take It (For Greedy)[especially LFO mix!], Footsi-Footsi, Sexy and Rich (Janet) >4: Gilbert & Lewis Long Lost Life, To Speak, Kluba Kupol(!), Anchors, Red Tent, Madmen >5: Newman But No(!), Truculent Yet, Their Terrain, An Impressive Beginning, Turn(!), Output, all Immersion(!) >6: Gilbert Bloodlines, Slow No (The), Quad >7: Lewis Flagwearing, Solid or Vanish, Smart Material Love (Waves)(!), Eclipsed, Fresh Life These will all probably change tomorrow! Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:33:54 +0100 From: Craig Grannell Subject: Re: Wire appropriators/facsimilies? > Another post from Steve Jackson : > > ----------------------- > > What about Menswear? Colin Newman or what? > > Or Elastica- They had to pay Wire royalties for ripping off "Three Girl > Rhumba" on "Connection" and "Line Up" sounds like "I am the Fly" and > there's another of theirs that sounds like "Being Sucked in Again" > Elastica did indeed get sued and the fact they have yet to follow up their very average debut seems to indicate that without external "influences" :) they struggle to survive. (Those I know who saw them live said Waking Up and Connection are still their only good songs; I politely reminded these people that these are, in fact, cover versions of No More Heroes and Three Girl Rhumba. They were not happy). Also, they seem so excited that they now have Bush (ex-fall) in their group. Mind you, I reckon nearly everyone in the UK must live next door to someone who was once in the Fall. As for Menswear they are _not_ actually a Wire rip-off band. Their excuse is even more sad - they want to be Elastica(!) - so a watered down version of a watered down version of Wire!! Oh well, on and on. C - --- Craig Grannell c.n.grannell@uwic.ac.uk cngrannell@yahoo.com soon: http:geocities.com/SoHo/Square/9822 For SNUB LP/Art/CD-ROMs/Dancing Trees ... - --- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:55:52 -0700 From: "charles / wmo" Subject: Subject: Dugga, Dugga, Dugga. > >I've only been on the list for about three weeks and was curious to the >progress of the Dugga, Dugga, Dugga compilation. I heard that a summer >release was planned and since summer began last Sunday I am curious of >whethr its arrival will be soon. Here's some big news folks - release dates! P'o - October 6th Dugga Dugga Dugga - October 20th There are Real Audio clips on the web site. Newsletter 2.4 is imminent - as soon as I figure out how to set up Windows Messaging in Windows 98! charles - -------------------------------------------- wmo@interserv.com http://wiremailorder.com/ catalog@wiremailorder.com updated: April 07, 1998 - -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 11:17:31 -0500 From: #rciscon Subject: RE: Which Wir(e) >I have over 500 cd's and I like them all. Lorries is the undisputed best >song in my collection of songs. Chalk Lorries up as one of the reasons one >should never write off guitar based pop, every story has not been told. > >Chad (one of the 16 leaky boats...) Chad, I can listen to 'Lorries' over and over again! I think that a instrumental version of this song would make a great theme song for a TV show.... at least that's what runs through my addled mind! Ray Ciscon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Billy D Subject: Re: Which Wir(e) I would have to vote for all. I'm 33 and I've enjoyed watching them all grow musically. Cheers, BillyD - ---ubaran@iclretail.icl.com wrote: > > A quick poll to try to determine which variant of Wire + members is the > main reason that people have the interest. There seems to be 7 variants: > > 1: Original - '76-80 > 2: Reform - 85-90 > 3: Wir - 90-93 > 4: Gilbert & Lewis > 5: Newman > 6: Gilbert > 7: Lewis > > My vote is for 1 and I'm 34 (I reckon age is an important influence on > the above). > > > Uri > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:31:20 -0500 From: "Mack" Subject: Parade Ground a quote from colin in response to my inquiry about Parade Ground >The Parade Ground thing is quite wierd. I did it as a favour for some >friends in Brussels. I can't say I remember it as being that great! I'm not >sure everything appeared on one disc but there's one track called "The >Chosen One" which I remember as being a bit better than some of the others. >Jean-Marc & Pierre also did a lot of work on one or two Front 242 albums. ... >Incidentally Gilles Martin who we all worked with extensively during the >"Brussels Period" has recently been getting attention as the producer of >Autour De Lucie an engaging French Pop/electronic project which has been >getting some nice attention here. > >Talking obscurities did you ever hear the Sonoko album? Some of it is quite >good.. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:58:21 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Fwd: Re: Which Wir(e) Another bounce, this one from Mats . Personal replies to that address, not mine... >>A quick poll to try to determine which variant of Wire + members is the >>main reason that people have the interest. There seems to be 7 variants: >> >>1: Original - '76-80 >>2: Reform - 85-90 >>3: Wir - 90-93 >>4: Gilbert & Lewis >>5: Newman >>6: Gilbert >>7: Lewis >> >>My vote is for 1 and I'm 34 (I reckon age is an important influence on >>the above). >Probably. >1. and Im 36. The three first album is really something special to me. The >first cover my first band played was Three Girl Rhumba. But my favourite is >154 - filled with great popsongs and great experimental ones and a great >balance between them. But Colins three first album is also great and I >rediscoved them some month ago and just after that I discoved this site. >So I add 5 and 2 as I really liked Ideal Copy and 7 as love HALO. But 1 if I >had to choose one. > >Regarding live I saw them in London in 79. Great. There best period if you >ask me. (he. he. sometimes its great to be older) >All the best >Mats > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:37:24 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: contratulations, subscriber #100 It may interest y'all that the combined lists (idealcopy + idealcopy-digest) just passed the 100 subscriber mark. Thanks to Andrew, Charles, and all who have promoted the list over the four months of its existence! later, Miles ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #65 ******************************