From: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org (hotcakes-digest) To: hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Subject: hotcakes-digest V2 #10 Reply-To: hotcakes@smoe.org Sender: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk hotcakes-digest Monday, January 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Who is Marcia Luna?: A Lunatic [Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel ] carly post #5 ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] A few words about Carly's Posts on AOL ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] Re: Who is Marcia Luna? [catman ] FW: Carly #1 Post ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] Carly 2.5 ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] carly post 3.5 ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] carly post #8.5 ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] carly post #9.5 ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:35:02 -0200 From: Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel Subject: Who is Marcia Luna?: A Lunatic Dear Dolly, Hold on to your e-mail friends, not to lunatics who have not yet understood that behind screens are people with their happiness and sadness, problems and sensibilities. So, honey, why don't you stop drinking, grab a nice book (like "Conversations with God" of Neale Donald Walsh) and rethink about many of the very sad things that have happened to you, but also about the gifts life has given you. Please don't drink yourself to death: it's not gonna help you in any way: it will only weaken your spirit and your will power. You're alive, Dolly, and from that you can only infer that there's still something for you to do on this planet. All my love, Ana Collin: I fully, completely, agree with Hannele: why should we keep ourselves from such a sweet, light way of communicating, led by our common love for Carly? Just because some lunatics are trying to spoil all the fun? Delete their sick messages and leave them in the darkness, where they belong. Don't close the board, Collin, cause you've captivated all of us, and you know what's stated on that cute "Little Prince" book: you're responsible for the ones you captivate... A great week to all the sound people on this list. Ana -----Original Message----- From: Dolly415@aol.com [SMTP:Dolly415@aol.com] Sent: Friday, January 08, 1999 9:38 PM To: hotcakes@smoe.org Subject: Who is Marcia Luna? what i wann know is who the heck is Marcia Luna and why in the world is that person sending me such mean e-mails it makes me cry? Dolly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 06:53:44 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: Carly Post Here are some more Carly postings from AOL. She hasn't posted anything new in quite some time, but it is fun reading the old posts. Tom - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------- > Subj: Re: Promotion/new and old ideas > Date: 03-06-96 > From: MrsRhale > > Afternoon guys, I love reading the messages. My manager's name is Brian > Doyle > and he is frustrated too. I know he would love to hear your ideas. Maybe > it > would be a good idea if anyone is so inclined to sort of make a summary > and > put someone in charge of that and then Brian and/or myself can take it to > Arista, or take it upon ourselves to put some of these into action. One > thing > you'll be interested to know is we're doing a campaign with Barnes and > Noble book stores which have cafes in them. In the cafes they will sell > CIMC > and maybe have promotional mugs (coffee mugs, get it?). I have to kick it > off > with an in store signing. Probably the NY store. I love the idea of > creating a > little (or big) stir in Australia or Europe. I agree that no one has ever > "powwowed" over my career like you have. I am forever fascinated and > grateful > for all your ideas. Keeping my records on your stereos is always a > good idea!! Giving them as gifts, making sure they are well displayed in > your > local stores, getting the store to play the record, calling VH1 or sending > postcards and requesting play of any of the videos (especially Touched By > the > Sun) is a great idea, as they are swayed by requests. College radio > stations > are very important. If any of you are in that age group and can influence > radio there, they are much better about answering their own phones. > > See, it would be no fun at all if the records were huge hits and we > couldn't > brainstorm like this !!!! I'm telling you though that we will prevail and > if I > ever win a Grammy for album of the year it will be because of you. Please > stay > close to me. > Love, Carly > > > > Subj: Happy Mother's Day > Date: 05-12-96 > From: MrsRhale > > Happy stormy, gusty Mother's Day Eve. Thank you all for the messages!!! > Being > a mom is quite the best part of my life. I'm seriously thinking of giving > up > music as far as the business part of it goes. I can't tread these murky > waters > much longer...I'll still write songs and perhaps even make my own basement > tapes. But when I think of the extra time I could have had with my kids > etc. > Some day I'll write a book and tell you all what it was like being a > woman in the business