From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V3 #204 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 204 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? [sstewart@NTCGEN01HE.ntc.nokia.com (Stewart Ste] Re: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? ["Steve Bornstein" ] (harbinger) "Me" pop-up-video [Holly Bolt ] (harbinger) New Concert Dates in Phoenix and Las Vegas ["King, Chris (AZ1] Re: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? [Riphug@aol.com] Re: (harbinger) Re: Lisa Loeb, Tori, the 1st Amendment... ["Chris Povie" ] (harbinger) Correct TV Dates? ["Silver Kat" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:00:39 +0300 From: sstewart@NTCGEN01HE.ntc.nokia.com (Stewart Steven NTC/INP-He) Subject: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? Sorry to hear that so many people on this list are anti-Loeb. I actually really enjoy her songwriting. I think the rhythms and structures of her songs are quite original. IAnd though there are some songs that have better lyrics than others, I think she is a good lyricist. She has a clear and pretty voice that actually sounds even better live than on the recordings and though not a terribly exciting performer...her has a very winning stage presense. I remember reading past posts about people not remembering seeing Paula opening for Counting Crows, Melissa Etheridge, or Sarah McLachlan...then seeing her again after buying her album and becoming familiar with her music and loving the performance. I am not saying that buying a Loeb album will make you a fan, but it is obvious that knowing the artist's music before seeing the artist live increases the enjoyment factor immensely. Lilith Fair is a great example. I can see a good performance and want to buy an album...but if I love the album, I feel a tinge of regret that I wasn't familiar with the material before I saw the artist so I could enjoy the perfomance more. Helsinki Steve www.geocities.com/~fakefinn - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:16:55 PDT From: "Steve Bornstein" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? Hi Steve (Finnish variety) Nice to hear a voice of reason with a clearly stated opinion free of invective. I didn't mean for my post to give the impression I was bashing. However, LL does somehow give me the willies - it's an irrational emotional response but that's how music affects you sometimes - - so my opinion will be negative. Negative opinions can look harsh in print, just as positive opinions can look silly, but it is important to be able to discuss our feelings and thoughts in this forum without fear of verbal reprisal. >Sorry to hear that so many people on this list are anti-Loeb. So far it's just been me and the formerly lurking Zimmy ringing in on the downside of LL, which still constitutes a minority, so fear not - this isn't bashing yet. There may be others who agree with us, but don't feel strongly enough to post on this way-off-topic subject - no polls, please! And as I often say, go ahead and like whom you will, don't pay too much attention to other peoples' opinions. Opinions are like, well, you know - everyone's got one, and most of them stink. But that's just my opinion. BTW, I understand what you mean about finding out about someone late. I first heard Kate Bush when she had "Hounds Of Love" out, only to find that was her fifth album! Had to do some quick research and purchasing, all rewarding. LL is not in this league, but the dynamic is the same. Peace JourneyBear ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:23:10 EDT From: Honoku@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? In a message dated 7/9/98 12:02:10 PM, you wrote: > > >Sorry to hear that so many people on this list are anti-Loeb. I actually > >really enjoy her songwriting. I think the rhythms and structures of her > >songs are quite original. IAnd though there are some songs that have better > >lyrics than others, I think she is a good lyricist. She has a clear and > >pretty voice that actually sounds even better live than on the recordings > >and though not a terribly exciting performer...her has a very winning stage > >presense. > thanks for this post steve, it is good to hear the other side of the story. from the previous ones i had written LL off. i am not familiar with her except for what has been overplayed, and that often is not an indication of the performer. your post reminded me that i have heard her on the world cafe, where she was ok. evets - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:11:15 -0400 From: "Nicole" Subject: (harbinger) Re: Lisa Loeb, Tori, the 1st Amendment... *sigh* Alright, kids. Let's put this baby to bed. We all have our opinions. Last