From: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org (hotcakes-digest) To: hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Subject: hotcakes-digest V1 #6 Reply-To: hotcakes@smoe.org Sender: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-hotcakes-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk hotcakes-digest Sunday, July 26 1998 Volume 01 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Hi all [catman ] Re: Hi all [MGVal@aol.com] Re: Hi all [catman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:33:22 +0100 From: catman Subject: Hi all Well, I am just about over my flu. Still all bunged up but at least I can move! Given plenty of oppotunity to laze around and just listen to music. On the Clouds In My Coffee collection, I love Angel From Montgomery and Play With Me. The raunchiness of her voice is astounding. The amazing thing about Carly's voice is that it has not changed, unlike tthe voices of other singers that have stayed the course. I always thought her voice sounded so grown up when she first started. Now in her 50's her voice sounds just as good, if anything, richer. The two tracks I mentioned earlier are years old and so she would have been very young when she recorded them. Yet her voice is rich and powerful and very mature. I do love it when Carly belts out a song. I really enjoy Nightowl for this reason. Then she also belts on other songs but with less of an edge, as befits the song. Lost In Your Love from LNS comes to mind. Not only do I love this song and the way she sings it, but I also adore the sax she uses on it. It really touches me. Carly uses sax quite a lot and I for one love the sound of it-it is so appropriate. When used on sad songs, it sounds like a heart ripping or something. bw catman - -- Living is the process whereby we create the structures we call meaning. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk Carly Simon Discussion List http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:49:09 EDT From: MGVal@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi all In a message dated 98-07-25 07:38:54 EDT, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk writes: >The amazing >thing about Carly's voice is that it has not changed, unlike tthe voices >of other singers that have stayed the course. I always thought her voice >sounded so grown up when she first started I cannot argue with this observation. I never thought along those lines, but now that I think about it, the "grown up" quality is there. That alto! It was very rich from the get-go and the only change seems to be that it is richer. Other singers seem to go from a higher pitched voice to a deeper one. (heady words from a gal who is partially deaf!). On her boxed set, if one doesn't know their Carly chronology, I think that they would be hard pressed to put them in date order. I have had a hard time enjoying her version of Angel from Montgomery, though. Bonnie Raitt's rendition is just too etched in my head. I'm a fan of "Torch." I love the way she belts out those big band songs and while I should be above the personal gossip, the alledged fact that she put the album together during her final break-up w/ James Taylor colors it to a certain extent. "What Shall We Do With The Child," is a real favorite.. As a life-time, dues paying member of the "what could have been" club, that song breaks my heart. MG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:23:12 +0100 From: catman Subject: Re: Hi all MGVal@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 98-07-25 07:38:54 EDT, catman@ethericcats.demon.co.uk > writes: > > >The amazing > >thing about Carly's voice is that it has not changed, unlike tthe voices > >of other singers that have stayed the course. I always thought her voice > >sounded so grown up when she first started > > I cannot argue with this observation. I never thought along those lines, but > now that I think about it, the "grown up" quality is there. That alto! It was > very rich from the get-go and the only change seems to be that it is richer. > Other singers seem to go from a higher pitched voice to a deeper one. (heady > words from a gal who is partially deaf!). YES! Her alto voice just gives me goosebumbs. You know, she hits such low notes that I cannot sing them! > > > On her boxed set, if one doesn't know their Carly chronology, I think that > they would be hard pressed to put them in date order. True, I think. It is hard to tell cos I have been with her since 73. The only difference seems to be in the production techniques. > > > I have had a hard time enjoying her version of Angel from Montgomery, though. > Bonnie Raitt's rendition is just too etched in my head. Well I guess I have been lucky-I haven't heard another version! I have only once heard someone covering a Carly song-and hope never to hear a cover of her again! > > > I'm a fan of "Torch." I love the way she belts out those big band songs and > while I should be above the personal gossip, the alledged fact that she put > the album together during her final break-up w/ James Taylor colors it to a > certain extent. "What Shall We Do With The Child," is a real favorite.. As a > life-time, dues paying member of the "what could have been" club, that song > breaks my heart. Hurt from that album is my favourite. I don't know what was going on when SPY was released but when I heard that album my first thought was Carly and James were going to split. That album was released in 79. I think they split in 80. We're So Close is the song that really made me think this. I love this album and feel it was vastly underrated. It believe it bombed. It also contains the only Carly song I do not like-Coming To Get You-it grates on me.(sorry carly).SPY and Come Upstairs to me stand out as being quite different from what went before and what came after. Both albums I think were unsuccessful yet i think they are great. I love some of the harder stuff on CU. Take Me As I Am is brilliant and has one of my favourite lines ever in it-'drunk and lying with the gutter in her face'-that line is bitchy and full of pain. Her following album(self penned) Hello Big Man was a return to her earlier style. Then everything changed again with Spolied Girl, an album I like very much but was not what i expected from Carly. Coming Around again is similar in that it is highly produced. Have You Seen Me Lately and Letters Never Sent, particulalry the latter, remind me more of her earlier work. The one album that stands out to me, not only as a favourite, but because of it's different sound, is Anticipation. catman > > > MG - -- Living is the process whereby we create the structures we call meaning. http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk Carly Simon Discussion List http://www.ethericcats.demon.co.uk/ethericcats/index.html ------------------------------ End of hotcakes-digest V1 #6 ****************************