From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V8 #27 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Wednesday, July 30 2003 Volume 08 : Number 027 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- Re: (harbinger) paula a has been? [". ." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:15:34 +0000 From: ". ." Subject: Re: (harbinger) paula a has been? I met up with Jay Bellerose a couple of months ago. I had asked him if we can expect a new album from Paula anytime soon. He said they finished an album last fall, but the record company rejected it. Apparently it wasn't what they were looking for. He said she is working on some new material with the help of a couple writers and expects to resubmit the album later this year. - - Dan B. (whose last post to this list was probably five years ago.) >From: >Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org >To: >Subject: (harbinger) paula a has been? >Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 14:17:24 +0300 > >Comments below: > >BRI: I must admit that I'm pretty annoyed with this whole Paula thing. I >love her to death but seems like she's becoming a has been. > >STEVEN: I dont know if the "has been" is true, but its fair. Many people >think of her as Merideth "Bitch" Brooks or Joan Osbourne as having a couple >of cool songs, but where are they now. (although Joan's new cover album >ROCKS!)Those who do think of Paula often joke about the armpit hair or >complain about how COWBOYS and WAIT were overplayed. You cant even find >the video for IBIL online. (VH1/Yahoo both have other vids from This Fire, >but nothing from AMEN. Funny, her website doesnt either (and pulled off >any listening samples) > >I also dont think its fair, in that I think Paula still has a lot to sing >that many people want to hear. > >I think she's done everything in her power. She recorded the new album >while pregnant and was ready to tour with it 3 months after the birth. Its >not like she took a sabbatical on her own terms like McLachlan did. She >doesnt have any control over when her album is released. She's probably >more frustrated about it than we are. > >BUT...I know she lost a LOT of dedicated fans when she badmouthed Sarah >McLachlan. Paula was really bitter about the Lilith Fair "only" benefiting >Sarah and has said a couple of rude things about her. Not sure if she and >sarah still keep in touch. I hope they do, since I loved hearing them sing >together at those pre-lilith shows and thought they complimented each >others music nicely. > >BRI: Her album ended up being trashed >by WB, > >STEVEN: Is it trashed? I saw a release date for Fall (no title). I didnt >think the whole album was trashed, WB just didnt trust they had enough hit >singles to justify putting the marketing money and muscle behind it and >wanted her to continue to write. That makes me sad that labels cannot see >100,000-500,000 sales as successes for long term building of artists. But >thats another thread. > >BRI: her song cut from the Dolly tribute album. > >STEVEN: Anyone know if it is politics (WB not allowing it), marketing (the >albums label feeling paula's song/name wasnt a strong enough draw), or >other factors? Again, I dont think this is Paula's fault. She is probably >devestated since she is such a fan of Dolly. > >BRI: I love Paula to death, but even reading her last post from Feb on her >site, she sounds like she's still on her high horse. I really wish she >would get off the soap box, return to being humble, write some good music > >STEVEN: I agree that maybe its time to write such great music that people >want to listen to the message in interviews. Without a fantastic album to >support, no one really cares what an artists views are. Sad. > >I admire Paula for having the balls to be outspoken. But I think the >biggest problem is she might have thought that she was more established >than she was and her fans would be more loyal. > >I admire her for wanting to speak out about her politic views, but was a >bit embarrassed that the song MR PRESIDENT was just not very good. Dixie >Chicks make a fairly tame statement and are cruicified. Paula writes about >Bush "cum-ing in oil" (did I hear that right?) and is virtually ignored. >Many other websites posted the political songs of Jonatha Brooke (free mp3 >new arrangment of WAR on her site), REM, etc, but there was no press for MR >PRES. Maybe that was a good thing. > >I also REALLY admire her for trying to keep in contact with her fans >through the website with her updates. It should have given us something to >discuss and talk about. (courtney, michael jackson, politics at WB, etc) >But no one really seemed to take the bait. > >But, yeah, if she wants to continue to have a career, it might be good to >lay low for awhile and then speak up when she has a platform again (if that >is what is important to her.) > >and put it out on an indie label while she still has some money. > >STEVEN: impossible. She is still under a 7 album contract with Imago/WB. >Even if she wanted to, she couldnt unless they free her. Probably not >going to happen since they lost so much money with AMEN. > >Has anyone heard anything about her >lately? How she's doing? What she's doing? What's coming up next? I miss >her to death and hope she comes out wiht something outstanding soon to make >up >for the lack in good music. > >STEVEN: Paula is no longer listed on the WB Music website. (either under >Cole, Paula or Paula Cole Band.) > >We've heard about the duet with Aretha. Wish it would go on Aretha's >upcoming album instead of Paula's (I think it would get more respect >there...no pun intended.) And I hope some idiot doesnt tell her to save it >for a soundtrack like they did with Heart Door w Dolly. > >I am anxiously awaiting another album from her. Hope I am blown away, >cause I think she doesnt have many more chances to bounce back. > >Steven from Helsinki > >------------------------------ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe harbinger > >Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will >work for your EVERY time. > >Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: >http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V8 #27 ******************************