time I checked, it was okay to post them. Just because Zimmy's not Mr. Povie, does that mean he can't state his (negative) opinion? No. Now, I don't like Lisa, either. So what? I'm allowed. I'm a major Tori fan. I'm allowed. It's great, Kenn, that you gave Lisa a chance after not liking her at first. Good for you. You're allowed. I don't mean to sound rude, because that's not the point of this post. I don't really know the point, actually. :-) I guess your post just struck me as rude, like Zimmy didn't have a right to be here. And, no, I'm not a newbie. So, in conclusion, don't ask me why I posted this. It was just my $0.02. Nicole P.S. -- Tori's not a cornflake girl. She's a raisin girl. Cornflake girls are the ones that stab you in the back. :-) - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Holly Bolt Subject: (harbinger) Opening Act??? Hey Everybody, I just heard on our local Portland OR station that Paula Cole is going to be in town in September, but that she is going to be the *opening act* for Matchbox 20.... does this strike anyone here as odd?? I wonder if this means that she will only do a 45 minute show, or if maybe she'll do her longer set anyway. Does anyone have any clue as to what's up with this?? - -Holly ;) - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Holly Bolt Subject: (harbinger) "Me" pop-up-video Hello, According to Rock on TV, "Me" will be featured on VH-1's Lilith Pop-Up-Video show. The show airs at 6:00 pm this Sunday. - -Holly Bolt - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 09 Jul 1998 18:31:03 -0500 From: "King, Chris (AZ15)" Subject: (harbinger) New Concert Dates in Phoenix and Las Vegas Found on the Warner Bros. Web page (and I heard something on the radio), there is some new concert dates I can make (from Phoenix). Does anyone know any details about the "TBA" yet? You may email me direct to save boring the list if you want. Thanks! 1998-09-02 Paula Cole Phoenix AZ TBA 1998-09-04 & 5 Paula Cole Las Vegas NV TBA Regards, Chris - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:03:39 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) Loeb Bashing? I just wanted to throw in my two cents' worth on Lisa Loeb, who I saw live on the Village Stage at last year's Lilith Fair and again live (as opposed to dead? such a strange expression!) when she opened for Sarah McLachlan on last winter's Surfacing tour. Anyway, I enjoy listening to Lisa Loeb. I enjoy watching her perform. She's very personable and has a pleasant stage presence. As far as her musical talent is concerned? Well, she can sing and play guitar better than I can. She has talent, yes, but her talent is not in the same kind of *unique* league as Paula Cole's or Sarah McLachlan's. Those two women, among several others, are true musicians with unmistakable voices. The first time I heard Natalie Imbruglia, I could have sworn it was Lisa Loeb. I've never heard anyone who sounds exactly like Paula or Sarah. Ok.....that's it. Jill :D - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:39:32 -0400 From: "Chris Povie" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Lisa Loeb, Tori, the 1st Amendment... >*sigh* >Alright, kids. Let's put this baby to bed. We all have our opinions. Last >time I checked, it was okay to post them. Just because Zimmy's not Mr. >Povie, does that mean he can't state his (negative) opinion? No. >Now, I don't like Lisa, either. I take offense, Ms. Nicole; For I wrote to Harbinger about 5 months ago with a positive, open-minded query to the list, to the tune of "why is everyone bashing Lisa Loeb? I don't see what's so bad about her..." She is not a Sarah or a Paula, but my pets aren't Lassie or Morris, either-- and I like'em just fine... Love and kizzes, Christopher P - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:05:28 -0400 From: "Silver Kat" Subject: (harbinger) Correct TV Dates? Hi there, Here's some actual Paula content - Does someone out there have a list of all the TV appearances that Paula has been on? I'm looking to complete some missing dates in my list... Also - I'm looking for a complete tour date schedule from early 95 to present - if someone has these and would be so kind as to send it my way, I'd be extremely grateful... Cheers Kim - reminding everyone about the VH1 special on this Saturday! http://www.angelfire.com/nj/silverkat - ------------------------------ Harbinger Public Service Announcement: Emergency contraceptives are methods of preventing pregnancy *after* unprotected sexual intercourse. They do not protect against sexually transmitted infections. For more info, browse to: http://opr.princeton.edu/ec/ - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V3 #204 *******************************