and juggling careers and getting past forty and how > the > industry has changed. What am I saying, getting past fifty!!! I don't have > hard feelings exactly, it's just that I can see that there are so many > wonderful things to do with one's life, and being famous isn't so > gratifying. > In fact, it takes your eye off the big prize. Which is a spiritual one and > we > all know it, but it's too damn easy to forget. > So, there's my little message for today!! > Can anyone direct me to a place on line where I can learn chess? I've > played > about ten games and am in love with it. But I need to learn how to play!!! > Love, Carly > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:01:36 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: carly post #5 > "Love of my life, the song", is from the movie "THis is my life" (not > made > for TV)". The soundtrack is on Reprise (the label Frank started, it was > going > to be called "Revenge" records, for the damage he thought Capitol did > him)! > The soundtrack includes "The night before christmas", "Easy on the Eyes", > "Back the way it was before" and "The show must go on". Quincy Jones > rescued > the album from nowheresville as he released it at the last minute, Cive > Davis deciding he didn't want the album on Arista because he didn't > believe in > the movie. A perfectly reasonable thing to do, but thank heavens for Q. in > this case. > Love C > > Subject: Re: 2 Carly re Literature > Date: 5/18/98 10:10 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <1998051903104800.XAA03318@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Just started reading: "King, Queen, Knave" by Nabokov. I'm a beginner > where he > is concerned. Not even Lolita! > I read Milan Kundera's "Identity" over the weekend. Highly reccomend it, I > do. > Love C > > Subject: Re: The Singer/Songwriter.... > Date: 5/18/98 10:27 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <1998051903272000.XAA01094@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > I'm looking forward to the Inner City School project. It will likely be in > Boston sometime next fall. I'm not sure under what auspices or if there > will > be any auspices at all. I'm not even sure what an auspice is! > I'm working on my NY women's album, the working title of which is "When > Manhattan was a maiden". I like the title so much that it may make it to > the > final cut. There is a song (or to be precise, the beginning of one) that > goes: > "When Manhattan was a maiden > I was her lover... > The Brooklyn Bridge bringing wood for her fires > The snow circling down around her hips > The horse making tracks on the first of his trips > As the deep scarlet moon, I was kissing her lips... > When Manhattan was a maiden." > > That's just the first verse, although Ben thinks I should leave it as it > is > and just sing it slow and langorous, stretching those notes. WHo knows, > but I > do rather like it and printing it out here makes it a copyrite, so lets > say > this is the first copyrite on my new album. That makes it official I > guess, > I'll have to do it now. > LOve and goodnight, Carly > > Subject: birthday presents redux > Date: 7/26/98 9:39 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <1998072614392600.KAA13905@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > You all out there who presented me with the basket, brought via the loving > arms of Debbie Brown. I think I'm a bit late. It was so enormously > thoughtful > of you and I had such a fun time openning them. My music book with the > pink > stars inside is still making a fashion statement in my lovely house. > Georgia > is still on my mind, Nadine, John, Emma, Grace and Ethan and the peace > signs. > Julie, Pam, Terri, Jordan (what a card!!) The cockles of your > heart, Jyla and Debbie's incredible art work and the gorgeous jewelry. You > really made my heart sing!! > I've been meaning to answer you sooner, but silly things got in the way. > I send you all so much love and if I forgot anyone's gift, please excuse > me, > the pink candle may have already done it's burning. Are you having the > best > summer? Admittedly, I haven't checked the board at all (It's like going > to > excercise class, some months you just forget it, right?) But never feel > like > I'm not just a day away from being back here and with you all, sending my > love. Carly > PS for those of you interested in my health issues, I've finished my chemo > and > am slowly recovering my strengh (two sets of tennis yesterday!!!!!) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 07:23:29 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: A few words about Carly's Posts on AOL Hi Everyone, I hope you enjoy reading these posts from Carly as much as I did. Thanks to Michele from AOL for providing them on Carly's AOL board. She deserves "Fan of the Year" award. Carly apparently has her e-mail ID blocked, so please do not expect her to write to you. There is some great news about her latest efforts embedded in these e-mails. I am looking forward to whatever incarnation of lyrics and music finally end up with her new completed project. Her final post of this series ends with some great news in regards to her health. Unfortunately, she has stopped posting on AOL, my guess is because of negative and cruel postings to that board - the likes of which sometimes also appear on Hotcakes. Does anybody participate on other celebrities boards? I wonder if they all take on the same negative tone after a while. As Carly mentioned a few times, "Lets keep it positive". A criticism is one thing, but too many times posts veer off into the land of hate. I'll get off my soap box now. Love (comma) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:19:51 -0600 From: Margarita Leal Subject: THANK YOU. TOM ! Dear Tom Manning: Thank you for the CS's postings on AOL. Let's let love for Carly keep us together. Margarita. