From: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org (harbinger-digest) To: harbinger-digest@smoe.org Subject: harbinger-digest V2 #88 Reply-To: harbinger@smoe.org Sender: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-harbinger-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk harbinger-digest Sunday, October 5 1997 Volume 02 : Number 088 HARBINGER DIGEST To post, mail harbinger@smoe.org To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger-digest To get list info file, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info harbinger-digest Today's Subjects: ---------------- Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida [HunterXTC@aol.com] (harbinger) Paula Moment [SuccessHB@aol.com] Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida [SBoardr123@aol.com] Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida -Reply ["Kenn" ] Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida [Terry Auspitz ] RE: (harbinger) Paula Moments [Sharley Hillgardner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:31:37 -0400 (EDT) From: HunterXTC@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida wow.. jen trynin is opening for paula in florida??!!! lucky you! there was always this song that stuck in my head from a few years back called better than nothing, and it wasnt until this year that i found out that jen trynin sang it (back then she was known as jennifer trynin). she plays guitar and kinda reminds me of a grittier version of aimee mann. she, like paula and aimee have that boston connection going on. and she must be a friend of jay bellerose's cause on the first cd (cocamamie) she thanks him in the credits :).... she ought to be an energetic opening act!!! i know she has a new cd out, but i havent heard anything off it yet... spanish - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:24:05 -0400 (EDT) From: SuccessHB@aol.com Subject: (harbinger) Paula Moment Well, It's approaching my semiannual post time, so here goes. I've not been as lucky as Kenn, but I have been able to see Paula 4 times (so far!) this year (with a 5th to occur on October 12 in Boston!). I don't know that I have an absolute favorite moment (the entire Paradise show is pretty well engrained in my memory, and if I think on it, I can put myself back there during any of the songs she played.) At the Paradise show, one of my more *noteworthy* moments did occur. After that show, I hung around for ever . . . thank God Phil was kind enough to keep me great company. Paula stayed backstage for a long time visiting with her family, but finally came out. We chatted all-too-briefly, and after our talk, we all (Phil, Paula, Jay, & I) walked to the van. And *I* carried Paula's guitar! (Of course I placed it *gently* into the van!) It was a simple task that felt grand because they trusted me with something that is part of the wonderful work they all create, Paula in particular. Just thought I'd share . . . it's certainly been long enough since my last post. Thanks for reading. Also, Kenn, it sure is good to read your posts again. I missed you . . . a voice of many who usually remain silent. We'll have coffee someday; I'm sure of it! Pax, Kate Blaisdell - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 12:40:29 -0400 (EDT) From: SBoardr123@aol.com Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida I haven't posted in a few months, so I figured I would hop onto the bandwagon. I am going to be at the Paula concert in Miami Beach, if any one would like to meet up, let me know. I guess I would have to say that my most profound Paula moment would have to be the first time I listened to "Bethelem". I have yet to see Paula in concert, so I have to use this one. After listening to it, I realized that I am not the only person out there that hates highschool and all the superficial aspects of it. I am going through a major struggle right now at school and knowing that I am not the only one, makes things so much easier. Paula was able to put my feelings into words and I couldn't thank her enough for allowing me to realize that it happens to us all. So, my moment may not be as exciting as Kenn's always are, but it is quite powerful in its own right. I realize that the song also focuses on other things, but it still hits me hard each time I hear it. Seeing Paula on Nov 15- Ashley - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 14:51:39 -0400 From: "Kenn" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida -Reply Ashley wrote: > So, my moment may not be as exciting as Kenn's always are, but it is > quite powerful in its own right. I agree with you completely, Ashley. Truthfully, some of those most powerful moments I (or, probably, a lot of other fans) have experienced with regard to Paula have come simply from listening to her music. Truthfully, if it weren't for the way the honesty and openness of her music impacts viscerally, I don't know that the face-to-face encounters with Paula would be as meaningful or as memorable. The music and the person from whom it comes is the really exciting part. By the way... enjoy the show, Ashley. I really glad to hear you're going to get to see Paula perform live. A part of me very much envies you that initial experience of seeing her in concert. Pretty overwhelming, as I recall. :^) Peace. Kenn - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 16:50:43 -0400 From: Terry Auspitz Subject: (harbinger) Jen Trynin