From: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org (hotcakes-digest) To: hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Subject: hotcakes-digest V1 #97 Reply-To: hotcakes@smoe.org Sender: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk hotcakes-digest Tuesday, December 22 1998 Volume 01 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Hello Big Man ["AKIRA ISHII" ] Re: Big Man better than Lately? ["Adel Perkins" ] Re: Don't believe everything you hear! ["Hannele Hakala" Subject: RE: Hello Big Man hello my name is Akira Ishii from Japan. Hello Big Man is my favorites. Because I think a melody of HBM is simple. Also future David Sanbon's the best Alt saxphone solo. Take care - -----Original Message----- 差出人 : Whydja@aol.com 宛先 : hotcakes@smoe.org 日時 : 1998年12月21日 3:14 件名 : Hello Big Man > >Does Anyone know if "Hello Big Man" is available on CD? >I have been looking for it everywhere but can't seem to find it. > >Tom > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 07:55:52 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: Re: Big Man better than Lately? John: I think it is a compliment to Carly that different people find something great in all of her albums. Much better than all of us agreeing that any one of her albums sucked and was a waste of time! I like the variety of HBM. You Know What To Do is one of the few dance Carly songs that works (My New Boyfriend is sort of gimmicky and gets annoying). Orpheus is one of Carly痴 most beautiful songs especially when you know it was written to James Taylor. I sometimes almost feel like I am going to cry when I hear 的 loved you aaaaaaaall along at the end (mainly because I am thinking about my feeling that way a long time ago about my first husband). 的t Happens Every Day is also one of Carly痴 best songs. And I really love 鉄uch A Good Boy that is a song that always puts me in a great mood. With Have You Seen Me Lately, when I got past the first three tracks I felt like the album was falling apart. Waiting At The Gate is a horrible song. And Life Is Eternal belongs on a Hallmark card (兎ternity in bloom is a great line, but the song is otherwise simple-minded preachy and repetitive). 展e Just Got Here is beautiful. 哲ot Like Him and 典wo Hot Girls have great lyrics but crappy music. I can recognize 滴olding Me Tonight as a good song, but it was never one that I personally ever wanted to listen to. About your initial question, I heard that HBM was NOT being printed anymore. I live in Miami and we have a great used CD store. Next time I am there I will check for it and let you know (I'll make sure there are no scratches!). Happy Christmas Everyone! Adel ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:03:58 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: Don't believe everything you hear! Welcome Akira! How cool to have someone from Japan. You know what I've always found to be interesting about the song Hello Big Man (apart from the great music) is what a total fraud it is. In the song Carly is putting across the idea "my parents had the perfect marriage." "He did it all for her...." This idea was emphasized in the video that had real pictures of her parents in it. I remember thinking at the time (because my parents have a very happy marriage) "What a wonderful thing for Carly to do." Then, years later, I read the Vanity Fair interview and Carly tells that her father was always really in love with another woman (to the point that her parents never even slept together on their honeymoon) and that her mother took a college age lover. Then I realized that the song Hello Big Man was (except for the bits about how they met) totally fiction. This made me think. Everyone says Carly is a very autobiographic songwriter. I think she is. But she obviously is not above manipulating the facts at times. So we should be careful to assume songs about things we can't check the facts. I don't hold this against Carly because I don't think it is the listeners business to know her personal stuff. But it is interesting. Adel - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "AKIRA ISHII" To: Subject: RE: Hello Big Man Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:13:35 +0900 hello my name is Akira Ishii from Japan. Hello Big Man is my favorites. Because I think a melody of HBM is simple. Also future David Sanbon's the best Alt saxphone solo. Take care - -----Original Message----- =8D=B7=8Fo=90l : Whydja@aol.com =88=B6=90=E6 : hotcakes@smoe.org =93=FA=8E=9E : 1998=94N12=8C=8E21=93=FA 3:14 =8C=8F=96=BC : Hello Big Man > >Does Anyone know if "Hello Big Man" is available on CD? >I have been looking for it everywhere but can't seem to find it. > >Tom > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:33:02 +0200 From: "Hannele Hakala" Subject: Re: Hello Big Man Adel Perkins wrote: >My opinion is that "Hello Big Man" is a much better album than "Have You >Seen Me Lately?" MUCH BETTER. Hello Big Man is my fave too. All songs in HBM are good or great. Especially I love You Know What To Do, Menemsha, Is This Love, It Happens Everyday, Such a Good Boy and Floundering. And the greatest song is of course Hello Big Man. But Have You Seen Me Lately? is my fave too. HBM and HYSML? are equal good and enjoyable, I think. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all and especially to Colin! Hannele from the snow-white Christmas town Turku ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:16:05 +0200 From: "Hannele Hakala" Subject: Re: Don't believe everything you hear! Adel Perkins wrote: > Then I realized that the song Hello Big Man was (except for the > bits about how they met) totally fiction. Humm... I think that Carly is a poet and a poet's job is to write a poem no matter what. And a poet has a poetic licence. A good poem is always true. "It doesn't have to be happend". When a poet finds the truth of a poem and writes it out, then the poem is true. Hannele ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:58:00 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: Re: Don't believe everything you hear! Hannele: As a general priciple, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. But I think Carly's writing of the song Hello Big Man was more like a biographer than a poet. With using images of her parents in the video she was trying to say "this is what really happened." And it didn't. Have a wonderful Christmas. As I look outside at a coconut palm, I envy you being surrounded by snow! Adel - ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:16:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Don't believe everything you hear! From: "Hannele Hakala" To: hotcakes@smoe.org Adel Perkins wrote: > Then I realized that the song Hello Big Man was (except for the > bits about how they met) totally fiction. Humm... I think that Carly is a poet and a poet's job is to write a poem no matter what. And a poet has a poetic licence. A good poem is always true. "It doesn't have to be happend". When a poet finds the truth of a poem and writes it out, then the poem is true. Hannele ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:08:42 EST From: Whydja@aol.com Subject: Re: Big Man better than Lately? Adel, Thanks for looking for HBM. I'm glad I got some conversation going... and I thought I was just asking a simple question!!! Happy Holidays Everyone....and Adel don't be too jealous of the snow - It is sooooo cold here in Denver. It did make it to 11 degrees F today, but has been below zero all weekend. Don't forget Carly is on PAX TV tonight! 8pm EST. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:47:23 EST From: Whydja@aol.com Subject: Intimate portrait Please write to: portrait@www.lifetimetv.com and ask them to re-air the Carly Simon Intimate Portrait. Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ End of hotcakes-digest V1 #97 *****************************