From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V6 #18 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Wednesday, March 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 018 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- Re: (harbinger) Re: [Kelly Murphy ] Re: (harbinger) Re: ["Paula" ] Re: (harbinger) Re: [Momrox1@aol.com] (harbinger) Babies Selling CDs ["James R Sutton" ] (harbinger) bootlegging [Jimmy Mac ] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging ["Paula" ] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging [Hignface@aol.com] (harbinger) olive branch [Hignface@aol.com] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging [Jimmy Mac ] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging ["Paula" ] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging [Kelly Murphy ] Re: (harbinger) bootlegging ["Chris Povie" ] (harbinger) stop the madness! ["jill blasy" ] Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! ["Paula" ] Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! ["Paula" ] Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! [Honoku@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:02:53 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Murphy Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Its funny how this person comes on here, and starts all this crap.....and has absolutely no idea how close the person they're harrassing is to Paula....wrong list to start this crap on, eh? Just goes to show, you never know who you're talking to when it comes to stuff like this.... Later, Kelly ===== SPY PROMOTIONS: http://www.spypromotions.com STEREO TYPE MUSIC GROUP: http://www.stereotypemusic.com Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:32:29 -0500 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: :) Thanks Kelly....I didn't want to say that myself..but I'm glad you did. Paula R - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Murphy To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: > Its funny how this person comes on here, and > starts all this crap.....and has absolutely no > idea how close the person they're harrassing is > to Paula....wrong list to start this crap on, eh? > Just goes to show, you never know who you're > talking to when it comes to stuff like this.... > Later, > Kelly > > ===== > SPY PROMOTIONS: http://www.spypromotions.com > STEREO TYPE MUSIC GROUP: http://www.stereotypemusic.com > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:29:28 EST From: Momrox1@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: To the person who jumped blindly into this list and left his brains at home- Go away- (totally my opinion-Not the lists) This is NOT the list to harass people on-especially if you don't know them or what they are like. Paula was expressing an opinion about the way she feels about people making money when the artist is making none. This should be responded to in a mature adult manner. As has been done in the past. I noticed in your aol profile you rate yourself as Paulas #1 fan and your quote is "hatred only kills your souls". You are slowly killing yourself. Judy-in support of Paulajr - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:59:45 -0800 From: "James R Sutton" Subject: (harbinger) Babies Selling CDs Greetings, > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:52:19 > From: "Dave Seymour" > But my question is this, how much different is this (a person trying to sell > a bootleg disc?) from people offering bootleg copies of Paula related stuff > for swaps such as the guy (Ken I believe) recently who offered to do copies > of the 'Be Somebody' video if it was voted for enough? There's a considerable difference actually. Trading Paula's live recordings and other officially unavailable media amoung fans is much different than someone selling and/or profiting from these items. I responed to both of the posts regarding this live recording as I was interested in hearing it. Unfortunately, neither would actually identify themselves. One wanted $25 for a copy and the other never properly responded. I will never buy any Paula Cole item unless it's sold by Paula or her label. I have no problem with trading amoung fans though. > I don't condone it, but hey cut the guy break. Actually we're not dealing with a guy here. My impression is that we're dealing with someone under the age of 18 which I would consider a child. > From: > i'm talking about selling it......not for a lot though $25 is a lot and a little newsflash for you, it's illegal. I know the cost of CD-Rs and there's about a 98% profit here. < bitch >> lol! This is great. What are these "facts" we supposedly don't have? You're selling a CD of a live Paula Cole recording. This isn't rocket science. What's with the u and ur abbreviations....are you Prince? My $.01, James Sutton - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:02:26 -0500 From: Jimmy Mac Subject: (harbinger) bootlegging I agree with Paula R., keep your shady transactions off this list. Try pulling it on E-Bay, you'd get your butt booted (sorry, couldn't resist). I must admit, I've bootlegged a concert or two in my day (including one Paula show). These recordings were made by myself in good conscience because I'd already purchased all available recordings by the artists, and I had no intent of selling the recording to anyone at any future date. Paula, "ur" position is admirable and "ur" a great advocate of Paula and all the other hard working musicians out there. Isn't that an ancient civilization in Mesopotamia? ;-) JMMJ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:36:58 -0500 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging Hi :) Thanks to everyone...i was beginning to think that perhaps i spoke up when i shouldn't have..but all of you have appeared to make me feel good about what I said. Most of you know my connection with the band, and how much I care about their success. Even without that, however, I AM a musician, and I know how hard recording musicians work for their