From: owner-headline-girl-digest@smoe.org (headline-girl-digest) To: headline-girl-digest@smoe.org Subject: headline-girl-digest V6 #64 Reply-To: headline-girl@smoe.org Sender: owner-headline-girl-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-headline-girl-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk headline-girl-digest Thursday, April 3 2003 Volume 06 : Number 064 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: SEC: The state of Canadian music [] Re: Simone Wilcox and Andrea Florian [Joni Daniels ] Re: EC: IOTA update [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: EC: IOTA update [Plmrrik@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 0:27:03 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: SEC: The state of Canadian music > If there is an invasion underway, it's not something the American > public at large is aware of nor cares about. And that I think, is probably > the most important argument against it. I don't mean to stir the pot, but I guess I will when I say that the above quotiation from Greg's email seems to me to be a pretty "American" opinion. I don't mean to generalize at all and I'm not saying that ALL Americans agree with him, but those sentences alone make me somewhat angry. Just because the American pubic doesn't care or isn't away of Canadian music does not mean that a Canadian Invasion (whether it exists or not) is underway. There are other countries other than the US that exist. This isn't an anti-American, it's just a fact that I'd like ot point out. The American public may not care Mr. Telschik and I don't expect all of you to look outside of the American bubble for musical enlightenment. I personally care far more about the British music industry than the American scene. On a semi-un-related note not directed at Teltschik, consider this: Canadian indie bands such as Royal City, Broken Social Scene and Hot Hot Heat signing to record deals outside of Canada--and outside of the US (save for HHH). This is new, we're not talking about Celine (zee best zinger in zee world) Dion or Anne "I look like a Chipmunk" Murray. Think outside the mainstream box and maybe you'll see that Canadian music might actually be something on the verge of a bigger thing that's more than top 10 hits and Grammy awards. I'm talking about quality not quantity. - - Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 23:20:55 -0500 From: Joni Daniels Subject: Re: Simone Wilcox and Andrea Florian Nicole wrote: I can't seem to find any information on the internet for Simone Wilcox Her name is actually Simon Wilcox and you'll find her here: http://simonwilcox.com/index2.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: dana wagner Subject: EC: Village Voice short preview for NYC show! headline girls and boys, check out what the village voice had to say about emm in this week's issue (in preview for her show at the village underground next week)! "Emm Gryner is absolutely beautiful, and has a voice to match. Her last CD, Asianblue, has more than its share of should-have-been hit power pop-rock tunes. Guaranteed future star." Hope to see many of you at the shows this coming week! Once again, the NYC show is all ages, and starts at 8pm. You can still get tix in advance at www.ticketweb.com or at the venue, but they're selling quickly so do make sure to get them in advance! Emm's last show there, with Leona Naess, sold out! FYI- in case anyone missed hearing it, Emm will be with her full band for the Philly, NYC, and Boston shows. A real treat for us U.S. fans who rarely get to see her with the band, so do come out and show your support. dana Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:36:59 -0600 From: Greg Teltschik Subject: Re: Re: SEC: The state of Canadian music At 12:27 AM 4/2/2003 -0500, andreachiu@sympatico.ca wrote: > > If there is an invasion underway, it's not something the American > > public at large is aware of nor cares about. And that I think, is probably > > the most important argument against it. > >I don't mean to stir the pot, but I guess I will when I say that the above >quotiation from Greg's email seems to me to be a pretty "American" >opinion. I don't mean to generalize at all and I'm not saying that ALL >Americans agree with him, but those sentences alone make me somewhat >angry. Just because the American pubic doesn't care or isn't away of >Canadian music does not mean that a Canadian Invasion (whether it exists >or not) is underway. There are other countries other than the US that >exist. This isn't an anti-American, it's just a fact that I'd like ot >point out. I think you misread the point. It's not that American's don't care about Canadian music. They don't care if the music came from Canada, the UK, Sweden, or wherever. In general, the American public accepts music from all corners of the globe and doesn't seek to put it into nice, neat categories. In the case of Canadian music, most Americans have no idea that the acts are Canadian (until someone points it out). Country of origin is not a primary motivating factor in the music decision. My argument, if you follow it, is that given that there is no mass awareness of a "Canadian invasion," there are no big media stories about it, and there is not a preponderance of evidence that suggests Canadian artists are monopolizing the American music industry, I don't see a "Canadian Invasion" taking place. I would argue that the number of Canadian artists doing well in the US is not significantly greater than it has been at any other time in history. I don't have