From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V5 #141 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Friday, September 1 2000 Volume 05 : Number 141 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? [Kara & Tina ] Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? ["Paula" ] (harbinger) The Book Of Ruth ["Kenneth Carpenter" ] Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? ["Steve Bornstein" ] (harbinger) EctoFest ["Steve Bornstein" ] (harbinger) Re: Donna Delory ["Michael Kleinert" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:06:21 -0400 From: Kara & Tina Subject: Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? Zia-you can get Donnas music at her web site(donnadelory.com) also Madonnas(madonnafanclub.com). She also sells it at every show. Hope you enjoy it! Tina - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:07:06 -0400 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? I sent a link to the website, but it didn't go through, so I'll try again. I checked really quick at amazon.com, and they had it...do a search on "bliss"..and it will come up. If they have it, then Borders.com and bn.com should have it too :) paulaR - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:03 PM Subject: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? > Is anyone here I haven't got any mail from the list since I posted... > Does anyone know where I can buy Donna De Lory's CD?? I want it so bad!!!! > > Zia > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:15:59 EDT From: "Kenneth Carpenter" Subject: (harbinger) The Book Of Ruth Just so there isn't any confusion, this post isn't about my phantom website. That's going to be The Book Of Dorothy and I don't want to talk about it right now. It has now become my new fall/winter project. We'll see if my time, money and patience hold out. ;^) Instead, this post is about _The Book Of Ruth_, which is a novel by Jane Hamilton. I bought this book a few years ago and only just now got around to reading it. I know... you're wondering 'what in the world does this have to do with Paula Cole?' Well, it doesn't have any direct correlation to Paula. So, if you're only tuning in to the list and my post looking for the hard cold Paula facts, please feel free to hit the delete key now. I'll contribute something in that vein sometime soon, but I want to share something with the literary types who hang around the list. I just finished reading _The Book Of Ruth_ this week and I was blown away by its power. Knowing that a lot of you are familiar not only with Paula's music but are also fans of Anne Tyler, Alice Hoffman and Zora Neale Hurston, I want to recommend this book to you all. It's similar in subject matter, tone and mood to some of those artists' works, but I don't think I've read anything as pure or honest as this story since I was in fourth grade and my teacher read _The Bridge To Terebithia_ to the class. Don't misunderstand... _The Book Of Ruth_ is not a children's novel. It's not a happy, feel-good story. A lot of sad events transpire. But, to me, the story is one of truth and thanksgiving. There's some kind of innocence in the way the story is told and a gentle, winsome humor, too. Like I said, it's just so real. To me, this is what honest writing really is and I can promise you that you won't often find better storytelling than this. I'm not going to give a synopsis here. You can go check out Amazon.com for that. As I said earlier, this post isn't specifically about Paula, but in my mind, I can see an indirect correlation between some of her older music and this book. In fact, once I thought about it more, I decided to listen to Harbinger and This Fire and a few demos, etc. last night to see if my idea held up under closer scrutiny. For me, it was almost like having a soundtrack for the images that went through my mind while I was reading. If you have read this book in the past or if you decide to take my recommendation and pick up a copy, try playing these songs either while you're reading or after you've finished: Bethlehem Saturn Girl Night Carmen Me Saint Quentin (it's a rarity but I know at least a few of you have it) Dear Gertrude Last November The Ladder I don't know... maybe you won't see or hear it the way I did, but I thought it was a pretty cool experience. I wanted to share the book with you anyway. If you do decide to try out the soundtrack idea, please let me know about your impressions. Kenn _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:38:48 GMT From: "Steve Bornstein" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? Hey Zia I'm not actually here . . I am about 100 miles away at yet another festival, although I an still trying to recover from the last one. That's part of the reason I haven't posted yet - lack of sleep leads to even wider rambling than usual - but I don't want to keep you waiting any longer so . . . But first - Kara&Tina are right - go to donnadelory.com - especially if you want the highest percentage of your money to go directly to the artist. Paula, I would have thought a search on "Bliss" as an artist would not work, but there you go. They have removed Bliss from their name, as there are too many other acts with similar names. The name of the ALBUM is now "Bliss" by Donna DeLory. (Used to be "On And On" by Donna DeLory and Bliss). Confused? Me too. Quiz later. Oh, and the reissue contains one new song, as well as a different sequence, and new artwork - it's sort of maroon or brick red, with Chinese/Japanese characters to the side of a picture of Donna's face and arms stretched overhead. Lastly, their manager told me this album is going to be transformed yet again once a distribution deal is reached. I wish they would just get to work on an altogether new one! I did indeed stop by Fez in NY for their show. We were seated very close to the stage, close enough that Donna recognized me when she came out. It was a very strong set, harder rocking than usual, and she included three new songs. Jay did indeed play drums (no Quinn), and on bass they