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:06:28 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Who is Marcia Luna? Well I didn't know we were archived and I should have! Whoops! Thanks for telling me Hannele Hakala wrote: > catman wrote: > > >I don't know. She is not on this list BUT someone is passing mail from > >this list to others not on it. > > Anybody can read all the postings to this list on www.smoe.org and > see who is writing to this list. So, it's not necessarily so, > that someone here is passing our messages to outsiders. > > The dark side of the Web is all that crap and mean postings, what > sick people are sending to others wanting to insult. But we don't > have to read that crap. My advice: just ignore those, don't > read them and don't in any circumstances reply to them. > > If we close this list, those sick and mean assholes will win us and > that is what we don't want. Am I right or am I right? ;-) > > And remember: the delete button is very very quick and easy to use! > > Hannele - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:12:58 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: FW: Carly #1 Post I am going to break these posts into a number of e-mails since they are too long. Hopefully it will work this time. Tom > ---------- > From: Manning, Thomas (Tom) > Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 7:05 AM > To: 'Hotcakes' > Subject: Carly #1 Post > Importance: High > > Subject: Re:"Laura" > Date: 3/18/97 11:56 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: > > My God I have missed you. > My computer crashed ten days ago, before I went up to Pawling to do vocal > fixes. We are ten tracks down, two to go. I'm trying to figure out if my > computer crashes more than most. I've had it for about six months and it > has > crashed three times. > About the seventies: I had one and a half "active" years. And that is the > truth. When I fell in love with James, that was it. When I said whatever > I > said about the "seventies" it was a thoughtless miscalculation that if I > had > paid any attention to what I was saying at all, I would have been very > specific and said " I blazed quite a fair trail between the mid sixties > and > the early seventies. Very early seventies, and then the trail became a > single > heavenly path (are you all nauseated yet?). > Everything is going quite well with the record. We're almost finished, but > I > have to go to Puerto Rico for over two weeks which will put a little > hiatus > into the project. I hope it will surprise you. And please you and turn > you on > to more films like "Laura". > And I hope Stacey gets well fast! > My love Carly > > > Subject: Re:Welcome Back Carly!! > Date: 3/19/97 9:01 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: > > Hi Sue, > I'll probably do the Letterman show once the album is released. IT might > be > the only show I'll do. Unless I do Rosie, which has always seemed to me > like a > fun place to be. You never know though. Of course there will be a lot of > attention to me on AMC and the documentary. > Love C > > Subject: Re: Carly and Peter Dean > Date: 3/23/97 7:06 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970324000600.TAA27273@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > I can't believe you remember that!!!! > I'm so happy to be reminded. I think it may have been the first song I > ever > learned. My Uncle Peter was an amazing man who was a manager (Dianah > Shore, > Peggy Lee and others) and then at the age of 72 he started singing and > playing > the ukelele. He was called Peter "Snake hips" Dean and he crooned and > danced > as he crooned. I remember as a little girl of three or four, sitting on > the > back porch learning that song. He died about seven years ago. > Truly one of the great influences in my life. Very funny too. I want to > comment about the 'women in music' topic, but I'll do it on another page. > Love > C > > Subject: Re: AMC? > Date: 3/23/97 7:32 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970324003201.TAA28755@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Right. > In conjunction with the album, AMC is doing a documentary about film noir > and > the preservation of vintage film. They filmed three days of me with the > orchestra. I'm also doing a concert in LA in Sept for the society of film > preservation something or other. I think once again it's a private party, > but > I'll find out if there are any available seats. That concert will be part > of > the documentary. I'll do the new