numbers to back up my claim, but nor do I hear talk about a "Canadian sound" much as was mentioned during the "British Invasion" of the 60s about the "British sound." To restate what I said in my earlier post, "it's [Canadian music] not something the American public at large is aware of [as a major force in music] nor cares about [the country of origin (not necessarily Canada)]. And that I think, is probably the most important argument against it [a Canadian invasion]." I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I seem to be getting really good at pissing off Canadians. Or maybe it's that they have so many buttons. Greg Teltschik gteltschik@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 06:50:34 -0500 From: "Nicky Rheaume" Subject: RE: Village Voice short preview for NYC show! Plus, check out Boston's Weekly Dig this week. There's a rave review of Emm's work. www.weeklydig.com and it's right on the main page. If you're planning on going to Emm's House of Blues show, I strongly recommend getting advance tickets at www.hob.com/tickets . I am so excited for these shows! Nicky - -----Original Message----- From: owner-headline-girl@smoe.org [mailto:owner-headline-girl@smoe.org]On Behalf Of dana wagner Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:59 AM To: headline-girl@smoe.org Subject: EC: Village Voice short preview for NYC show! headline girls and boys, check out what the village voice had to say about emm in this week's issue (in preview for her show at the village underground next week)! "Emm Gryner is absolutely beautiful, and has a voice to match. Her last CD, Asianblue, has more than its share of should-have-been hit power pop-rock tunes. Guaranteed future star." Hope to see many of you at the shows this coming week! Once again, the NYC show is all ages, and starts at 8pm. You can still get tix in advance at www.ticketweb.com or at the venue, but they're selling quickly so do make sure to get them in advance! Emm's last show there, with Leona Naess, sold out! FYI- in case anyone missed hearing it, Emm will be with her full band for the Philly, NYC, and Boston shows. A real treat for us U.S. fans who rarely get to see her with the band, so do come out and show your support. dana Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 10:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Julian C. Dunn" Subject: Re: Re: SEC: The state of Canadian music On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Greg Teltschik wrote: > I think you misread the point. It's not that American's don't care about > Canadian music. They don't care if the music came from Canada, the UK, > Sweden, or wherever. In general, the American public accepts music from > all corners of the globe and doesn't seek to put it into nice, neat > categories. In the case of Canadian music, most Americans have no idea On one hand, I agree with you -- there are definitely a lot of Americans out there who couldn't give two hoots where the music came from. But when we talk about the "invasion" of a certain kind of music I always think of those people who deliberately go and search out a certain sound which is categorized by a country label -- I'm thinking "Britpop" for example. People will now deliberately pay more attention to a particular band from the UK because they could be the next "The Strokes" for example. As such the issue that I would have with Andy's article is that it takes a very insular standpoint, which may be fine for the type of audience that she's aiming it towards, namely educated college kids, but I wouldn't generalize it across the board. > I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I seem to be getting really good at > pissing off Canadians. Or maybe it's that they have so many buttons. ... to undo. :-P~~ - - Julian - -- | Julian C. Dunn | | WWW: http://www.aquezada.com/staff/julian/ | | "I've got love and anger, they come as a pair" -- Aimee Mann | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 22:20:29 -0500 From: "Gretchen Corl" Subject: EC: IOTA update As some very clever Headliner predicted about a week ago....yes, the lovely Kim Fox will be playing with Emm on Sunday, April 20 in our war-weary town of Arlington just outside of DC. Please check her out at www.kim-fox.com and pass the word! Show should start around 8:30PM. thanks, gretchen - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:27:20 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: EC: IOTA update On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:20:29PM -0500, Gretchen Corl wrote: > As some very clever Headliner predicted about a week ago....yes, the > lovely Kim Fox will be playing with Emm on Sunday, April 20 in our > war-weary town of Arlington just outside of DC. Please check her out at > www.kim-fox.com and pass the word! Show should start around 8:30PM. Ooh, Kim Fox is great! I've been a fan of hers since her debut album (Moon Hut) years ago. - -j ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 23:41:41 EST From: Plmrrik@aol.com Subject: Re: EC: IOTA update I remember seeing Kim Fox at Lilith Fair '97 on the small stage. She was one of the first performers in the afternoon and drew a small crowd, but that didn't stop her enthusiasm. She was quite enjoyable, but hadn't heard from her since. Glad to hear she's still pluggin away. Kim and emm 4/20, Should be a good show. Kim will be in Cleveland (my home town) on the 18th, but sadly :-( not with Emm. ----Rick---- ------------------------------ End of headline-girl-digest V6 #64 **********************************