From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V1 #23 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, April 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- A Greeting [] smoe fundraiser [Miles Goosens ] Re: A Greeting [Miles Goosens ] Re: A Greeting [Stewart Mason ] A Greeting and a story [my spiritual forklift ] Re: A Greeting [] Re: A Greeting and a story [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Apr 98 17:22:08 -0400 From: Subject: A Greeting Hello All (not sure how many of you are here), Since there's no faq for this list, how long has it been active? I've been hoping for a long while that something like this would exist, and lo and behold here it is! Sorry to tie up the mail with this somewhat unnecessary post, but I'm excited! Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:49:40 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: smoe fundraiser Fellow listmembers, This list and many others (check out http://www.smoe.org/lists if you want to see just how many!) would not exist were it not for the graciousness of Jeff Wasilko. smoe is largely Jeff's creation, and he has borne the bulk of the costs all by his lonesome. Lately, the smoe hardware has shown some signs of deterioration. The listowners of smoe are holding a fundraiser to help defray some or all of Jeff's costs in getting new, more powerful servers up and running. In the next few days, Mike Connell, the Jewel listowner, will be posting a message to the list with the details on how you can make donations to keep smoe up and running. Donations are not mandatory, but I do encourage your contribution of whatever you can spare. Thanks for reading this note, and keep an eye peeled for Mike's post in the near future. later, listowner Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 18:10:15 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: A Greeting At 05:22 PM 4/5/98 -0400, auteur@ix.netcom.com wrote: >Hello All (not sure how many of you are here), > > Since there's no faq for this list, how long has it been active? >I've been hoping for a long while that something like this would exist, >and lo and behold here it is! This list has been active since the end of February, so we've only been going for about a month and a half! So you haven't missed too much! If you (or anyone else) wants to see all the posts to date, the list archive is at . > Sorry to tie up the mail with this somewhat unnecessary post, but >I'm excited! No problem! List traffic has been slow, but I know (being the listowner 'n' all) that we've steadily picked up people over the last few weeks, especially since Andrew has added a link to the list home page from the Wire Page. So how about a round of introductions from everyone? Something like this: *who you are *when/where did you discover Wire *favorite album(s) *least favorite(s) (just to get us all yelling at each other) And now I'll play: Hi, I'm Miles Goosens, and I run this list, though not with an iron fist. I first heard of Wire when R.E.M. covered "Strange" on DOCUMENT, but I didn't actually get into Wire until 1992 when I picked up a cut-out copy of Wir's THE FIRST LETTER. I liked it enough to pick up the cut-out of MANSCAPE on my next trip to the record store, and I worked my way backwards quickly. My favorite album is the ever-fascinating A BELL IS A CUP UNTIL IT STRUCK, but it's closely trailed by (in no particular order) THE IDEAL COPY, CHAIRS MISSING, and 154. My least-favorite may be MANSCAPE. But this shows the quality of the Wire catalog, since MANSCAPE contains several killer tracks like "Torch It" and "Stampede." The latter was by far best song about Eastern Europe and the fall of the Berlin Wall, though its less-than-jubilant tone made it a sure third behind Jesus Jones' and (argh!) the Scorpions'. Now it's your turn! later, listowner Miles ====================================================================== "If a million people say a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing." -- Anatole France Miles Goosens outdoorminer@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~outdoorminer/miles ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 17:58:12 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: A Greeting At 06:10 PM 4/5/98 -0500, Miles Goosens wrote: >List traffic has been slow, but I know (being the listowner 'n' all) that >we've steadily picked up people over the last few weeks, especially since >Andrew has added a link to the list home page from the Wire Page. So how >about a round of introductions from everyone? Something like this: > >*who you are >*when/where did you discover Wire >*favorite album(s) >*least favorite(s) (just to get us all yelling at each other) Eh. It's an easy way to keep from working, so... I'm Stewart Mason, and I first became aware of Wire sometime in the early 80s when I was growing up in Boulder, Colorado. I saw their records in the import bins in stores, and they always looked interesting (I've always really liked the cover of 154), but I never bought them. I heard the occasional song on KBCO too, usually "I Am the Fly." The first Wire I actually