material (noir). > As far as the status of women, just think about this: Most reviewers are > men. > The more challenged they are (from a various set of angles and dimensions > and > backround traumas) the more they will react accordingly. One honest male > interviewer once said to me: "Carly, once you have lost your looks or have > had > some serious operation, they will deify you, otherwise they are threatened > by > your particular combination". I never had the courage to ask > him what my "particular combination" was, but I have a feeling it was a > bit of > smoke blowing. IT's hard not to be hurt by the press, but what I have > decided > to do is to make music all by myself and with Ben and Sally and other > great > musician friends who want to and just send it out to you as we make it and > let > you duplicate it and send it on. THat way, I can do what I was born to do > and > have it appreciated simply and non-commercially. You > think I'm kidding, but I'm not. THis craziness has gotten out of hand and > we're in trouble of forgetting what we started doing it all for in the > first > place. Which was the absolute love of it. > Love C > > > Subject: Re: Children's Books > Date: 3/23/97 7:34 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970324003400.TAA28883@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Sue, > I am pretty sure the answer is yes on doing an audio version of Midnight > Farm. > Maybe even a song that will be somehow attatched to the book jacket. > On one CD? Maybe I'll finally do a children's album. Unless I stick to > what I > just declared in my last post. > Love C > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:14:37 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: Carly 2.5 > Subject: Re: Friends, Romans, Countrymen... > Date: 2/19/98 10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980220035500.WAA11136@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > Dear literati, > Dorothy Parker, George S. Kaufman and S.J. Perleman coudn't have had more > fun > than you with your rapier wits and appetite for propitious > misinterpretations. > I love it and deserve it. > I am happy for the good reaction to ETWSG video. Yes, it should have been > made > in September. I finally convinced Arista to make it after a long hard > struggle. I guess it was nice John Sykes who promised to play it. Just > round > table politics. But better late than never and better cheap than no money > at > all. > Much love C. > > Subject: Re: Friends, Romans, Countrymen... > Date: 2/20/98 12:24 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980220052400.AAA26171@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > > I forgot to mention the ever-supportive Ken Levy at Arista, who actualized > the > video and the amazingly talented (shoe string or no shoe string) David > Hodge > (director) who incase any of you are familiar with it, also directed the > basically home-made video of "I get along without you very well" from > "Torch" > days. > Now that was "Film Noir" in that "Film Noir" is using whatever you happen > to > have available and what we had available for that one was my face, not > even my > body. I don't remember where my body was on that occasion, but Dave Hodge > made > a landscape of my face. As I recall it looked a bit like Missouri. > Love and other demons, Carly > > Subject: Re: Friends, Romans, Countrymen... > Date: 2/20/98 10:14 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980221031401.WAA22556@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > DEar Jeff et al, > Family is doing very well thank you. Sally is living in Colorado and > singing > with two different bands. She seems to be having the time of her life and > is > loving school and still has the time to be her evanescent self, not to > mention > effervescent. Ben is still finding his home at one company or > another. It > will be about a month til he's actually in the studio. I hope to do some > background vocals here and there without seeming like an over > attentive back-stage-door-Johnny-be-good-tonight. WHatever. > Lucy is writing the music for the forthcoming broadway musical: Dr. > Zhivago. > What a big production and how dedicated whe is. Joey is doing music, real- > estate and her usual browsing around behaving quite hilarious and > dignified, > yet wonderfully silly. > Peter is taking pictures, doing his calendars, his Vineyard books and is > just > about to release another Vineyard Sounds CD. Whatever genes our family > got, > there is not an excess of laziness. > Much love to all and I hate to have to remind you, but please don't write > me > directly unless you know my father's middle inital, my mother's maiden > name, > and the exact time I first appeared on stage as a solo artist and the name > of > the first boy I fell in love with and in what State, County and what > season of > the year!!!! > It just gets too impossible to answer letters when you write directly to > my > box and I end up feeling guilty and then unsure as to whether I should > participate. > Take care of yourselves this weekend and remember that February showers > bring > March winds. Carly > > Subject: Re: beards, belles and fishing for fight... > Date: 