From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V4 #154 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Tuesday, November 2 1999 Volume 04 : Number 154 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- Re: (harbinger) WHATCG question [Kenneth R Carpenter ] Re: (harbinger) WHATCG question [Kenneth R Carpenter ] (harbinger) Melbourne Concert Review!! ["Sara Brooke" ] (harbinger) Controversy? [Jim Eustrom ] (harbinger) i've said stupid stuff, but this may top it all... [DWspinTHI] Re: (harbinger) i've said stupid stuff, but this may top it all... [MAXMO] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:00:03 -0500 From: Kenneth R Carpenter Subject: Re: (harbinger) WHATCG question Sara wrote: >> I have a totally different single version to that - the australian version, >> I was wondering if it was the same as the most *common* single version >> in the US, the track listing is as follows: >> 1. Album Version Edit >> 2. E-team drugstore cowboy radio edit >> 3. Sylkscreen Radio Edit >> 4. Dekkard's Rancho Pepe mix >> 5. E-team saxuality mix >> It came in a paper-cardboard sleeve... No, it's not the same as the U.S. CD single of WHATCG. there were four official U.S. singles released for Cowboys. The first was the two track CD single which featured the album version of WHATCG and Hitler's Brothers. The second was the 10-track maxi-CD with all the Sylk/Drugstore Cowboy mixes. The third was a 12-inch vinyl single of Cowboys featuring six tracks (just selections from the 10-track maxi-CD). And finally, there was a 7-inch vinyl single with the album version of Cowboys and Hitler's Bros. and the flip. Peace. Kenn ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. ****************************************************************************** - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:35:21 -0500 (EST) From: April Dunetz Subject: Re: (harbinger) WHATCG question the b-side to the first US WHATCG single was hush,hush,hush not Hitler's Brothers as someone has written... On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kenneth R Carpenter wrote: > Sara wrote: > > >> I have a totally different single version to that - the australian version, > >> I was wondering if it was the same as the most *common* single version > >> in the US, the track listing is as follows: > > >> 1. Album Version Edit > >> 2. E-team drugstore cowboy radio edit > >> 3. Sylkscreen Radio Edit > >> 4. Dekkard's Rancho Pepe mix > >> 5. E-team saxuality mix > > >> It came in a paper-cardboard sleeve... > > No, it's not the same as the U.S. CD single of WHATCG. there were four official U.S. singles released for Cowboys. The first was the two track CD single which featured the album version of WHATCG and Hitler's Brothers. The second was the 10-track maxi-CD with all the Sylk/Drugstore Cowboy mixes. The third was a 12-inch vinyl single of Cowboys featuring six tracks (just selections from the 10-track maxi-CD). And finally, there was a 7-inch vinyl single with the album version of Cowboys and Hitler's Bros. and the flip. > > Peace. > > Kenn > > ****************************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. > ****************************************************************************** > ! ! > ! > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:45:26 -0500 From: Kenneth R Carpenter Subject: Re: (harbinger) WHATCG question Thanks, April. Too early in the morning for me to be trying to use my memory. :) Kenn >>> April Dunetz 11/01/99 10:35AM >>> the b-side to the first US WHATCG single was hush,hush,hush not Hitler's Brothers as someone has written... On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kenneth R Carpenter wrote: > Sara wrote: > > >> I have a totally different single version to that - the australian version, > >> I was wondering if it was the same as the most *common* single version > >> in the US, the track listing is as follows: > > >> 1. Album Version Edit > >> 2. E-team drugstore cowboy radio edit > >> 3. Sylkscreen Radio Edit > >> 4. Dekkard's Rancho Pepe mix > >> 5. E-team saxuality mix > > >> It came in a paper-cardboard sleeve... > > No, it's not the same as the U.S. CD single of WHATCG. there were four official U.S. singles released for Cowboys. The first was the two track CD single which featured the album version of WHATCG and Hitler's Brothers. The second was the 10-track maxi-CD with all the Sylk/Drugstore Cowboy mixes. The third was a 12-inch vinyl single of Cowboys featuring six tracks (just selections from the 10-track maxi-CD). And finally, there was a 7-inch vinyl single with the album version of Cowboys and Hitler's Bros. and the flip. > > Peace. > > Kenn > > ****************************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. ****************************************************************************** - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:37:02 -0500 From: Kelly L Murphy Subject: (harbinger) .........last november? Hey everyone - Ok I must admit, I have NEVER heard about this tune. I have been a fan of Paula's before "Harbinger" even came out...........am I the ONLY one who has never heard this one? I acquired a 3-track promo off a nice person on eBay and included are: "I Am So Ordinary" "Hitler's Brothers" and a DEMO version of "Last November".................is this a rare item???? Later, Kelly The Innocence Mission: http://www.kneelingelephant.com Sixpence None The Richer: http://www.sixpence-ntr.com Chevelle: http://www.chevelleinc.com five o'clock people: http://www.fiveoclockpeople.com *Squint Entertainment: http://www.squinterland.