From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V3 #78 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Sunday, March 8 1998 Volume 03 : Number 078 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) Light bulbs [Connie and John Groer ] Re: (harbinger) To Change a light bulb, the navy way [Linda Van Leuven ] (harbinger) Concerts -Reply ["Kenn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 10:47:55 -0500 From: Connie and John Groer Subject: (harbinger) Light bulbs Jeepers, I am SO glad you posted about changing light bulbs--that reminds me--I have to buy some light bulbs. Computer by candlelight is romantic, but...... I loved the light bulb thingie! It's so true! Not so much with this list, but on a couple of others I get-- it's WAY too true! Sadly, true. Thanks for posting it! :-) % Connie Groer % % jgroer@mindspring.com % - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:17:47 -0800 From: Linda Van Leuven Subject: Re: (harbinger) To Change a light bulb, the navy way Jon, this is brilliant! I'm sure there are many Harbinger occupations out there that have their own distinct light-bulb-changing (LBC) processes....... cheers! Linda At 04:53 PM 3/6/98 -0800, you wrote: >At 05:23 PM 3/6/98 EST, Honoku wrote: >>how many navel nuclear propulsion electricians does it take to change a light >>bulb ?...... >> > >Oh my. Well, you see, this is the Navy, and not only is it the navy, but it >is the nuclear navy. This means that in order to change a light bulb, we >must first submit a request form up the chain of command in order to get >approval to change the light bulb. In my chain of command, this means it >must go through the following people: > 1: My Leading Petty Officer (LPO) > 2. My Leading Chief Petty Officer (LCPO) > 3. My Division Officer (DO) > 4. The Electrical Assistant (EA) > 5. The Chief Engineer (CHENG) > 6. The Captain (CO) >Once it has reached these people, and they have all approved it up through >the captain, it must come back down that chain. This can take anywhere from >two minutes if it is the light bulb in the captains head (bathroom) two >three weeks if it belongs to the blueshirts down below (i.e. enlisted folk). >OK. So now we have approval. Now we have to write a tagout sheet for the >system to ensure that it is deenergized. This takes two people to write, >one to write it, the other to second check it to ensure it is right. Once >this is done, the tagout must be approved by a watch officer (WO). He may >want to see the drawings and procedure for changing the light bulb, so be >ready for it. After this, the system must be tagged out. This means going >to the circuit breaker that has the light in it's system, opening the >breaker, and hanging a red tag on the breaker to ensure that no one shuts >the breaker before you are done changing the light bulb. A second person >must then come along and sign the tag to ensure that it has been hung in >the correct place and that the correct breaker was in fact opened. The >tag-out sheet is then returned to the watch officer and he can tell you to >change the light bulb. >We are now at the point where we are allowed to change the light bulb. But >wait, what have we forgotten? Well...look at what we had to do. We had to >open the circuit breaker. This means that the area that this light bulb is >in happens to be, well, dark. You can't see. So now we need to rig >temporary lighting in the area to work in, since the navy would frown upon >us simply using a flashlight. So now we go down to the topside electrical >division and con them into helping us rig this lighting. That can take >anywhere from two to four hours and two more bodies. >OK. We can see now, and it is time to actually change the light bulb. First >though, we need to rig an electrical safety area around the bulb, because >even though it has been tagged out, we aren't sure it is completely >deenergized, so we need to keep everyone that is not involved with the >evolution away from the area. We also need rubber matting, electrical >safety gloves, face shields, a multimeter, and a safety harness. We need to >remove any metal from out persons so that we don't have anything on us that >will conduct electricity, and wear the harness so that if we are shocked, >our rope man can pull us away and have medical (who is on station, of >course) revive us. We are now ready to change the light bulb. We open the >light cover, use the multimeter to ensure that the outer case is not >energized, then remove the light bulb and replace it with a new one. We now >close the case, and we are done except for clearing the tags, clearing the >debris from our roped off area, and filing a report for the chain of >command that the light bulb has, in fact, been changed. Ensure that you >have made copies of this report and that you have pictures of the lighted >area so that you have proof that the work was in fact done. > >The totals: > Yourself: 1 > Chain of command: 6 > Tagout writers: 2 > Tagout hangers: 2 > Topside Electricians: 2 > Watch Officer: 1 > Safety Man: 1 > Medical Assistants: 2 > > Total Persons Needed: 17 > > Jon Akers > http://tscnet.com/~jka > Naval Nuclear Propulsion Electrician (but no SatNav!) > > >------------------------------ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe harbinger > >Please note the new majordomo address > >To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: >http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html > >Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: >http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html >For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:36:58 -0500 From: "rick sayre" Subject: (harbinger) hi, pot? i'm the kettle. you're black! Hey ya'll! okay this week's Entertainment Weekly. An interview with the Grammy's SOY BOMB guy. who says: "Paula Cole's beat box... That was really weird, the weirdest thing of the night. She was so serious about it." this amused me to no end. ;) sorry if it's already been covered i have yet to catch up on mail. peace, rick *cuz- with the ziti!* -willow rosenberg struggling whatever, pop culture junkie, holly palmer fan, :) emoticon abuser keeper of random thoughts & delirium, gay tripper, buffy addict for life http://members.aol.com/rbsayre/rick.html *i should come with a warning* -soul miner's daughter - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:34:48 EST From: Violet417 Subject: (harbinger) Concerts i was wondering if anyone knew any info about the paula cole concert on april 25 in boston. if anyone can tell me anything, either email me privately or post it. thanks! suzanne - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:50:41 -0500 From: "Kenn" Subject: (harbinger) Concerts -Reply Suzanne wrote: > i was wondering if anyone knew any info about the paula cole concert > on april 25 in boston. if anyone can tell me anything, either email me > privately or post it. Paula is headlining at a special Earth Day concert festival at Hatch Shell in Boston. It's free. Just show up. Peace. Kenn - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V3 #78 ******************************