2/20/98 10:30 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980221033001.WAA14862@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Ah, sweet motherhood. The dual needs to be both real and wise. The > itersection > of those two is one of life's great dilemnas anyway. > I have been reading some of the posts of dissention and farewell. > Here's what I think. In the absense of a real war, we go to neurosis and > clever maneuvers, backbiting and other outlets of our inborn negetivity. > When > you have to be a real warrior, you don't play such small games anymore. > Not > that the games can't be fun. We need diversions and play time. But what do > you > really think is happening in the case of Sadam H? Is he the real (staged) > war > that will put us back in our atavistic space of hungering for real > life crisis in order that we unload our gossip guns and replace them with > the > big guys? Is it a case of Wag the Dog? Or is it just predictable timing? > (what > war could EVER be good timing, but I trust you know what I mean. > LOve C > > Subject: Re: Speaking of March Winds > Date: 2/21/98 1:29 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980221062901.BAA12549@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Teri, > I missed it that it was your birthday. Good going Girl!!! I know we're all > proud of you here. A serious illness makes you reevaluate your whole life > and > coming out the other side is a gift and you are going to be forever > changed > for the better. THat is my real belief and we all put it into practice in > our > own wise ways. > Have you ever listened to Caroline Myss (pronounced MACE)'s tapes: "Energy > Anatomy". If not, delay nor tarry. Go and get it right away. That goes for > anyone, with a physical manifestatin of an illness or a stuck attitude. I > can't reccomend her highly enough. > Love Carly > > Subject: Re: Extra Ticket to Nicolette Larson Memorial show 2/21 > Date: 2/21/98 1:32 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19980221063201.BAA23325@ladder03.news.aol.com> > > OH I'm so happy there is going to be a show to honor Nicolette. Her > husband, > Russ Kunkel, is a dear friend of mine. I wish I had known about the > concert, > but now I do and I will try to get a tape of it. If anyone is lucky enough > to > go, please tell me about it. > THanks, Love C > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:15:58 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: carly post 3.5 > Subject: Re: New lyric idea > Date: 5/8/97 8:35 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970509013501.VAA01230@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Here's a new idea for a lyric. Just a start, but I am inspired to lay it > on > you since you all seem to be interested in the "process". You'll see it > emerge > (or not) as a song. It's about the stunning and irrefutable force of hope: > > For the broken heart there is a secret end > When we've cut a path so close to despair > Then orange blossoms > Cut a swath through the brand new air > And there's something beyond > And it will have it's way again > A force so old and wise > In the hearts of men > It butts up to weary houses > And the dusky gray day's end > It dives down on us with all it's hope > It will have it's way again > Not to mention, God's intension > Is hard to comprehend > But just when we would fold from fear > It will have it's way again > For the heaviest of hearts... > There is a secret end. > > It doesn't scan yet and there are some weak lines, but it's a start. > And > just when I thought I would never write another song....You catch my > drift. I > hope this speaks to some of you. YOu inspire me with your wisdom and your > kindness to me. Much love, Carly > > > Subject: Re: New lyrics > Date: 5/9/97 8:22 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970509132200.JAA17842@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Not a thought in the world as to the melody. Chicken and egg thing works > like > this with me: First the lyric (or some manifestation of it) and then the > melody. Often just a bit of a lyric will suffice for me to get rolling > with > the melody, then I return hat in hand, to the lyric and play leap frog the > rest of the way out. > Most often, lyrics like the ones I wrote to you last night, are like > letters > never sent. They get 'never put to music' > Or one line will get extracted and used in some completely new context, > (organ > donor)! > I was a little shaky about putting that lyric on the board last night > until I > realized that if I hadn't spaced the lines as such and repeated one a > couple > of times, it would have just looked like a message. THis is the secret > about > crative work: IT's like fingerpainting, only not! > Love Carly > > Subject: Re: May 9, evening. > Date: 5/9/97 6:35 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970509233500.TAA29895@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Thanks for the positive response on the lyric front. Belinda, that was > pretty > interesting (your follow up ideas). Totally unsingable, but you give > Bertrand > Russell a run for his money. Singers can't deal with words of too many > sylables (mouthfulls), but poets