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:15:03 +1100 From: "Sara Brooke" Subject: (harbinger) Melbourne Concert Review!! Well guys last night was one of the best nights of my life!! I had never seen Paula live before - and OMIGOD is awesome, I love her stuff off the CD's, etc but seeing her live and I was standing so close to her I could reach out and touch her was a new experience all in itself - It has just given me this new found admiration for how fantastic she is!! The set list was as follows: Rhythm of Life Mississippi Pearl Amen Where have all the cowboys gone I Believe in Love Me I don't want to wait she then came off and then came back on again and did Feeling Love God - --At one stage I was standing right near the lighting guy and he had a set list in his hand which also had Ordinary and La Tonya down, but for some reason she didn't end up doing them - which I was kinda pissed about as they are my fav songs at the moment!! The actual place where the concert was set was very small and there was only about 150- 200 other people there - so it was very intimate, someone earlier posted that Paula's concerts are only as good as her crowd - well the crowd was really getting into it- and as a result you could see that paula was really enjoying herself, along with the rest of the band. Feeling Love went for about 10 mins - they turned it into a mini jazz thing, where each member of the band did there thing- which was FANTASTIC!! At the end I think Paula nearly broke the sound barrier - she can carry her voice for so long....damn she is amazing. Umm what else? Oh She turned WHATCG into sounding more like ROF- talking/rapping the verses and then singing the chorus like she usually does. She talked a fair bit to the crowd in between songs, umm what can I remember? Oh before Amen she said some songs just come to you really fast - others take ages, but that Amen was a song that just came to her, and she loves it so much that she had to name the album after it. She did the "I love Australia and Melbourne soo much - you guys are just the best! me and the band want to move down here and live here" To which the crowd just went wild too...she also said that she had been wanting to come down here for so long but it took a TV show to get her there (this was her appearance on Hey Hey its Saturday - she played IBIL) Overall it was so damn good I am still walking on clouds, the songs from Amen which I sorta half/half liked (particularly Rhythm of Life and God) I now love...damn I am now having concert withdrawals - you know when you look forward to something so much and then it is over? Well that is what I am experiencing!! - --Sara B NP: La Tonya - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:17:24 -0500 From: Kenneth R Carpenter Subject: Re: (harbinger) .........last november? You won't ever find that CD in the rack at Tower Records (it's out of print), but it's not terribly rare anymore. A lot of copies are floating around out there on the internet. :) This was the only single ever released from Harbinger. Another version of the single is a DJ promo, but that only features "Ordinary." There was also a video for "Ordinary" which is really easy to find these days. "Last November" is definitely really old Paula stuff, though. Listen to "Watch The Woman's Hands" and "She Can't Feel Anything Anymore." I notice a lot of similarities in her style on each of those songs. Peace. Kenn >>> Kelly L Murphy 11/01/99 04:37PM >>> Hey everyone - Ok I must admit, I have NEVER heard about this tune. I have been a fan of Paula's before "Harbinger" even came out...........am I the ONLY one who has never heard this one? I acquired a 3-track promo off a nice person on eBay and included are: "I Am So Ordinary" "Hitler's Brothers" and a DEMO version of "Last November".................is this a rare item???? Later, Kelly The Innocence Mission: http://www.kneelingelephant.com Sixpence None The Richer: http://www.sixpence-ntr.com Chevelle: http://www.chevelleinc.com five o'clock people: http://www.fiveoclockpeople.com *Squint Entertainment: http://www.squinterland.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. ****************************************************************************** - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:27:13 -0500 From: Kelly L Murphy Subject: Re: (harbinger) .........last november? Hey Kenn - Thanks for the info on "Last November" - its a great tune. Glad I got my hands on it. Still no signs of PC coming home to Boston to do any shows, that sucks, excuse the language. Later, Kelly The Innocence Mission: http://www.kneelingelephant.com Sixpence None The Richer: http://www.sixpence-ntr.com Chevelle: http://www.chevelleinc.com five o'clock people: http://www.fiveoclockpeople.com *Squint Entertainment: http://www.squinterland.