This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------67286D7AB7C4084AD88A3DBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's that review I promised, from alt.music.alternative.female. Sorry if any of you are now reading this twice. Subject: REVIEW: Jen Trynin, _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ Date: 30 Sep 1997 19:22:45 -0400 From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Consumable) Organization: Freelance writer Newsgroups: rec.music.misc, alt.music.alternative, alt.music.alternative.female REVIEW: Jen Trynin, _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ (Warner) - Al Muzer Well on her way to an Aimee Mann-like cult following - former New Jersey (exit 135 on the Garden State Parkway) resident Jennifer Trynin took nearly three years to drop half her first name and unleash the follow-up to _Cockamamie_ , her critically-acclaimed, 1994 debut. A deeply personal break up diary set to music, the 13-song _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ utilizes feel, finesse, pop-smart songwriting, reserved instrumentation and a warm, smoky voice thick with waste and wistful sadness to convey Trynin's thoughtful, insightful, occasionally painful tales of insecurity, betrayal, weakness, disgust, second thought, lost love and heartbreak. Despite the unwavering lyrical focus of her sophomore effort, Trynin sweetens her heartache and makes it accessible with musical touches that range from a bit of Mazzy-moodiness mixed with Cowboy Junkies vulnerability on "Everything" ; to a lush, melancholy, Fleetwood Mac-ish harmony groove that effortlessly propels "Getaway (February)" ; to the loud blast of alterna-pop crunch and "yeah, yeah, yeah," big-hook chorus that makes "Go Ahead" such a perfect choice as the first single. Other (but not limited to) highlights of one of this year's best albums include: the "Shaft"-ish guitar intro, hip hop-stomp beat and irresistible pop hook that powers "Bore Me"; the chunky T-Rex-ish riff and punky vocal snarl of "If I"; a gentle, Joni Mitchell jazzed-funk confessional called "Writing Notes"; the crotch-rock riff, Dwight Twilley break and galloping rhythm punch of "Love Letter"; and the sinuous groove and bluesy starkness of "I Don't Need You." - --- This review first appeared in Consumable Online, the oldest continuous collaborative music reviews publication on the Internet. Each issue consists of reviews, interviews, tour dates and more music information. Direct e-mail subscriptions are available from consumable-request@westnet.com or our World Wide Web site at http://www.westnet.com/consumable - -- Corporate parents corporate town, I know every TV set that has them lit. They preach that I should save the world They pray that I won't do a better job of it, Pray that I won't do a better job, So tonight I turned your station on, Just so I'd be understood, Instead another voice said I was just too late and just no good. -Dar Williams, _Are You Out There_ - --------------67286D7AB7C4084AD88A3DBA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Terry Auspitz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Terry Auspitz n: Auspitz;Terry email;internet: tma2@erols.com tel;home: (215) 328-9986 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard - --------------67286D7AB7C4084AD88A3DBA-- - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 16:45:47 -0400 From: Terry Auspitz Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------876A6D75F60E69F273F3D390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HunterXTC@aol.com wrote: > wow.. jen trynin is opening for paula in florida??!!! lucky you! there was > always this song that stuck in my head from a few years back called better > than nothing, and it wasnt until this year that i found out that jen trynin > sang it (back then she was known as jennifer trynin). she plays guitar and > kinda reminds me of a grittier version of aimee mann. she, like paula and > aimee have that boston connection going on. and she must be a friend of jay > bellerose's cause on the first cd (cocamamie) she thanks him in the credits > :).... she ought to be an energetic opening act!!! > > i know she has a new cd out, but i havent heard anything off it yet... > > spanish > I saw a review of Jen Trynin in alt.music.alternative.female yesterday night. I'll see if I can find it and post it here, > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com - -- Corporate parents corporate town, I know every TV set that has them lit. They preach that I should save the world They pray that I won't do a better job of it, Pray that I won't do a better job, So tonight I turned your station on, Just so I'd be understood, Instead another voice said I was just too late and just no good. -Dar Williams, _Are You Out There_ - --------------876A6D75F60E69F273F3D390 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Terry Auspitz Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Terry Auspitz n: Auspitz;Terry email;internet: tma2@erols.com tel;home: (215) 328-9986 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard - --------------876A6D75F60E69F273F3D390-- - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:01:12 -0500 From: Sharley Hillgardner Subject: RE: (harbinger) Paula Moments Thanks for sharing Steve!! Definately was a warm fuzzy! ~Sharley > ---------- > From: sstewart@NTCGEN01HE.ntc.nokia.com > Sent: Friday, October 3, 1997 1:18 PM > To: harbinger@smoe.org > Subject: (harbinger) Paula Moments > > > My Paula moments happened when I was in the US. She unfortunately > didn't > pass through Helsinki. :( I was lucky enough to see her three times > in the > states though! > > The first time I saw Paula live was at the Starlight Bowl in L.A. with > Sarah > and Suzanne Vega. About three months before, a friend sent me a live > complilation album from a radio station in LA which had an acoustic > guitar > version of Ordinary. I was floored by her songwriting skills and > voice. So > I bought Harbinger. I was expecting to only like one or two songs on > the > album and was surprised that the whole album was great. > I looked for info on the web and B Titus' web site told me she was > playing > in LA. Tickets hadn't been announced yet, so my friend in L.A. picked > up > third row off center tickets. > > Again, I was expecting a nice little singer-songwriter show from her. > Wrong. She came out swinging and knocked me out. This was before > THIS > FIRE had come out, so hearing her sing songs like Tiger, Mississippi, > and > Throwing Stones without having heard them before were revelations. > (She was > REALLY right on that night, too.) I was also amazed at how the songs > from > Harbinger that I thought were perfect with the full band, backup > vocals and > production were often even better with just a piano, voice, and > drums. It > really proved that the power was in the songs and the voice, not the > production. And when I heard Jolene for the first time with the > grrrrs and > grunts...wow. (I finally heard a version of Jolene in Finnish the > other > day. I laughed.) > > Anyway, she came out backstage during Suzanne Vega's set and I got to > chat > with her for a bit and gave her my demo tape. (I know. Tacky. > Tacky. > Tacky. I thought she wouldn't listen to it, but wanted to try to > share back > a little of myself like she had unwittingly shared with me since in > that > short time of getting Harbinger, her writing style affected mine. > "Walking > with the Spirits" was a song I wrote after being taken with "Ordinary" > > "Happy Home" and "Bethlehem"...the style of telling a story more than > writing a pop song. My song got regional airplay before my band broke > up > and I moved back to Finland. Hopefully, if all goes well with my > record > company, you may hear that song in late 98... :) Enough shameless > self > promotion...back to Paula) > > I was in Salt Lake City at the time and caught her show there. I > told the > manager to just tell Paula that Steve from "Shoot the Mime" said "hi." > She > actually remembered my tape, and had my sister and I come back to take > a > couple of pictures with her and Jay. Both she and Jay were friendly, > open, > nice, etc etc. No attitudes. Just wonderful. I cannot say enough > good > about her and Jay! > > The last time I saw Paula was at Lilith Fair in Mountain View. I did > not > even try to say hi since I didn't want her to think I was stalking her > or > something. The show was amazing as always, but unfortunately too > short. > > It reminds me of a story Harrison Ford told. (I will summarize) He > was > being interviewed in a restaurant and an older woman came up and said, > > "Hello. I wanted to say how much I enjoy your movies. I am very > sorry to > bother you, but I wanted you to know that you are a great actor." He > talked > with her for a few minutes, signed an autograph and she left. Later, > the > interviewer asked, "Doesn't that bother you?" Harrison Ford said, > "That > woman had a lot of courage." The interviewer didn't understand. Ford > > continued, "She had faith that the nice man from the movies was nice > in real > life. I have unfortunately found that is often not true. Yes, it is > hard > sometimes, but I feel it is my duty to be nice to my fans since > technically, > they are the ones who allow me to do this work that I love." > > At least to me, Paula and Jay (and I have seen the same from Phil on > this > list) aren't pulling any rock star attitudes. They seem to love doing > what > they do and take the time to let the fans show their appreciation. > > I know that her kindness as well as her music has really made me tell > as > many people as I can to buy her albums and go to her concerts. > > Sorry for the length of this. Unfortunately, it's easy for me to get > excited about Paula topics. > > Thanks for your patience > > Steve > Helsinki, Finland > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe harbinger > > Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: > http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html > For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com > - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:06:14 -0400 From: "Piglet" Subject: Re: (harbinger) Re: Paula in Florida I'll be attending the House OBlues Florida Paula concert.. This will be 2nd time this year...First was in Phila. where I was fortunate to meet and chat with Paula! For those of you Looking to meet and greet with Paula I wish you luck! If not, you'll still have one of the best live shows around!! Enjoy! Piglet - ------------------------------ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe harbinger Digest, further unsub and problems FAQ at: http://www.netaxs.com/~jgreshes/lists/harbinger.html For This Fire kinda-lyrics write Riphug@aol.com ------------------------------ End of harbinger-digest V2 #88 ******************************