are another thing as are philosophers. > You > are a delicious writer and obviously love words. > Sue, my version of "Laura" starts with a snippet of "Haunting" Arif Mardin > who > did the arrangement for "Laura" also arranged "Haunting" back in 1978. The > two > dovetail nicely. > And yes, Jeanette, Chase is using "Looking through Katherines' house" > which is > one of the cues from "Working Girl" based on the "Let the River run" > melody. > Twentieth Century Fox co-owns the copyrite of the song with me and > deference > must be paid (unless I have a very strong negetive opinion which in this > case > I did not). > And Dave, during the "No Secrets" sessions so many luminaries dropped in > to > say hello as we were recording our vocal overdubs in Air studios (owned by > George Martin) so vast numbers of Beatles were roaming around. I actually > introduced Mick Jagger to Paul McCartney! > Today I was asked to host a VH-1 Special airing on June 3d I think on > President Clinton and his love of music. I said "yes". Taping on Friday > next. > Yikes. No time to make dessert! > Love Carly > > Subject: Re: Observation on marriage > Date: 5/9/97 9:11 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970510021100.WAA26748@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > I guess "on my sleeve" is as good a way as any to put it. It's better than > turning it into a clenched fist I dare say. I think James was a little > nervous > about mentioning me at all (it shows in interviews too) because of his > zealously jealous second wife (who was hovering from the moment of our > breakup). > And no one takes anyone to task for bringing up JT on this board. He is my > family. > My love, Carly > > Subject: Re: How did it "get" this way?? > Date: 5/17/97 5:58 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970517225800.SAA04772@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Oh dear, tension? > But but but...ignore it. Immediately. Let it be dispersed into the sea of > forgiveness. There is not time for fretting and fighting my friends. > I did tape the "Rock 'n' roll President" special that airs on June 3d. > TIme > around 8 pm I think. They had done all the footage and I just recorded > some > voice overs (some on camera). I think it's quite a nice feature on the > President. It was the idea of his Arkansas friends to do it and they are > featured quite a bit. > I also noticed some talk about the Vanity Fair article on Joni which I > have > not seen but perhaps I had rather not see it. IT would be nice if some day > someone got the story right. Mainly Chrissie did not insult me at all. She > just choked me in her exhuberant way and instead of changing my seat which > I > thought would look bad, I left a few songs before the end (which looked a > lot > worse I guess). I truly was astonished that no one came to my rescue > (like Liz Rosenberg for example) to unhook her hands from around my neck, > but > you see it was never really read (at that moment) as hostility. What she > was > saying to me as she had her hands tightly wrapped around my neck, was: > "you > ought to get up there and sing too. You're a sister too. You can sing your > ass > off". I really don't think she meant to harm me, it just looked bad and > actually felt rather bad too. I guess it's' hard to get something > like that accurately in print when reporting it. It certainly had > everything > to do with booze. And yes, I do think she was annoying to the audience, > unless > they were looking for annecdotes to share with their roomates later on. > (Always a good motive for putting up with insanity!) > I would have read through more of the posts, but lordy, there are so many. > Keep it positive. > Love Carly > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:20:23 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: carly post #8.5 > Subject: Re: CD woes > Date: 6/2/97 11:54 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970602165400.MAA05193@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Hard to be sure I read all the messages between last night and today > because > of odd orders and intricacies which you probably already have learned to > circumvent and decipher, while I, in my infinite lack of technical wisdom, > have to wallow in the mire of insubstantial knowledge, leading to utter > confusion and the desire to take a jump off a very high building. But, in > short, I'm glad you like Spy on CD. I haven't heard it yet. YOu are all > very > funny and I have been laughing hard over many of your entries. > As far as this being the last album for Arista, yes, I confirm that it > is. > They had me for five albums which turned into more because they didn't > consider the live album or My Romance, or the Working Girl soundtrack real > "studio" albums. I don't' know what I'm going to do. My instincts are > running > random and wild on the subject. WHen my interior people (in my head) take > a > vote, the consensus seems to be, forget and forgo the commercialism and > make records at home and distribute them to folks who really want them. > They > would sound a little more professional than "Cat on a hot tin roof", but > not > much. I have to remember who I am. I have forgotten