From: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org (hotcakes-digest) To: hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Subject: hotcakes-digest V1 #86 Reply-To: hotcakes@smoe.org Sender: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk hotcakes-digest Friday, December 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Carly Has Retired! ["Robert Minks" ] RE: Carly Has Retired! [Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel ] RE: Carly Has Retired! ["Manning, Thomas (Tom)" ] Re: Carly Has Retired! [catman ] RE: Carly Has Retired! ["Adel Perkins" ] Re: Carly Has Retired! ["Adel Perkins" ] Re: Carly Has Retired! [catman ] Re: Carly Has Retired! [catman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 11:28:20 PST From: "Robert Minks" Subject: Carly Has Retired! I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life and will retire from the music industry. I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is just a rumor. Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:33:39 -0200 From: Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel Subject: RE: Carly Has Retired! Jesus! This sounds like the worst news in a long time (and I've come across many bad news lately). Even if it's not a rumor, who knows it may be temporary. She needs time to recover, recharge... If not, her legacy is already more than we deserve. Best to all. Ana -----Original Message----- From: Robert Minks [SMTP:robminks@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 5:28 PM To: hotcakes@smoe.org Subject: Carly Has Retired! I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life and will retire from the music industry. I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is just a rumor. Rob ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:10:54 -0700 From: "Manning, Thomas (Tom)" Subject: RE: Carly Has Retired! I had heard that although Carly was happy with Arista, she was also not concerned that her contract had expired. Record companies are too interested in sales and "hits" and Carly felt that it was infringing on her creativity. She had planned to sell her next release over the internet as Prince has done with his last release. I can't remember where I read this, but I wouldn't think that the lack of a record contract would stop Carly. She has been awfully quiet lately though - I do hope she is OK. Tom > ---------- > From: Robert Minks[SMTP:robminks@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:28 PM > To: hotcakes@smoe.org > Subject: Carly Has Retired! > > I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that > Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her > health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life > and will retire from the music industry. > > I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is just a > rumor. > > Rob > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:11:35 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! This was mentioned last year-and Carly confirmed she had resigned with Arista. bw colin Robert Minks wrote: > I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that > Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her > health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life > and will retire from the music industry. > > I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is just a > rumor. > > Rob > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:03:24 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: RE: Carly Has Retired! I think it is very selfish of her to retire like this on a whim. Especially after she promised us a new album. Doesn't she realize how important her music is to some of us? You support someone for years and years, buying their CDs and then they show NO gratitude at all. It's really sad. Adel >From owner-hotcakes@smoe.org Thu Dec 03 11:42:08 1998 >Received: from [24.128.1.71] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail30901668951743506532495411042119470200; Thu Dec 03 11:42:08 1998 >Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) > by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24512; > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:39:38 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id OAA01563; > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:35 -0500 (EST) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:35 - -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id OAA01552 > for hotcakes-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:09 -0500 (EST) >Received: from exchange.undp.org.br (internet.undp.org.br [200.19.116.98]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id OAA01543 > for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:37:49 -0500 (EST) >Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > id ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:35:19 -0200 >Message-ID: <775AD3CED141D211AFC200805F3114B2147E3A@EXCHANGE> >From: Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel >To: hotcakes@smoe.org >Subject: RE: Carly Has Retired! >Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:33:39 -0200 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Sender: owner-hotcakes@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > > >Jesus! This sounds like the worst news in a long time (and I've come across >many bad news lately). Even if it's not a rumor, who knows it may be >temporary. She needs time to recover, recharge... If not, her legacy is >already more than we deserve. >Best to all. > >Ana > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Minks [SMTP:robminks@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 5:28 PM > To: hotcakes@smoe.org > Subject: Carly Has Retired! > > I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that > Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her > health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life > and will retire from the music industry. > > I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is >just a > rumor. > > Rob > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:08:05 PST From: "Adel Perkins" Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! <> The thing that is so annoying about all this is that Carly did not "resign" from Arista. She was fired. They were disappointed in her sales and had no gratitude for all the work she had done so they told her "good-bye!" Of course, both she and they say she resigned but that is a crock. Like any star worth their salt is going to "CHOSE" to peddle their CDs over the Internet like some 8th grader playing drums in thier parent's garage! And now she just quits the business all together in some kind of tantrum depriving us of the new album! I'm really upset about this. This is really NOT fair. Adel >From owner-hotcakes@smoe.org Thu Dec 3 16:25:37 1998 >Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) > by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17321; > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:17:09 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id TAA09114; > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:13:18 -0500 (EST) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:13:17 - -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id TAA09059 > for hotcakes-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:12:17 -0500 (EST) >Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id TAA09048 > for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:12:05 -0500 (EST) >Received: from [158.152.87.112] (helo=ethericcats.demon.co.uk) > by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.054 #1) > id 0zliqd-0007c4-00; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:11:51 +0000 >Message-ID: <366728B7.B70712B4@ethericcats.demon.co.uk> >Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:11:35 +0000 >From: catman >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Robert Minks >CC: hotcakes@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! >References: <19981203192820.19145.qmail@hotmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Sender: owner-hotcakes@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by chmls06.mediaone.net id TAA17321 > >This was mentioned last year-and Carly confirmed she had resigned with >Arista. > >bw >colin > >Robert Minks wrote: > >> I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that >> Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her >> health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life >> and will retire from the music industry. >> >> I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is just = >a >> rumor. >> >> Rob >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >-- >CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST >http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html >TANTRA=92S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS >http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 03:15:35 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! Oops that should have been re-signed in that she re-newed her contract with them! at lesast that what what was said last uyear on AOl I believe. She signed a new contract. Adel Perkins wrote: > < withArista.>> > > The thing that is so annoying about all this is that Carly did not > "resign" from Arista. She was fired. They were disappointed in her > sales and had no gratitude for all the work she had done so they told > her "good-bye!" Of course, both she and they say she resigned but that > is a crock. Like any star worth their salt is going to "CHOSE" to > peddle their CDs over the Internet like some 8th grader playing drums in > thier parent's garage! And now she just quits the business all together > in some kind of tantrum depriving us of the new album! I'm really upset > about this. This is really NOT fair. > > Adel > > >From owner-hotcakes@smoe.org Thu Dec 3 16:25:37 1998 > >Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) > > by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17321; > > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:17:09 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id TAA09114; > > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:13:18 -0500 (EST) > >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:13:17 > -0500 > >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id TAA09059 > > for hotcakes-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:12:17 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net > [194.217.242.27]) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id TAA09048 > > for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:12:05 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from [158.152.87.112] (helo=ethericcats.demon.co.uk) > > by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.054 #1) > > id 0zliqd-0007c4-00; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:11:51 +0000 > >Message-ID: <366728B7.B70712B4@ethericcats.demon.co.uk> > >Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:11:35 +0000 > >From: catman > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >To: Robert Minks > >CC: hotcakes@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! > >References: <19981203192820.19145.qmail@hotmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Sender: owner-hotcakes@smoe.org > >Precedence: bulk > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by > chmls06.mediaone.net id TAA17321 > > > >This was mentioned last year-and Carly confirmed she had resigned with > >Arista. > > > >bw > >colin > > > >Robert Minks wrote: > > > >> I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that > >> Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her > >> health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life > >> and will retire from the music industry. > >> > >> I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is > just = > >a > >> rumor. > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> ______________________________________________________ > >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >-- > >CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST > >http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html > >TANTRA=92S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS > >http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 03:18:31 +0000 From: catman Subject: Re: Carly Has Retired! I completely disagree. Carly owes us nothing at all. Also, if it were true, she may need all her strength to recover from her cancer. However, as she is a creative person i would have thought the desire to create and express herelf would be much stronger now in her difficult time. For that reason, I would find it difficult to believe she would quit. Adel Perkins wrote: > I think it is very selfish of her to retire like this on a whim. > Especially after she promised us a new album. Doesn't she realize how > important her music is to some of us? You support someone for years and > years, buying their CDs and then they show NO gratitude at all. It's > really sad. > > Adel > > >From owner-hotcakes@smoe.org Thu Dec 03 11:42:08 1998 > >Received: from [24.128.1.71] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id > MHotMail30901668951743506532495411042119470200; Thu Dec 03 11:42:08 1998 > >Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) > > by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24512; > > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:39:38 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id OAA01563; > > Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:35 -0500 (EST) > >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:35 > -0500 > >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id OAA01552 > > for hotcakes-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:38:09 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from exchange.undp.org.br (internet.undp.org.br > [200.19.116.98]) > > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id OAA01543 > > for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:37:49 -0500 (EST) > >Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > > id ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:35:19 -0200 > >Message-ID: <775AD3CED141D211AFC200805F3114B2147E3A@EXCHANGE> > >From: Ana Lucia Schettini Elahel > >To: hotcakes@smoe.org > >Subject: RE: Carly Has Retired! > >Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:33:39 -0200 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Sender: owner-hotcakes@smoe.org > >Precedence: bulk > > > > > >Jesus! This sounds like the worst news in a long time (and I've come > across > >many bad news lately). Even if it's not a rumor, who knows it may be > >temporary. She needs time to recover, recharge... If not, her legacy is > >already more than we deserve. > >Best to all. > > > >Ana > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Minks [SMTP:robminks@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 5:28 PM > > To: hotcakes@smoe.org > > Subject: Carly Has Retired! > > > > I am so upset....I just heard some bad news from a friend that > > Carly will not sign a new record deal with Arista, and after her > > health situation, has taken stock of what is important in her life > > and will retire from the music industry. > > > > I wanted to report this as it is what I heard. Let's hope this is > >just a > > rumor. > > > > Rob > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -- CARLY SIMON DISCUSSION LIST http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html TANTRA’S/ETHERIC PERSIANS AND HIMALAYANS http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk ------------------------------ End of hotcakes-digest V1 #86 *****************************