money. Even when one has "made it", they deserve their just rewards. Harbinger list has been a great meeting ground, and this kid was trying to do something that was generally not accepted here. I think the thing that bugged me the most, however, was the fact that he sent me private emails, calling me names, but not defending his position. This list is to air our differences or agreements, maturely, and openly. I didn't post my first comments to get sworn at ...just to make a point! thanks to all..and to you Jimmy Mac :) paula R - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Mac To: harbinger list Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:02 PM Subject: (harbinger) bootlegging > I agree with Paula R., keep your shady transactions off this list. Try > pulling it on E-Bay, you'd get your butt booted (sorry, couldn't > resist). > > I must admit, I've bootlegged a concert or two in my day (including one > Paula show). These recordings were made by myself in good conscience > because I'd already purchased all available recordings by the artists, > and I had no intent of selling the recording to anyone at any future > date. > > Paula, "ur" position is admirable and "ur" a great advocate of Paula and > all the other hard working musicians out there. Isn't that an ancient > civilization in Mesopotamia? ;-) > > JMMJ > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:25:23 EST From: Hignface@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging you know i dont care what anyone has to say......this is a free country and i can do whatever i want or say.....and speaking of royalties Paula jr...dont you think you should pay paula cole some royalties for pretending to be her or close to her or something and perhaps using her name?? and i was just trying to get this really great show out to people who may not have had the chance to listen to her live.....because paula cole really shines live....something that we dont get on her studio album....but since you people are so pissy about it then i wont sell it.....infact i'll keep it for my own enjoyment....its really sad the way some of you people are.....and not to mention cheap....and since you all are so anti-bootlegging i hope none of you are/were using napster because if you are/were then you are all hypocrites......i know paula would not have been mad about this....because that woman has a heart of gold not a heart of shit like most of you here.....and since i'm on this list....you'll all be hearing a lot more of me....and i have no intentions of leaving soon.....until next time.....adios - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:46:42 EST From: Hignface@aol.com Subject: (harbinger) olive branch Hey y'all.......we're all here to celebrate Paula Cole's music and to talk about it.....When i joined this list i had no intentions of starting trouble....since it seems that is what happened.....i'd just like to apologize to everyone.....i dont want to be the "bad" person on this list.....i'd just like to end this anger between some of you and me.....and i'm hoping that you all could start being civil to me and stop the name calling as i will do the same to you....also i'd like to publicly say sorry to Paulajr for calling you some not so nice names.....hope you people can get over our earlier encounter and look toward the future for great paula news and music......bye - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:25:40 -0500 From: Jimmy Mac Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging > comments to get sworn at ...just to make a point! > thanks to all..and to you Jimmy Mac :) > paula R UR welcome!!!! - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:09:15 -0500 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging <<.....and speaking of royalties Paula jr...dont > you think you should pay paula cole some royalties for pretending to be her > or close to her or something and perhaps using her name?? >> this is hysterical!!! once i stop laughing, maybe i'll think of a way to respond to this posting, but right now i'm just laughing !! paulaR - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging > you know i dont care what anyone has to say......this is a free country and i > can do whatever i want or say.....and speaking of royalties Paula jr...dont > you think you should pay paula cole some royalties for pretending to be her > or close to her or something and perhaps using her name?? and i was just > trying to get this really great show out to people who may not have had the > chance to listen to her live.....because paula cole really shines > live....something that we dont get on her studio album....but since you > people are so pissy about it then i wont sell it.....infact i'll keep it for > my own enjoyment....its really sad the way some of you people are.....and not > to mention cheap....and since you all are so anti-bootlegging i hope none of > you are/were using napster because if you are/were then you are all > hypocrites......i know paula would not have been mad about this....because > that woman has a heart of gold not a heart of shit like most of you > here.....and since i'm on this list....you'll all be hearing a lot more of > me....and i have no intentions of leaving soon.....until next time.....adios > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:52:16 -0800 (PST) From: Kelly Murphy Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging Oh my, you are SO correct - Paula is the only person in the WORLD that can have that name. Not sure how long you have been on this list, but you do have some things to learn. Paula (not Cole) HAS a legit connection to the band, she doesn't have to flaunt it, no one on this list that has connections to Paula or Kevin or Jay have to flaunt it, we all know it and respect it. I suggest you do the same....... Later, Kelly <> ===== SPY PROMOTIONS: http://www.spypromotions.com STEREO TYPE MUSIC GROUP: http://www.stereotypemusic.com Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:54:56 -0500 From: "Chris