had Mark Gorman, who tended to play a more rhythmic role than melodic. "On And On" got reworked, along the lines of the remix by Junior Vasquez (just passing this along, don't know anything more). It started with the usual dreamy treatment, then halfway through started switching gears in an oddly arranged transitional section, then became a dance number, with big backbeat and pounding bass. Not the way I'd do it, of course, but they all seemed to be having fun with it. There were other songs that they did in a more forceful manner than before, and I wonder if opening for Paula had influenced her in this regard. Anyway, their manager also thought this was one of the hottest shows they'd ever done, so I'll abide by her better-informed opinion. BTW, Gerry Leonard, textural guitarist, opened with a set of mostly instrumental, mostly ambient pieces, with Jay on drums and a bass player whose name I didn't get. Although I've admired his work (what little I know of it) as sideman and producer, as a frontman he failed to really catch fire. It was interesting, though, to hear someone produce all these effects-laden sounds using a nylon-string acoustic guitar. Chatted briefly with them afterward. I said hi to Jay for you, Ms Remick ;-) which brought a smile to his face. Peace JourneyBear _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:05:54 -0400 From: "Paula" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? gee..thanks for passing on my hello to Jay..he's a great guy. anyway...When I searched for Donna's album on Amazon, I put in "DeLory" and got NOTHING, so I thought I'd try Bliss..since I knew that was the name of the album..and bingo..thats how I found it. Thats all for now, cause I'm in deep depression watching Andre Agassi losing in the 2nd round of the US open :( paulaR - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Bornstein To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: Re: (harbinger) Is anyone here?? > Hey Zia > > I'm not actually here . . I am about 100 miles away at yet another festival, > although I an still trying to recover from the last one. That's part of the > reason I haven't posted yet - lack of sleep leads to even wider rambling > than usual - but I don't want to keep you waiting any longer so . . . > > But first - Kara&Tina are right - go to donnadelory.com - especially if you > want the highest percentage of your money to go directly to the artist. > Paula, I would have thought a search on "Bliss" as an artist would not work, > but there you go. They have removed Bliss from their name, as there are too > many other acts with similar names. The name of the ALBUM is now "Bliss" by > Donna DeLory. (Used to be "On And On" by Donna DeLory and Bliss). Confused? > Me too. Quiz later. Oh, and the reissue contains one new song, as well as a > different sequence, and new artwork - it's sort of maroon or brick red, with > Chinese/Japanese characters to the side of a picture of Donna's face and > arms stretched overhead. Lastly, their manager told me this album is going > to be transformed yet again once a distribution deal is reached. I wish they > would just get to work on an altogether new one! > > I did indeed stop by Fez in NY for their show. We were seated very close to > the stage, close enough that Donna recognized me when she came out. It was a > very strong set, harder rocking than usual, and she included three new > songs. Jay did indeed play drums (no Quinn), and on bass they had Mark > Gorman, who tended to play a more rhythmic role than melodic. "On And On" > got reworked, along the lines of the remix by Junior Vasquez (just passing > this along, don't know anything more). It started with the usual dreamy > treatment, then halfway through started switching gears in an oddly arranged > transitional section, then became a dance number, with big backbeat and > pounding bass. Not the way I'd do it, of course, but they all seemed to be > having fun with it. There were other songs that they did in a more forceful > manner than before, and I wonder if opening for Paula had influenced her in > this regard. Anyway, their manager also thought this was one of the hottest > shows they'd ever done, so I'll abide by her better-informed opinion. > > BTW, Gerry Leonard, textural guitarist, opened with a set of mostly > instrumental, mostly ambient pieces, with Jay on drums and a bass player > whose name I didn't get. Although I've admired his work (what little I know > of it) as sideman and producer, as a frontman he failed to really catch > fire. It was interesting, though, to hear someone produce all these > effects-laden sounds using a nylon-string acoustic guitar. > > Chatted briefly with them afterward. I said hi to Jay for you, Ms Remick ;-) > which brought a smile to his face. > > Peace > > JourneyBear > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:30:13 GMT From: "Steve Bornstein" Subject: (harbinger) EctoFest Hi Everyone People occasionally complain about off-topic posts. My viewpoint is that while it is usually best to stick close to relevant topics and issues, continued involvement on harbinger has led to forming friendships with other members, who share similar tastes and are open to related concerns, even if they are not strictly related to Paula. Sometimes, when there isn't a whole lot going on with Ms Cole, the discussion can range off-topic, though forays into completely unrelated areas is mostly frowned upon. While we are in largely off-topic mode, I want to inform you of an event which may be of interest to people looking for artists similar in some way to Paula. **Saturday, September 2 ECTO Fest - Kenosia Lake Park, Danbury, CT. A day long outdoor charity festival. Web-site http://www.ectofest.org has all the info on how to get there by train,bus car etc. if you don't have web access or have other questions you can e-mail the organizer of the fest at cjmacs@earthlink.net ECTOFEST 2000 schedule: 12:20 - 12:50 JESSICA WEISER 1:00 - 1:35 ANNE O'MEARA HEATON 1:35 raffle #1- ectofest package 1:45 - 2:20 AMY FAIRCHILD 2:20 