From: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org (hotcakes-digest) To: hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Subject: hotcakes-digest V2 #19 Reply-To: hotcakes@smoe.org Sender: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk hotcakes-digest Saturday, January 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Carly is always there for me when words fail! Thank you Carly!!!!!!! ["Quentin Johnson" Subject: Re: Carly is always there for me when words fail! Thank you Carly!!!!!!! Adel, Colin, Everyone: In USA, my country as well, AIDS is not the disease of gay men. Except to those who, since hearing about AIDS in the early 80's, closed their ears, eyes, and hearts and would consider nothing else afterwards. In USA, my country as well, AIDS/HIV cases among the gay community has significantly decreased, yearly, since 1995. In USA, my country as well, AIDS/ HIV cases are highest among minorities and women of any color. I am sorry, but since I have joined this list, I feel I have had had to bear more than my share of inane blather from Adel. From her blantant anti-semitic (ms) comments when someone spectuculated as to Carly's being Jewish, to personal attacks on my person, and now this homophobic bullocks. I have no problems with Christians. I have no problem with str8 folk. I have no problem with people being ignorant, unintelligent, and even racist, living in South Carolina all my life has been excellent for learning me how to bear fools. But it has also made me realize when bearing a fool has gone to far. I know there has been a call for peace on the list, but I have to ask, why doesn't anyone recognize all of the harmful, well-intention, sugar-coated mean things Adels says, all the time? When I join this list, it was because as a black, gay man, I had never met anyone who adored her as much. Who adored her on multiple levels, not just the sentimental. Who adored her because Carly is intellectually stimulating, not simply as a tear-jerker. But all I am finding, is a list domineered by one loud-mouthed, opinionated, Christian lady who seems to be Anita Bryant, the Nazi movement, and the anti-Christ bound in one skin. And I don't think I am the only one who feels this way. It is frustrating, annoying, and dis-heartening that someone like this should adore the woman I adore so much. Knowing how much Carly works to erase the racial lines in terms of her music, not songs, but do any of you understand the influences she uses? Knowing what Carly has done for people suffering from AIDS, only for example, to hear such self-righteous commentary just turns my already sickened stomach. I am so close to unsubscribing because I cannot deal with Adel. She's a bitch. There, I have said it. And Adel, don't you dare write me any of that abusive pseudo-intellectual dribble you like to call letters. Quentin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:44:58 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: Re: Carly is always there for me when words fail! Thank you Carly!!!!!!! “”She's a bitch. There, I have said it. And Adel, don't you dare write me any of that abusive pseudo-intellectual dribble you like to call letters.”” I am very sorry that you have obviously been hurt so much during your life that you must be so hateful towards me. I truly hope that in listening to Carly’s music you will gain the peace and balance that will allow you not to lash out at people so easily. We may not agree about many things, or anything other than that Carly is great, but it might be a better use of your time to concentrate on the good things instead of how everyone treats you so poorly. It is NOT all about you. My best friends son just killed himself and I am feeling a little fragile right now. You e-mail made me cry. I know it was not that. I know that I was reacting to many things. But the timing is NOT good right now for you to be so hateful towards me. Adel P.S. The word is “drivel,” not “dribble. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of hotcakes-digest V2 #19 *****************************