bought was the "Kidney Bingos" 3-inch CD sometime in 1988, followed by IT'S BEGINNING TO AND BACK AGAIN when "Eardrum Buzz" was all over MTV's 120 Minutes in 1989. I got the first three albums, DOCUMENT AND EYEWITNESS and a lot more Mute/Enigma stuff out of the 99-cent bins when Enigma went bang in 1990 (also when I discovered the Close Lobsters and got further into Game Theory than I had been). My favorite album is probably one of the first three, though which one depends a *lot* on my mood. Usually 154. I do like the later stuff a lot as well, but the early albums sound a lot fresher to me, mostly because the extensive MIDI use on the 80s records reminds me of so many boring albums from that era that also overused MIDI. Least favorite album has to be THE FIRST LETTER. Sure, the concept is fascinating, but the execution puts me to sleep. Stewart *****************************FLAMINGO RECORDS**************************** Stewart Mason | Flamingo Records | Box 40172 | "Tap-tap-tap-GLUMP, right?" Albuquerque NM 87196 | www.rt66.com/~flamingo | ************************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE********************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: my spiritual forklift Subject: A Greeting and a story > *who you are > *when/where did you discover Wire > *favorite album(s) > *least favorite(s) (just to get us all yelling at each other) Ok, I'll bite. I'm an over-educated and under-employed 26 year-old killing time until I go to grad school for a master's in library science. I first heard Wire in the early 80s on the then-fabulous Chicago radio station WXRT. I don't remember what I heard, but when The Ideal Copy came out, I had to have it. A few years later, a Wire lyric caused my life to take a mighty strange turn: I used to hang around on IRC (basically, a really big chat room, for those who may not be familiar with it) in the late 80s, and, instead of leaving my real name out there for any and all to see, I replaced it with "fishponds and a madman's honey." One day, I received a message from someone that read "How does it feel when it's revealed," to which I responded "You've reached the living end." The person and I corresponded for two weeks before he asked me what my name was. When I told him, he was surprised -- he didn't know any women who liked Wire and had assumed that I, too, was male. Six years later, I married him. My favorite remains The Ideal Copy, followed closely by A Bell is a Cup. Can I say that the first 3 are all tied for third? I love them all. My least favorite is The First Letter, although I listened to it quite a bit when it came out, more than I listened to Manscape. Probably my weirdest Wire moment was seeing a review of The Ideal Copy and Commercial Suicide in People (!) Magazine. If anyone's curious, I'll post it to the list. Amanda - -- aschi@bronze.lcs.mit.edu aki@retina.net :=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=: "The avant-garde always ends up at WalMart sooner or later." -- A. Codrescu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 98 22:19:20 -0400 From: Subject: Re: A Greeting >*who you are >*when/where did you discover Wire >*favorite album(s) >*least favorite(s) (just to get us all yelling at each other) Hello! I am a 25 yr. old male living in Oxford, Ohio (boring) with my wife, cat, and dog. My discovery of Wire came about via a local college radio station in Akron, Ohio..WAPS. I heard Kidney Bingos in 1988 and was enticed, so I picked up "A Bell..." and was further intrigued. The next year I recall seeing the video for Eardrum Buzz constantly on 120 Minutes and Post Modern MTV (anyone remember that show?) I followed their releases through "Manscape", chanced upon hearing I am the Fly around '90 and was stunned. "Must seek back catalogue..." I picked up "Document and Eyewitness" (not my favorite at first, but it has grown on me IMMENSELY!). Then the usual "Pink Flag" (found in a cutout bin for $1.00), "Chairs Missing" (mind-blowing), and "154" (stupefying). I had heard a single off "The First Letter" (So and Slo...) and picked that up. (Amazing!) And so on and so on. I discovered Wire Mail Order (a blessing) back in 95 and was able to complete my collection of every Wire and spin off release known to mankind. This band is so close to my heart I cannot begin to describe... Favorite Albums: 1) The First Letter 2) 154 3) Chairs Missing 4) Ideal Copy (or The Drill) Least Favorite: oh, probably Manscape, though quite a few excellent tracks. I am also crazy about all the releases on Colin's swim~ label (all consistent with Wire's combination of experimental and melodic sides) and Lewis' H.A.L.O. and He Said Omala works. Have I slobbered enough? Sorry. Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Apr 98 23:47:45 -0400 From: Subject: Re: A Greeting and a story >Probably my weirdest Wire moment was seeing a review of The Ideal Copy >and Commercial Suicide in People (!) Magazine. If anyone's curious, >I'll post it to the list. I believe I'd like to read that! Eric auteur@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V1 #23 ******************************