raffle #2 - 2:30 - 3:10 SLOAN WAINWRIGHT 3:10 speech by WGCD representative 3:20 - 4:00 KRISTEEN YOUNG 4:00 raffle #3 - cd package 4:15 - 5:00 SUSAN MCKEOWN 5:00 speech by IAM representative 5:15 - 6:00 MERRIE AMSTERBURG 6:00 raffle #4 - autographed poster (I assume it's of Happy) 6:15 HAPPY RHODES Well, similar insofar as they are white female singer/songwriters working in some variation of pop/new age music with a certain intellectual bent. But that's just demographic categorization, as they all have distinct voices. Some of you saw Merrie open for Paula last fall (worked in Ms Topic after all). She is a Boston-area artist who plays a number of stringed instruments and tends toward creating aural dreamscapes with husband Peter Linton on effected guitar. Susan McKeown weaves her Irish roots with folk/pop/new age, and has a strong and moving voice. Happy Rhodes bears a resemblance to Kate Bush and has an extraordinary vocal range, sounding like a man at the lower end, all the way to bird calls at the high end. Amy Fairchild is more rootsy, with a great mix of rock, folk, blues, and pop, and has been near the top of my to-see list for a couple of years. Even though I've met her a couple of times, I have yet to catch a gig, so I'm psyched. Kristeen Young pushes the envelope for keyboard pop/rock - or did the only time I saw her - with a voice that gets pretty shrill when she pushes it. I heard one song by her on a compilation that just wigged me out, and though the one time I saw her the rest of her material didn't match this, I am going to give her another chance. Anne Heaton is probably the most "normal" one here, with straight-ahead lyrics and solid if not innovative music. Sloan Wainwright gets more props from others in the folk world than me. I have a very hard time with her ponderous, self-important sounding alto voice. She is Loudon's sister, but lacks his wry wit. Jessica I don't know. This is on the shores of a lake, and you can indeed swim and listen at the same time. Do be careful of the geese and their "evidence" though. This is a really nice little festival put together by a couple of fans of the music with little more than a why-not attitude. It's proof that you can make things happen on your own. I believe it's only $15 in advance, $20 at the gate. Danbury is in western CT, right up Rt. 7 from the shoreline (Norwalk), and also right off I-84. BTW, Ecto derives from the name of one of Happy's albums, which became the name of an e-mail list devoted to her and similar artists. (Right, Joel?) I know some of you are also members of that list. Please feel free to post this over there, if the event hasn't been announced there yet. Hope to see some of you there. Peace JourneyBear _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 03:05:23 -0400 From: "Michael Kleinert" Subject: (harbinger) Re: Donna Delory I really owe you guys many many thanx. You guys are really amazing, and have turned me onto so many really great artists already. But, this week I went to see Donna Delory at the Fez in NYC on Monday. And.....WOW. That was the only word I could cough up after just about each song she performed, and after the entire show came to an end. Wow. I was completely in awe. She was so intense, and my entire mind and soul were completely focused on soaking in every little bit that there was to absorb. It was the first show in quite a while that really gave me that rare feeling -- those shivers that you mysteriously get when moved in a very unique way. She is so alive and so beautiful, and just so inspiring. I turned to my friend Sandi who also saw and heard her for the first time, and remarked "I'm in love", to which she replied "Me too." There was just so much beauty and feeling and power. Not only is she talented, but she's both adorable and completely full of life. She expresses so much, and has the most powerful smile I've seen - the most powerful gleaming eyes I've felt - and her movement, expression and voice - wow. There were three songs which I really felt strongly and were particularly moved by. At the same time, I was trying to soak in Jay's intense percussion -- he was absolutely amazing, and a very big part of where so much of the reality and life in the show came from. He was the heartbeat that drove all else. I thought it really showed how diversely talented he is. Aside from which, he also played with the opener, who was also quite good. Her other partner, the cello/guitar player -- he was fantastic. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a cello played quite like that before -- the distortion was really wild on at least one song, and the other effects and styles were just great. He also had amazing backup vocals and added a very big dimension to the overall sound. And her bassist was also just one of the smoothest. He reminded me of Tony Levin at times, because he played such a smooth bass. I don't know if anybody noticed, or is familiar with this, but both of his basses were fretless. (For those who don't know, that means that it doesn't have the frets or notches between each note on the guitar neck.) Playing a fretless bass means that you're really feeling it, more than playing it. And you could just see that he really felt it when he played. He was absolutely perfect, and really seemed to be enjoying his work. Both myself and my friend were totally in awe. The disc has not left my player, though it does not do her live performance any justice. I knew that would be the case. Donna Delory is now at the top of my watch-list for live performances. It was a shame that the show wasn't even sold out. She is the best kept secret around. And she was so unbelievably nice and just a regular girl talking to her one on one. Not only did she sign the booklet of my brand new CD, but she took a picture with me and with my friend. She asked me to send her copies so that she can get them onto her site :-) Adorable and extraordinarily talented. Wow. Thanks guys. Michael - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V5 #141 *******************************