From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V4 #37 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Thursday, April 1 1999 Volume 04 : Number 037 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) Let Lilith Live! (Long) ["Steve Bornstein" Subject: (harbinger) Let Lilith Live! (Long) Wow! Thanks to all for raising this issue near and dear to our hearts. Following is my 2-½¢. I apologize for the length but I think it's best to start at the beginning. Way back in 1997, the first year of Lilith, Sarah had to field questions concerning certain artists being excluded, some artists refusing to join Lilith. Sometimes people read more than was there into such mundane reasons as booking conflicts, but sometimes there were indeed ideological differences. Sarah said it was impossible to include everybody, but there was no reason there couldn't be a second Lilith, or a third one, and they didn't even need to be called Lilith. On this point I wholeheartedly agree, as there is an enormous amount and diversity of female talent that has been drastically overlooked for years. I'd like to think it shoudn't be too hard for several female acts to join forces, combine fan bases, and tour successfully. I think Sarah was annoyed by people (mostly male) telling her an all-female tour couldn't work and wanted to prove it could be done by ignoring conventions and just doing it, and by including as many performers as possible. She and her comrades showed the world how it could be done. Sarah never wanted this to be a permanent organization, nor herself to be the figurehead. In fact she felt rather uncomfortable being the focus of so much attention. To her credit she has handled it very levelheadedly, but I quite understand she would want her life to go back to normal. Quieter, anyway. Besides, one of the real reasons she organized the Fair was so she could see a lot of the artists she had heard so much about but couldn't see because of their schedules. I know it sounds silly but believe me this is just the way musicians think. And she's right, too! It was quite common to see Sarah in the wings checking out the other singers. Nothing would please her more than for other women to carry on without her, as Lilith or otherwise, sisters doing it for themselves. That's the true promise of Lilith - long may she live! Just a reminder - this here innernet thang is a very useful tool for effecting change and organizing projects of common interests to like-minded people. I'm sure many people right here on this list have the very ideas, resources, and contacts needed to help put together a Lilithesque Fair. Sure, it's an enormous task, but if we and others similarly inclined put our heads and hands and hearts together who's to say what we can accomplish? Peace, love, and music JourneyBear >From: DOSHIA98@aol.com > >Sarah said from the beginning that she only had plans to do Lilith >for two or three years. For a while it seemed there was a >possibility of someone taking over the headlining and running of >Lilith, but it was just a rumor. This could be a real problem - who should be headliner? (I think I hear some suggestions) Who could hold such a widely diverse talent field together? Sarah succeeded largely because she was fair and ego-free. That's tough to follow. >Last summer Sarah hinted that she wanted to take time off to start >a family, and that 1999 would be Lilith's last year. Just >recently she has announced a 4-5 year break. I really hope that isn't true, but goddess bless her if that's what she wants to do. >And seeing as how Lilith is her brainchild it shall exit with her. I seriously hope not. See above. >I for one am just glad it existed at all, regardless of how short >the duration. Hear hear!! Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger That's the way to unsub even for poor, benighted AOL users. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:44:01 -0500 From: "Chris Povie" Subject: Fw: (harbinger) Let Lilith Live! (not that Long) - -----Original Message----- From: Steve Bornstein To: harbinger@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: (harbinger) Let Lilith Live! (Long) >Just a reminder - this here innernet thang is a very useful tool for >effecting change and organizing projects of common interests to >like-minded people... plus it's good for seein' nekkid pitchers of people. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger That's the way to unsub even for poor, benighted AOL users. Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Brian C Subject: Re: (harbinger) Paula Makes Guest Appearance On New Jazz Album I remember about a bit over a year ago, Paula was on some middle eastern or some kind of world music type of album. Does anyone remember the name of it or if it's worth purchasing? Thanks, Brian - --- Kenneth R Carpenter wrote: > Steve wrote: > > >> Ever vigilant, eh? I appreciate that. > > I'm glad to know someone else is benefitting from it. > :^) > > Actually, after an obscenely long period of time, I'm > only a few more weeks away from having the new Paula > site finished. The vigilance with regard to Paula > music only stems from wanting the discography to be > as complete as possible. Well, that and I love > hearing Paula perform jazz. > > >> Hope everyone isn't scratching their heads over > this. Paula did say many months ago > >> that she wanted to do a jazz album, and these solo > shots would seem to indicate she's > >> heading that way. Is the world ready for that? > Or does everyone want more of her > >> soul-searching pop/rock? I would hate to see her > fall flat after she's built up so much > >> momentum . . and expectations. True fans will > stick by her but the general public > >> can be so fickle. > > I'm guessing that she'll hold off on the jazz album > for a little while. I can't see the next album being > jazz. That would be way too soon for her recently > found fans to handle. I think that most of them > would drop her like a hot potato. That might be > something she should consider after a few more > non-jazz albums. I don't think I'm even ready for a > jazz-only album from her. I'm just enjoying these > little treats she's giving us along the way. That'll > keep me for a long time. > > Another couple of albums -- Lilith Fair live CDs -- > will be coming out this year (allegedly in May when > Lilith tiks go on sale) that might feature Paula, but > no definite information has been released from > Nettwerk or Arista. One of the albums being worked > on is supposed to be a jam session album that will > feature songs performed off the cuff by various > Lilith performers. Apparently this is stuff that > never made it to stage. That should be interesting. > I'd love to hear the song Paula and Mary Chapin > Carpenter performed together at the first Lilith > Fair. Anyone remember what that was? > > Anyway... > > Peace. > > Kenn > > Peace > > JourneyBear > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > That's the way to unsub even for poor, benighted AOL > users. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ! > > ! > > > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > That's the way to unsub even for poor, benighted AOL > users. > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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