over the years. > Because I > cant' remember, I don't know what to write. Sometimes I can recall for a > brief > time, but I mean I want to spend long and probably painful days and nights > getting rid of the crap that's clogged my vision. (I mean where > the ego has taken over to such a degree that it's taken off on it's own > and > even owns it's own car.). Without a record company to dictate anything, > I'll > have the room to stretch out and think for myself. > As far as the intruder, he thought Sally was his daughter, by me! He also > fancied that he had children with Stevie Nicks. I'll write soon. Glad you > like > "Everytime we say goodbye". I didn't know Simply Red had done a cover. > That's > fairly amazing. I have heard Annie Lennox's version, which is wonderful. > But > MY version is better because it has BEN on it.Oh how he sounds. Just wait > until you hear him. He's so fine. > Much love, CArly > PS Do they ask you every five minutes whether you know that you've been > idle > for a while and would you like to stay on? > > Subject: Re: 10 Steps to Inner Peace > Date: 6/9/97 4:16 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970609211600.RAA18152@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Love the ten steps. Belinda you are not only funny, but resourceful and on > the > money. > Laura, I don't know what tragedy you have gone through, but my thoughts > and > wishes and condolences and empathy are with you. > As for "film noir", the title is still to be determined, but listening to > the > album in it's finished state, as I did today (we master tomorrow), it > sounds > pretty 'film noir'-ish. I mean the orchestrations are so lush and you can > literally see Joan Crawford and Rita Hayworth and Bogie boogying around > and > through the soaring violas and woodwinds. The duet with Travolta turned > out to > be utterly wonderful and full of warmth and tenderness. I can't > wait for you all to hear it. Ben said today that he is proud of me for > making > such a spectacularly non-commercial album. Jimmy Webb has been a dream to > work > with. He went to Austrailia for two weeks to promote Ten Easy Pieces and > he > was very well (not surprisingly) received. > By the way, the story about Mona is true. I don't remember who inquired. I > just remember one morning coming down stairs to find a grocery list of to > dos > for the day and it read something like this: > > "Call Roy about the cabinet > Call Jocko re transportation to Cleveland > Write thank you note to Katie > Kill Mona > Buy supplies for the sailboat..." > > She just got so damn big that she was running through every fence we > erected > to try and keep her contained. She even burst through the living room > window. > She was a big one. I can't exactly remember what the "Mona" story James > tells > on stage is, but very likely it is true. She eventually died of eating rat > poison that was NOT intended for her. We could never have done it. IT was > God's will that she got around to eating the rat poison before the > rats did. > > I'm about to go to Santa Fe with Ben. I've never been to Santa Fe and Ben > is > excited to be my tour guide. If I don't write anything until I get back, > it > will only be a week and a half. > Much love to all. Keep the home fires burning. > Carly > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:21:44 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: carly post #9.5 > Subject: Re: INTIMATE PORTRAIT RERUN > Date: 6/29/97 9:29 AM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970629142901.KAA08591@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Just a few answers: > > Kate Taylor is singing on the VIneyard on July 6th. Mindy Jostyn will be > in > her band! She (Kate) is going to be making a new album in the fall (on the > Vineyard I think). > She sounds better than ever and is one of the best people I have ever had > the > pleasure to know. > > I have no idea where Jimmy Ryan is. I miss him. He is brilliant and was a > great musical commerade. I'm sorry to have lost touch. > > I mention James so much because others do and I respond. In no way does > that > diminish the importance of my husband. Obviously James Taylor would be a > more > relevant topic here. HE is also the father of my children. > JIm, unfortunatley couldn't make it for my birthday dinner which is why I > didn't mention him in that context. To simplify: James is a public figure > and > many people on this board talk about him. Jim figures much more privately > in > my life (happily so). > > I was disappointed that the radio station only played 1/4 of the song. I'm > sure that's not what they had intended, but news is news I guess. > > Saw "Face off" the other night and thought John was brilliant. Then last > night > we saw..."Ear off". God, what a display. How horrendous was Mike Tyson? > WHat > could he have been thinking? HIs fast forward mechanism wasn't working too > well. I think it's all over for him. > > Have a great Sunday. > And love, C > > Subject: Re: The Hog has left the Building > Date: 7/9/97 9:12 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970710021201.WAA12759@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > Hello again ---- > I fell