Povie" Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging hey moron...how old are you?!?!? Where the Hell is Jason G when you need him. Hey Kenn...still alive? shoot me a line will ya? CP - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: (harbinger) bootlegging > you know i dont care what anyone has to say......this is a free country and i > can do whatever i want or say.....and speaking of royalties Paula jr...dont > you think you should pay paula cole some royalties for pretending to be her > or close to her or something and perhaps using her name?? and i was just > trying to get this really great show out to people who may not have had the > chance to listen to her live.....because paula cole really shines > live....something that we dont get on her studio album....but since you > people are so pissy about it then i wont sell it.....infact i'll keep it for > my own enjoyment....its really sad the way some of you people are.....and not > to mention cheap....and since you all are so anti-bootlegging i hope none of > you are/were using napster because if you are/were then you are all > hypocrites......i know paula would not have been mad about this....because > that woman has a heart of gold not a heart of shit like most of you > here.....and since i'm on this list....you'll all be hearing a lot more of > me....and i have no intentions of leaving soon.....until next time.....adios > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:18:23 -0600 From: "jill blasy" Subject: (harbinger) stop the madness! hi it has been quite a while since i have posted a message but i am tired of reading about finger pointing and opinions of how you feel about other list members. paula's list has been dead for quite a while but i am sorry that it had to take cruel remarks to make people speak up. if you are going to use the list for pointing fingers please change the subject so i know to delete it beforehand. if you have an opinion about bootlegging that is a different subject. you are entitled to your opinion but some things are meant to be between two people and not the rest of the list. i really do not want to read 12 messages of fingerpointing under the same subject. if you think i am wrong in what i am saying you have the right to your opinion but email me personally and not the list. thanks:) keep smiling everyone jb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:48:41 -0500 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! so Jill, why don't you tell us WHAT your opinion on the subject is? - ----- Original Message ----- From: jill blasy To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: (harbinger) stop the madness! > hi it has been quite a while since i have posted a message but i am > tired of reading about finger pointing and opinions of how you feel about > other list members. paula's list has been dead for quite a while but i > am sorry that it had to take cruel remarks to make people speak up. if > you are going to use the list for pointing fingers please change the > subject so i know to delete it beforehand. if you have an opinion about > bootlegging that is a different subject. you are entitled to your > opinion but some things are meant to be between two people and not the > rest of the list. i really do not want to read 12 messages of > fingerpointing under the same subject. if you think i am wrong in what i > am saying you have the right to your opinion but email me personally and > not the list. thanks:) keep smiling everyone jb > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:27:46 -0500 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! that didn't come out right...It sounds as if I was mad or something..and I'm not! I just wanted to know your opinion on the selling of bootlegs..sorry if it sounded abrupt! I must be tired!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! > so Jill, why don't you tell us WHAT your opinion on the subject is? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jill blasy > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:18 PM > Subject: (harbinger) stop the madness! > > > > hi it has been quite a while since i have posted a message but i am > > tired of reading about finger pointing and opinions of how you feel about > > other list members. paula's list has been dead for quite a while but i > > am sorry that it had to take cruel remarks to make people speak up. if > > you are going to use the list for pointing fingers please change the > > subject so i know to delete it beforehand. if you have an opinion about > > bootlegging that is a different subject. you are entitled to your > > opinion but some things are meant to be between two people and not the > > rest of the list. i really do not want to read 12 messages of > > fingerpointing under the same subject. if you think i am wrong in what i > > am saying you have the right to your opinion but email me personally and > > not the list. thanks:) keep smiling everyone jb > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe harbinger > > > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > > work for your EVERY time. > > > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:55:41 EST From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) stop the madness! In a message dated 3/6/2001 8:30:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, jkblasy@hotmail.com writes: > . if you think i am wrong in what i > am saying you have the right to your opinion but email me personally and > not the list. thanks:) keep smiling everyone jb > what if i think you are right ?, and i do. bootlegging is not a new subject, i remember when we all shared where it was we could get some good ones. i like my bootlegs, and i also own every legitimate bit of music put out. i go to shows when ever i can, and in my appreciation and enthusiasm, turn friends on to paula's music. the rest of this stuff is silly fur flying ego crap. steve - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. 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