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:51:05 -0500 From: Kenneth R Carpenter Subject: Re: (harbinger) .........last november? I'm sure she'll get back up that way once the regular tour begins. Not Boston necessarily, but in the neighborhood. The commercial success of the album is likely to play a big role in the duration of the tour and how many cities she visits. Last I checked, Amen. hasn't even cracked the Billboard 200. If anyone gets stood up on the tour, it'd be the southern U.S. Seems she's not really all that popular south of the Mason-Dixon. But, Boston is up there in her native stomping grounds. After all, if it weren't for New Englanders (and those San Franciscans that cheered her on back in the early 90s), she wouldn't be where she is now. I doubt that she'll forsake you. She just might not be playing the Paradise Club. :) Peace. Kenn >>> Kelly L Murphy 11/01/99 07:27PM >>> Hey Kenn - Thanks for the info on "Last November" - its a great tune. Glad I got my hands on it. Still no signs of PC coming home to Boston to do any shows, that sucks, excuse the language. Later, Kelly ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:56:08 -0500 (EST) From: April Dunetz Subject: Re: (harbinger) .........last november? ummm... i hope i'm not wrong about this, but i think amen debuted at number 53 on the billboard charts, which is pretty good because paula usually makes a slow and steady ascent on the charts... when i went to a nobody beats the wiz in manhattan, the album was number 93 on the charts, which is decent (and i both another copy of it cause' i hoped that it would symbolize a boost for her) but of course it's paula's fire and amazing talent that is held more deeply to us than her commercial success... paula rules! april On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Kenneth R Carpenter wrote: > I'm sure she'll get back up that way once the regular tour begins. Not Boston necessarily, but in the neighborhood. The commercial success of the album is likely to play a big role in the duration of the tour and how many cities she visits. Last I checked, Amen. hasn't even cracked the Billboard 200. If anyone gets stood up on the tour, it'd be the southern U.S. Seems she's not really all that popular south of the Mason-Dixon. But, Boston is up there in her native stomping grounds. After all, if it weren't for New Englanders (and those San Franciscans that cheered her on back in the early 90s), she wouldn't be where she is now. I doubt that she'll forsake you. She just might not be playing the Paradise Club. :) > > Peace. > > Kenn > > >>> Kelly L Murphy 11/01/99 07:27PM >>> > Hey Kenn - > Thanks for the info on "Last November" - its a great tune. Glad I got my > hands on it. Still no signs of PC coming home to Boston to do any shows, > that sucks, excuse the language. > Later, > Kelly > > ****************************************************************************** > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. > ****************************************************************************** > ! ! > ! > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will > work for your EVERY time. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:06:36 -0800 From: Jim Eustrom Subject: (harbinger) Controversy? What's this I hear about controversy over some passage in IBIL sounding uncannily like some earlier Taylor Dane song? My husband says he heard some snippet from a Rick Dees (Los Angeles) "hits countdown" on Sunday, on which Rick Dees played the passages side by side more than once with much intentional provocation. You could see the finger pointing and raised eyebrow. What's the deal? "Can't you see, I want my life to be something more -- than just long." Pippin - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:02:00 EST From: DWspinTHIS@aol.com Subject: (harbinger) i've said stupid stuff, but this may top it all... good early morning to you all. on december 20th, i'm going to see paula with the barenaked ladies in chicago, and i've got backstages passes for BNL, but my question is, will i still get to see paula back there? (i don't actually have the passes in front of me, but they're coming) any tips from people that have already met paula? hol - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 01:10:34 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) i've said stupid stuff, but this may top it all... In a message dated 11/1/99 10:07:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, DWspinTHIS@aol.com writes: << good early morning to you all. on december 20th, i'm going to see paula with the barenaked ladies in chicago, and i've got backstages passes for BNL, but my question is, will i still get to see paula back there? (i don't actually have the passes in front of me, but they're coming) any tips from people that have already met paula? >> I went backstage for the Jewel concert and we did the Meet & Greet while her opening act was onstage. It sucked because I like her opening act (Steve Poltz) and thought it would be cool to meet him. I almost got backstage passes during the Tori/Alanis concert but was confused as to whether I would meet Tori or Alanis since you usually meet them during the opening act. However, if you have passes for the AFTERSHOW (instead of the PRESHOW), it's a party that everyone from the show will be at. The preshow is very organized, where you all line up against a wall, and get one picture and one autograph. - -- Mark - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Btw, if you are an AOL subscriber the above instruction will work for your EVERY time. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V4 #154 *******************************