into flipping through the last 285 posts, dipping into wit and > hilarity > as I did so ("THe knives are in the cabinet"),just to name one of the > things > that made me laugh and spill orange juice onto my laptop. > Amazing that someone recognized "Didn't I" as the backround music for Boy > of > the Bells. I can't pull the wool over anyone's eyes here. Actually, I am > less > than six degrees of separation from a tanning bed. Before I played the > "foxwood' engagement, I was so wan and pale, verging on gray, that I went > twice to a sunbed in NYC (once doesn't really do any good) and I felt I > looked > rather splendid and Caribean on my openning night. The following week, > back in NY, I discovered many little red welts which I thought were from > bed > bugs in the sheets of the Frank Sinatra suite at the resort (Foxwoods). I > went > to a dermatologist who did what he had to do and he told me I had > scabies!!!! > and that I had gotten them from the sunbed. IT took me four months to get > rid > of them completely and so I tell you that you better take your own bottle > of > lysol when you go and spray before you tan. IT also makes > you smell wholesome which is important when you are doing something so > sinful. > Sally (her name was chosen after James and I had known each other for a > week, > he said "if we ever have children, they will be Sally and Ben" ) is sick > with > mono but still performing with her group and still teaching aerobics and > still > lighting up everybody's life. Ben is going in five days to the Arctic > Circle > with a group of adventurers who need to prove to themselves that they can > survive in the wilderness for 32 days. You can imagine how > deeply charmed I am. > I sang with Kate at the Roof on Sunday night. She was excellent and had > the > whole place in thrall. Mindy played with her and then at the end of the > show I > came on and the three of us did some "trio" work, a little like Emmy Lou, > Linda and Dolly. It was very fun. > I feel I have run on too long and have still missed some questions and > remarks > I had meant to make. Please forgive. IT's sultry as hell up here on the > VIneyard. IT will rain everywhere else. Even thunder and lightning and > here it > just teases and quits before anything significant speaks loud enough to > evoke > that gutteral feeling of helplessness in the face of nature. Probably > famous > last words, but I suppose i mean to tempt. > Oh, yes, that was interesting about "falling into Ben". No, I didn't sing > that, but if I'd had my wits about me, you can be sure I would have. > Much love. IT's good to be back. Carly > > Subject: Re: Middle Name > Date: 7/10/97 9:46 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970711024600.WAA04878@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > It is Elizabeth. > Named after my father's sister. All my other sisters have the same middle > handle. C'est music is in fact my initials of that period strung together. > And, I was always proud to have Carly as a name. While my friends were > groping > around changing Susan to Brett and Jane to Jasmine, I stood tall and happy > in > the uniqueness of my Carlyhood. Recently a group of friends and I were > sitting > around re-naming each other based on the essence of that person. I was > renamed > Theodora Dance. Jim (my husband) was Clive Wolfe, Sally was Slate Sparr > and > Ben was Dren Nordick. THe way we did it was to each > contribute one name for each of the others present and then we all voted.I > highly reccomend it for the next dinner party you have with friends you > know > well. > Still dry up here. Probably it will rain the day Clinton arrives and won't > stop for three weeks. > Much love C > > Subject: Re: SCREEN NAMES > Date: 7/12/97 10:19 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970713031900.XAA25424@ladder01.news.aol.com> > > Soap opera name: > Elizabeth Grosvenor > > Porn Star: > Woofie Heinemann! > > I"m flattered that there do seem to be a lot of little girls named Carly > now > (at least at my book and record signings, but then again they would be > there > if anywhere). THe real challenge and the sign by which I will know I am > truly > adored is if someone names their child 'MrsRhale' > > Love C > > > Subject: Re: origin of "Carly" > Date: 7/13/97 1:23 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: MrsRhale > Message-id: <19970713182300.OAA27304@ladder02.news.aol.com> > > It's not as interesting a story as it might be, but it's factual and > unembellished: > My mother's best friend was one Carolyn Wharton. She was called Carly for > short. So when I turned up female, and Carl had to change, it simply and > easily prgressed into Carly. > It's sultry and still up here on the Vineyard. I anticipate weather > forecasts > the way some wait for a favorite song, to give me some hope for my wilting > hydrangas, some relief for my orange lawn. I have been painting pears > (something I learned to do in Santa Fe from a splendid artist named Carol > Anthony). I'm going to hang them up once I have ten of them on a beam in > my > dining room. > Much love to you all. > Carly > > > ------------------------------ End of hotcakes-digest V2 #10 *****************************