From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V3 #76 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 03 : Number 076 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- (harbinger) if you like Billie Myers.....Kiss the Rain [Riphug ] Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply [sus@home.ivm.de] Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply [Honoku ] Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply ["Steve Bornstein" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:47:02 EST From: Riphug Subject: (harbinger) if you like Billie Myers.....Kiss the Rain Tonight (3/5) on TV: NBC - THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO - Minnie Driver; Kiefer Sutherland; singer Billie Myers.(CC)(TV14)(Starts 11:35pm EST) - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:07:57 EST From: Cleo Isis Subject: (harbinger) this is kinda late, but... In Kurt Loader's defense, I doubt he composed the "grammy oddities" story. All the man does is read the tele-prompter. He is, however, still an idiot. Love, Dusti (Cleopatra, Goddess of Denial, Queen Ruler of the Universe, DIVA, etc.) - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 21:29:38 +0100 From: sus@home.ivm.de Subject: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply DWspinTHIS schrieb: > In a message dated 98-03-01 13:19:36 EST, you write: > > << I'm not really sure what other articles you've read or interviews you've > seen, Cristian, but the TV Guide article is the first time I've ever heard > Paula say that she was the ONLY white person in the Berklee gospel > choir. >> > > FOX news chicago had a lengthy segment on paula once, and she said it there > too, i probably wouldn't think of it, but i watched it again yesterday and > remembered it was there > > hol > ......anyway, what did you expect?Fact is, that there were only few whites. Ican understand that she didn't say "There were on an average 3.54 white persons" mor something like that.I don't think that she embezzled the other whites maliciously or to put herself to the front (excuse my bad english,but I'm in a hurry....) Susanne > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo-test@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Please note the new majordomo address > > To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: > http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:15 EST From: Honoku Subject: Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply i thought suzane brought up a very good point, when i read it ,i realized it was what i was thinking in the back of my mind, without consciously articulating it. in normal speach we are all likely to say things which make a point about something, with out being boring enough to give all the little factual details that would make it technicaly correct when inspected with a microscope. - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:27:52 -0500 From: Burr Rutledge Subject: Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply >in normal speach we are all likely to say things which make a >point about something, with out being boring enough to give all the little >factual details that would make it technicaly correct when inspected with a >microscope. so that's what I'm doing wrong... - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:47:11 -0800 From: Linda Van Leuven Subject: Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply At 03:52 PM 3/5/98 EST, you wrote: >in normal speach we are all likely to say things which make a >point about something, with out being boring enough to give all the little >factual details that would make it technicaly correct when inspected with a >microscope. agreed. we all might embellish. But there is a distinct difference in saying that one was the "only" one, and saying 'one of a few'. Being the 'only' one is making a particular point, especially when speaking in terms of race (the only white/black), gender (the only woman/man), or sexuality (the only straight/gay person), etc. As a sociologist, and particularly as a conversation analyst, I know that we are always making claims about who we are vis-a-vis what we say. However, as one fine LIST member pointed out, Paula said these things in interviews and may have been misquoted. It does make a better story to be the "only one". (BTW, I can't remember if Hol said she saw some information in a taped interview). In addition, there is the issue of context. In "normal" speech, or when talking to one's friends, one might be tempted (or even encouraged) to embellish. But when talking to a reporter, there is a sense that one becomes accountable for one's utterances. Politicians, however, seem to be excused from this last bit ;) Anyway, my point is more about the significance of what we say, and less about Paula's comment. As far as I'm concerned, her artistry is brilliant. yours in academia, Linda > >------------------------------ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe harbinger > >Please note the new majordomo address > >To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: >http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html > >Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: >http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html >For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:05:37 EST From: DWspinTHIS Subject: Re: (harbinger) if you like Billie Myers.....Kiss the Rain the guy that wrote billie myers' song "kiss the rain" is the same guy that wrote joan osborne's "one of us"....eric bazillian i don't care too much for billies' voice....does anyone have her CD or something? is that song "typical" of her other songs? hol - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:09:57 EST From: SBoardr123 Subject: Re: (harbinger) if you like Billie Myers.....Kiss the Rain In a message dated 98-03-05 17:11:56 EST, hol writes: > i don't care too much for billies' voice....does anyone have her CD or > something? is that song "typical" of her other songs? I do have her cd and I think it is ok, not striking, but worth the listen. I read somewhere that one of the people that she follows closely is Tracy Chapman, who like Billie has a deep, sensual voice. Billie's lyrics are not nearly as profound as Tracy's, but the music is the point where you can sing along and there are some songs that make you think, but not many. I don't think "Kiss the Rain" is typical of her songs, but if you don't care for her voice, then it might not appeal to you. However, I do like "Kiss the Rain", so maybe it is better if you just check it out yourself. It could never hurt. Ashley - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:58:55 -0500 From: "Kenn" Subject: (harbinger) Recording CDs This is off-topic (well... sorta off-topic - it actually does have to do with Paula's music...), but I need to know if there is any way to record analog tapes onto a CD directly from a stereo. Is there any equipment available to do that these days? I don't mean the mini-discs. Those aren't going to cut it. I'm talking about recording to full-sized CD-Rs. I know it's possible to record analog to CD via computer software, but I'm trying to avoid that, if possible. (And, don't sweat it... I'm not making bootlegs.) ;^) Please e-mail me privately if you have any information about this. Thanks. Peace. Kenn - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:54:41 PST From: "Steve Bornstein" Subject: Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply Keep in mind that TV Gide does not in an way constitute an authoritative source of information or a vanguard of investigative journalism. Earlier in that same piece the writer states, "Cole refused to have any pictures of herself adorn her first album, Harbinger." That sure looks like Paula to me. You'd think the writer could have at least looked at the recorded output of the subject of her article. Oh, well, what do you expect from a publication that got only ! out of 4 picks right, even picking Hanson as Best New Artist? Peace >From owner-harbinger@smoe.org Thu Mar 5 13:00:52 1998 >Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] (root) > by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) > id 0yAhkn-0002a6-00; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:00:33 -0500 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id QAA08615; > Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:01:20 -0500 (EST) >Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:01:17 - -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id PAA08597 > for harbinger-outgoing; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:56:51 -0500 (EST) >Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.148]) > by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id PAA08593 > for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:56:44 -0500 (EST) >Received: from Honoku@aol.com > by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FJSa001472 > for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:15 -0500 (EST) >From: Honoku >Message-ID: <4c1560c8.34ff1090@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:52:15 EST >To: harbinger@smoe.org >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Re: Re: (harbinger) Gospel Choirs and Lies -Reply >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 >Sender: owner-harbinger@smoe.org >Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > >i thought suzane brought up a very good point, when i read it ,i realized it >was what i was thinking in the back of my mind, without consciously >articulating it. in normal speach we are all likely to say things which make a >point about something, with out being boring enough to give all the little >factual details that would make it technicaly correct when inspected with a >microscope. > >------------------------------ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe harbinger > >Please note the new majordomo address > >To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: >http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html > >Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: >http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html >For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: (harbinger) New list I've started a new list. I don't know why I do these things to myself. ;) It has nothing to do with Paula Cole, but if she had email I bet she'd subscribe. ;) It's a list devoted to John Coltrane, the great jazz saxaphonist. To subscribe, mail listserv@listserv.uh.edu with: subscribe coltrane-l Your Name Jason - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Please note the new majordomo address To buy Paula merchandise from Paula(!) try: http://pw2.netcom.com/~ilml/pcmerch.html Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V3 #76 ******************************